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Bath Salts Seem Like the Least Fun Drug in the World (ed. MDPV to be specific)

By Potter, Jun 3, 2012 | | |
  1. Potter
    In the past 18 months, the designer drug known colloquially as "bath salts" has been touted in the media as the latest threat to melt a generation of teenagers' minds. The mass-marketed fear comes complete with anecdotal horror stories of people's behavior under the drug's influence, each more disturbing than the last, and the hysteria reached its crescendo this week when bath salts were blamed for a Miami man's turn as a face-eating cannibal. But is this drug really as scary as it's being reported, or are we just in the midst of yet another societal panic, fueled by sensationalized accounts of a substance about which we still know very little? To find out, we found several people who have ingested bath salts and were willing to share their stories.

    "Bath salts" (known alternately as "plant food" or "meow meow") are sold in powder form that can be eaten, snorted, smoked, or injected. The street names don't describe one specific drug, but rather could refer to either mephedrone (a synthetic stimulant) or methylenedioxypyrovalerone (known as MDPV, a stimulant and psychoactive drug). Each of these purports to produce effects similar to the euphoria of MDMA (Ecstasy) and the alertness of cocaine or amphetamines. They are not hallucinogens. Although the drugs were first developed in 1929 and 1969 respectively, they didn't become popular for recreational use until around 2004, and didn't come to mainstream attention until 2011, so little is known about long-term use. However, a recent study published in the journal Neuropsychopharmacology found that the designer drugs have a similar affect on the brain as Ecstasy, but without the link to long-term depletion of serotonin that's associated with MDMA. So if scientific studies show that bath salts are less harmful to the brain than MDMA, why are people seemingly flipping the fuck out?

    In the past year, the media has reported on several incidences of bizarre, violent, and disturbing behavior, attributing these psychotic episodes to bath salts. (A cross-dressing goat killer, a priest-stabber, a man who believed he was being chased by electricity, a festive trespasser, a man who believed his 5-year-old was "possessed," etc.) Most recently—and most shockingly—is the story of Miami man Rudy Eugene who stripped naked in public and then attacked a homeless man, eating part of his face. It has been widely reported that Eugene was high on bath salts. But that's just a theory by law enforcement officials.

    The greatest allure of bath salts was simply the ease with which one could buy them — they were legal, sold in head shops and gas stations with the disclaimer that they were "not for human consumption." But Florida, where the attack occurred, banned the drug in early 2011, and the DEA temporarily banned the drug nationwide in October 2011, pending further study. If Eugene had been taking bath salts, it's possible that he bought the drug online. Either way, it will take weeks before Eugene's toxicology reports confirm what, if anything, was in his system, but at this point the results don't really matter: People are terrified that bath salts will ruin our world by turning half of us into violent monsters and the other half into their victims.

    There are elements of this hysteria over bath salts that are similar to the horror stories and myths that were used as scare tactics against LSD, and marijuana before that. Sure, every drug has its danger, but if people are really choosing to do bath salts, then it must also have some sort of benefit, like it's fun or something. Right?

    Lex Pelger, a scientist and writer who is working on a book about "the history of psychoactive compounds" has experimented with bath salts. He says that he uses stimulants to help him write and that "they're tools like every other material, both dangerous and helpful." According to Pelger, he's never had any "visuals" or hallucinations while on the drug and believes that some of the reports in the news are scare tactics that aren't truly representative of the typical experience.

    "For every story of someone going crazy, there are thousands of [people] who just had fun for a few hours on the weekend and maybe got laid," he said, pointing to studies that show that alcohol is still the most harmful drug around.

    So what is making people act so bizarrely on the drug? Pelger suggests sleep deprivation—a side effect of taking too much of the drug—is what contributes to some of the psychosis that is being reported. Or it could be an undiagnosed psychological disorder. An episode of the show Intervention showed a man's bizarre behavior (and "demon hunting") while using bath salts, but it was later revealed that he suffered from schizophrenia.

    Of the several people — who asked to remain anonymous — we spoke to who had tried bath salts, we learned that there are some common themes:

    * Almost everyone used the drug as a concentration or study aid.
    * The most attractive aspect was its cheapness and availability.
    * It wasn't that strong.

