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{Disturbing} The Woman Who Drilled a Hole in Her Head to Open Up Her Mind

By Basoodler, Sep 30, 2013 | | |
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    There are plenty of ways to achieve a higher state of consciousness. Most of them involve ingesting some kind of psychoactive substance, or getting in a white tank filled with water, or sitting in front of a flashing light while listening to trance music. But as far as I know, only one requires you to drill a hole into your forehead.

    Trepanation, a procedure where a small hole is drilled into the skull and left to heal naturally, can reportedly produce a prolonged positive effect on the trepanned individual's mood and overall state of well-being. There's little hard scientific evidence that doing this has any tangible benefits, but people have been doing it for tens of thousands of years, so there has to be a reason they keep coming back to the tried and true method of inserting pieces of metal into the front of their skulls.

    Amanda Feilding is the director of the Beckley Foundation, an organization that for over a decade has been carrying out research into consciousness. Her work spans the entire mind-altering spectrum, from cannabis and LSD to Buddhist meditation, and she's been looking into the physiological effects of trepanation for a long time. In the early 1970s, Amanda trepanned herself when she couldn't find a doctor to do it for her, and has since become somewhat of an authority on the practice.

    I visited Amanda's home on the outskirts of Oxford, England, to talk about trepanation and how she carried out the operation on herself.


    VICE: So Amanda, can you give me a short history of trepanation?

    Amanda Feilding: Trepanation is the oldest surgical operation in the world, dating back to at least 10,000 BC, and has been carried out by independent civilizations in nearly every continent on the planet. From South America to Neolithic Europe, the practice has a rich and diverse history. Shiva, the Hindu god of altered consciousness, was trepanned; it was done by monks in Tibet and up to the modern day in Africa.

    What do you mean by "modern day"?

    The 20th century. I knew someone from Nigeria in the 60s who said that, when he was 13, the "hip" boys of the village went out with the shaman and got trepanned.

    Did it have a legitimate medicinal purpose?

    Absolutely. These civilizations couldn’t hypothesize scientifically on the physiology behind trepanation, so they gave it their own esoteric explanation. In other places it was described as "letting light in" or "letting devils out." It has been successfully used to treat chronic headaches, epilepsy, and migraines, and it was surprisingly common until the First World War, when doctors started doing lobotomies—that’s when it was suddenly seen as a primitive practice. My father’s encyclopedia from 1912 says that trepanation was being increasingly used in the treatment of mental disorders. In fact, it's still regularly used today to enter the brain for operations, but the hole is often filled.

    Did it have a religious significance?

    For some, trepanation was a ritualistic practice in which the shamans, the kings, and the priests were trepanned. I'd suggest this was because, particularly in South American societies, these were the ones taking psychoactive drugs. The lifting of the baseline brought about by trepanation gave them less of a distance to come down from after the drugs wore off.

    You trepanned yourself. What attracted you to it?

    In the 60s I was doing a lot of work on comparative religions and mysticism, and I heard of a Dutch scientist who had trepanned himself and had a theory of the underlying physiological changes brought about by it. I didn’t know him before he was trepanned, which meant I didn’t know what changes had come about. Even though I was interested in trepanation, I wasn’t particularly concerned with having it done myself.

    But I had another friend who did it and I noticed a definite change in him that was very subtle—a mellowing, a lessening of the neurotic behavior that we all have. I knew him exceptionally well and did notice a difference. Later, another friend had it done who had chronic headaches that caused him to lose a day or two a week, but he hasn’t had those headaches for the last 30 years [since he was trepanned]. I started to seek out a doctor who would trepan me, including a doctor to the royal family who was very interested. In fact, he had a hole in his head from an accident as a child. After four years of unsuccessful searching, I decided to do it myself.

    What sort of preparations did you make?

    I was obviously very cautious and prepared myself very carefully. I used an electrical drill with a flat bottom and a foot pedal, and tested the drill head on the membranes of my hand to see if it would damage the skin. The whole thing was carefully prepared, but more than anything I prepared myself psychologically. It’s the last thing you want to do.

