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Authorities Bust $10 Million Marijuana Grow

By SmokeTwibz, Jul 28, 2012 | Updated: Oct 10, 2012 | | |
  1. SmokeTwibz

    A multi-agency raid uncovered a $10 million marijuana grow operation Thursday in Topanga State Park, but no arrests were made.

    Eight California State Park peace officers, four National Park Service rangers, two Mountain Recreation and Conservation Authority rangers, six LA County Sheriff's Department deputies and a helicopter were involved in the operation, according to Clark Blanchard of California State Parks.

    The officers found 2,101 marijuana plants weighing about 850 pounds on six plots, Blanchard said.

    A camp with three separate sleeping quarters, empty boxes of 9mm ammunition and .357 ammunition were also found, he said.

    More than 1,000 pounds of trash was removed including six car batteries, several propane tanks, fertilizers, pesticides, tubing and five empty gallon buckets of a rodenticide called "Ramik Green," a commercial grade rat poison, according to Blanchard.

    "This marijuana growing operation was located in the same general area a grow we eradicated in June, 2012 containing 34,000 marijuana plants, and a grow we eradicated in March containing 8,000 marijuana plants," Blanchard said.

    By Jessica E. Davis
    July 27, 2012

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  1. Alfa
    Hahahahaha. 10 million dollars. I think the National Park Service rangers need to have their head checked if they truly believe that 2.100 plants equal 10 million dollars. By way of comparison, to grow 2100 plants indoors one needs 84 square meters. Which would be a normal size grow yielding 30 kg per cycle. Outdoors, the yield goes up, but there is only one yield. No cycles.
    This amount is not about tens of million, not even about millions, but about hundreds of thousands.
  2. CaptainTripps
    The problem with these law enforcement estimates of the value of marijuana is that they value it under the "best" possible conditions, rather than to look realistically at the actual situation. This is especially true when it is growing marijuana that is being estimated. Of course they do this for political reasons. Here are some examples.

    1. They always assume that the it is top notch quality when estimating the price. What would clearly be more accurate would be to assume that the quality is at the median average. Also, pot grown outdoors is usually not as good as indoor pot. This also is not normally taken into consideration.

    2. They base the price on the street price for vary small amounts of pot and multiply by the amount seized. So they take the price that an undercover narc would be willing to pay for 1/2 gram, figure out how many half grams were seized and that is the value of the drugs. The problem with this is street price is often much higher than even the normal retail price, let alone the wholesale value. It would be like figuring the price of a pint of whiskey, by buying a shot of top grade 25 year old Scotch in a classy restaurant and then multiplying by the number of shots in a pint.

    3. With plants they look at the largest plants that they have found. Under the right conditions, with the right type of plant, with careful hands on tending a single plant grown outdoors can yield a very significant amount of bud. In this case, if my math is correct they are estimating about 2.5 pounds per plant. While this is possible, it is clearly the exception rather than the rule. Especially when many plants are being grown and not given individual attention. Also in guerrilla grow operations plants are kept somewhat small to avoid detection. Also those high yields are normally found with sativa which normally is not as strong as indica, and hence does not command the same price.

    4. Sometimes the weight is determined by cutting the stalk at ground level and then weighing the entire plant while still wet. This ignores the fact that for practical purposes only the buds are sold, the stems and leaves are largely discarded. Also dry bud usually wieghs less than 1/4th that of wet bud.

    That being said I have noticed in recent years for law enforcement estimates to be more reasonable than they used to be. At least that is true where I live. But where I live the public is pretty aware of what pot is worth and ridiculous price estimates just make the police look bad. If they exaggerate about the value of drugs seized, maybe they are lying about the dangers as well. I must agree with Alfa, that in this case the estimate of value is laughable. In fact it is almost like someone just put the decimal point in the wrong place.

    Where I would take issue with Alfa is in his example of placing a value on the pot. First, you can not really compare the yield of outdoor crops with that of indoor crops. Of course he acknowledged that outdoor yields are larger, but the difference can be huge. An indoor plant where the grower is using "sea of green" might yield as little as 10 grams per plant(or less), where a carefully cultivated sativa plant in Northern California might yield a 1000 grams per plant (or more). Even with indoor crops the number of plants is not all that definitive when estimating yields. A much better indicator of yield is the amount of light being used. Because the number of plants in the US is often used in determining sentencing (100 plants, mandatory 5 years federal time), many growers have tried to keep their numbers down. Many growers who used to grow 16 plants under a light, have found that they can get almost the same yield with 9 plants in larger containers and taking maybe a little extra time. This is even a bigger issue here in Washington State, where those with medical authorizations can "legally" grow up to 15 plants. The trend here in the US over the last few years is has been to grow fewer, but larger plants.
  3. SmokeTwibz
    I totally agree. Their street value estimates are always blown way out of proportion, especially this one.
  4. makin
    Hi. Capt great info as usual

    this from the original article....

    This time they got 2100 plants.........

    Is it me or are they just busting the same place over and over. And for this they need a ton of cops and a helicopter.

    I can't believe how stupid the cops believe the public is. How long can you over estimate everything, lie about anything you can, and be as lazy as the proverbial lazy dog and expect to keep getting paid.

    For ever I guess.

    Maybe we are stupid
  5. storkfmny
    They probably plant it themselves and then have a hayday busting the same field of their own shit, costing the taxpayers loads.
  6. SmokeTwibz
    It also makes it looks like they are doing their job, which in turn, creates the illusion that the war on drugs is worth fighting and that they are making "real" progress. Anyone who has lifted the veil of ignorance, that has been systematically forced on most of us, can see that the war on drugs is completely absurd.
  7. Ontario
    Lmao, I was thinking the exact same thing. They always inflate drug prices when the seize though.
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