    That last point is where some people get in trouble. Because the drug has been described as "MDMA-lite," people feel mild waves of euphoria after taking the drug. Because it's so new and nobody is quite sure of the proper dosage (and because you get so much for your money), people tend to take more than they should, and re-dose shortly after the initial ingestion, thinking they will increase the effects. Instead, they find themselves regretting their decision. One woman told us of her week-long experiment with MDPV:

    I think the majority of bad effects and incidents…are caused by unmitigated redosing and sleep deprivation. If these drugs were administered once, and not touched again until they were completely removed from the body there would not be these crazy problems, but that rarely happens.

    Erowid, a site that documents "the complex relationship between humans & psychoactives" has a number of user-submitted experiences on MDPV—sharing the amount they've ingested and the time that has lapsed—that are pretty illuminating. Some are positive, some are negative. The negative experiences, however, all involve a considerable amount of re-dosing and lack of sleep. Essentially, these are binges that go on for at least three days, which is when the hallucinations begin to kick in for some people:
    Another man documented the three-day binge he experienced with his friend and his friend's girlfriend, which started out rather pleasant:

    But then they decided to re-dose and re-dose again and then smoke the rest of it. The girlfriend had a psychotic meltdown, while the other two just felt horrible:

    Those who don't re-dose, however, still felt the effects of a comedown that wasn't worth the initial high:
    The overall verdict? Bath salts will most likely not put you on a violent cannibal rampage. In most instances people will just get a decent study aid, a little bit of energy and some mild euphoria followed by a headache. The potential is there for paranoid delusions for those who compulsively abuse the drug. The biggest danger, perhaps, is that the drug's euphoric properties are weak enough to trick people into doing more, and then doing more, and then doing more, and then demon hunting. But for the most part, in those worst case scenarios, people on bath salts are literally afraid of their own shadows, and being so preoccupied with being chased by monsters, it's not that likely that they'll become one.

    Tracie Egan Morrissey
    for Jezebel
    Link to source

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  1. GoGoDevilBunny
    bath salts are no joke, they are simply NOT GOOD AT ALL, if you want a raging addiction to something that will ruin your life then go ahead and use them. Lost many friends to that dumb shit, and by lost I mean they are mentally not the same anymore.
  2. subbbhuman
    yeah someone in my town reportedly died from bath salts. had an existing heart condition or something , was out in the sun working
  3. FunkyNotAJunky
    I tried bath salts once about a year ago.

    all i experienced was an inability to sleep for over 24 hours.

    being awake for a long time is only fun if you are high.

    that day / night / day SUCKED.

    and i decided then that bath salts were not only a huge rip-off and a huge bummer, but also one of the worst ideas i ever had.
  4. Lelouch
    Interesting how the media fails to report that it's actually not a rare drug to be used, they make it seem as though that cannibal guy was the only guy who ever used it and that the psychosis that he went through is the common result of using the drug.
  5. Synesthesiac
    Only to excessive levels.

    I've used MDPV many a time (probably in doses way too high and for too long, in retrospect) and weirdly I had no urge to go and cut someone up, not even psychosis. But the major difference being I did not buy it as a bath salt. I actually knew what I was getting was MDPV, had an assay on the purity and NMR data.
  6. profesor
    More accurate and more insightful than most 'bath salt' articles, it is still full of inaccuracies. Bath salts may contain other cathinones (substituted amphetimines) and sometimes other ingredients including caffeine and lidocaine (numbs nasal passages for easier insuffulation) They tend to be more pure than street drugs however, probably to maximize addiction potential along with lack of middlemen cutting the product. Abusing large amounts of adderall or meth will result in the same kind of psychosis, and Miami law enforcement should have said that these other drugs are just as likely the trigger for the "Miami cannibal." It is very sad that journalists don't make the extra effort to investigate the facts. Also there's no mention that Bupropion, sold under the names Wellbutrin (as an antidepressant) and Zyban (an aid to quit smoking) are in the same family. There may be others with therapeutic potential, but authorities seem to be determined to put all these chemicals into Schedule I, which will effectively kill any research.
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