    Yeah, drilling a hole in your head kind of goes against every instinct. Then I thought I’d make a film about it, being an artist. It was useful making the film, because it felt like I was separating myself from the situation and taking a step away.

    So you’ve got the physical anesthetic, then the mental anesthetic of treating it as a piece of artwork.

    Yeah, it was effective. After I'd performed the procedure, I wrapped up my head with a scarf, had a steak to replace iron from the lost blood, and went to a party. It doesn’t set you back at all, it doesn’t incapacitate you. It’s just a half-hour operation. But in no way am I advocating the idea of self-trepanation; it should always be carried out by members of the medical profession.

    How did you feel after the procedure?

    I described it at the time as feeling like the tide coming in: there was a feeling of rising, slowly and gently, to levels that felt good, very subtle. One very clear thing I noticed was the change in the dream pattern: my dreams became much less anxious—that was quite noticeable. Could all of that be described as a placebo? There is, of course, that possibility, and I am very conscious of that. I have to say I noticed enough of a change to keep me interested, and noticed it in the people who I knew well who also got trepanned. I noticed a fundamental change in all of them.

    So what’s the main premise behind trepanation?

    When a baby is born, the top of the skull is very soft and flexible. First, the fontanelle [the soft area on the top of the skull] closes, then the skull bones close, which inhibits the full pulsation of the heartbeat, so it is denied its full expression in the brain, so to speak. That loss of "pulse pressure" results in a change of ratio between the two fluids in the brain: blood and cerebral spinal fluid. It is blood that feeds the brain cells with what they need, such as glucose and oxygen. The cerebral spinal fluid removes some of the toxic molecules.

    Trepanation works by restoring the full pulse pressure of the heartbeat. Then the capillaries slightly blow up and squeeze out an equal amount of the cerebral spinal fluid. When the circulation becomes sluggish [when not enough cerebral spinal fluid is being pumped into the brain], stagnant pools can build up and this can contribute to the onset of diseases such as dementia and Alzheimer’s.

    After setting up the Beckley Foundation, you started to work on research into the effects and possible benefits of trepanation. What things did you investigate?

    The research that I’ve been doing with the Russian scientist professor [Yuri] Moskalenko involved observing patients who were being trepanned for other operations and what happened when the bone was removed and not replaced. It did provide more blood to the brain and, with those subjects who had their hole filled, [blood flow] then decreased. It's clear that making the hole increases the cerebral circulation and that closing it diminishes it. But research with a healthy population is needed.

    The second piece of research we did was with people with varying stages of Alzheimer’s. It showed that these people's cerebral spinal fluid had much lower mobility than someone who had a "healthy" cerebral circulation. It wasn’t a lack of blood in the brain of these patients that was the problem, it was a lack of washing out of the toxic molecules by cerebral spinal fluid. This research contributed to the development of a device that can measure these things, possibly acting as an early warning signal for brain diseases.

    Whether trepanation can act as a preventive measure to combat these diseases, and whether it has other effects, is research that I would love to conduct in the future. This is still a hypothesis, one which isn't provable at the moment because I don’t think we have the instrumentation to fully investigate it yet. But it seems that this is what trepanation has historically been used for, even if the people doing it at the time didn’t understand the reasoning behind it. The research we did on trepanation, which was only done on about 15 people, is not nearly enough to make any concrete scientific claims. We need more research with more people.

    Would you be doing the research even if you weren’t trepanned?

    Yes, I think so. But I suppose that my personal experience of getting trepanned—which I, of course, would not put total faith in—gave me the feeling that it is worthy of research.

    How are you going about doing that research?

    It’s difficult: although it’s not illegal to trepan, it’s not exactly legal, either. It’s a catch-22. You can’t get the research authorized because there’s not enough evidence to support it, but you can’t get the evidence without research. I think it's strange that people can get sex changes but not trepanation—a simple operation. We should research this simple operation that could increase consciousness.


    Do you see it becoming legal in the future?

    I definitely do. I see it particularly in countries that are more familiar with the idea of consciousness, like Brazil or India.

    Didn't you try to make trepanation available on the UK's National Health Service?

    I stood for Parliament in Chelsea on the platform "Trepanation for the National Health." I didn’t intend to get voted in; it was more of an art project. My intention was to try to get the medical profession to agree that this is an interesting subject and is worthy of research.

    Over the past 40 years I’ve got used to fighting the prejudice around trepanation, and I’ve never really understood the taboo around it. I feel society is not doing itself any favors by making this a taboo, and I think the best thing that we can do is gain as much knowledge as we can about altered states of consciousness and how we can apply them for the good of mankind. In traditional societies, which are much closer to consciousness, they recognize the shamanic process, the process of changing consciousness, whether that’s fasting or dancing or the ingestion of psychoactive substances. They recognize that it’s a very important part of society and deciding which way to go with decisions.

    9/1/13
    http://m.vice.com/read/drilling-a-hole-in-your-head-for-a-higher-state-of-consciousness

Comments

  1. SpatialReason
    This sounds like a morbid infection waiting to happen. Good luck to this individual in their quest to stave off bacteria from entering that hole.
  2. Thirst4knowledge
    Spatial, I was thinking the very same thing. All she did was wrap a scarf around her head afterwards- a scarf, not even a clean dressing? Yikes.
    It also makes me think of the saying"I need this like I need a hole in the head."
  3. CannabisBenzoBuddie
    Oh yeah i can see kids doing this already :\
  4. Potter
    What the hell?
  5. Basoodler
    I feel you potter!

    I believe mushrooms were legal at the time of her "procedure"..

    It is also odd that she would carry this out on herself, most mad scientists try crazy shit out on rats or other humans first

    Is the Beckly foundation into things like this? (she IS the director)

    Nevermimd there is a section on this on the beckley foundation drugs-forums wiki
  6. Beenthere2Hippie
    Trepanation (trepan" from the Greek trypanon, meaning “a borer”) has been practiced by humans for over 10,000 years and involves boring a hole(s) in one’s skull. In ancient times it was thought that trepanning helped to remove evil spirits from the mind, by giving them a way to depart via the skull opening(s).

    Here's the link on our site to a video called "Hole in the Head." It's a bit graphic but for those interested in trepanation, take a look-see.

    https://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=171&linkid=12912

    We also have a full accounting of Amanda Feilding and her Beckley Foundation (here in Wiki), which actually does do quite a lot of good harm reduction and drug education work around the world, although Amanda herself is a bit...well...out there.

    *There's also a video on utube about the Beatles (who knew Amanda Feilding at the time of her self-trepanation) wanting to follow in her trepannning footsteps. They never did, though. :thumbsdown:
  7. Sam Spade
    I'm glad everyone else is responding to this with as much skepticism as I did. I thought I might be missing something.
  8. kmak
    That picture was very disturbing, I felt sick for a minute after seeing it.
  9. AKA_freckles
    I agree KMAK. that pic is a bit gratuitous.
  10. Phungushead
    Like a Hole in the Head

    [IMGL="white"]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35261&stc=1&d=1381506085[/IMGL] On a Sunday afternoon in December 1970, Aman*da Feilding drilled a hole in her head. "There was quite a lot of blood," she warns me when I *visit her for lunch at Beckley Park—Feilding’s moated Tudor mansion just outside Oxford—and* sit down to wat*ch the short film she made of her DIY surgery. "It’s not a difficult operation," she adds. Her pet *African grey parrot nibbles her ear. "Drilling a hole in one’s head is really a nerve battle, doing something which obviously e*very instinct in your body is against. In a sense it’s quite satisfying that one can overcome one’s nerves to do it."
    *
    The film, titled Heartbeat in the Brain, shows her shaving her hairline, putting on a floral shower cap to keep back her remaining locks, fashioning a mask out of sunglasses and medical tape, injecting herself with a local anesthetic, and peeling back a patch of skin with a scalpel. With a look of determined, almost trance-like concentration, Feilding then holds a dentist’s drill to her head and, pressing the foot pedal that operates it, begins to push its grinding teeth into the frontal bone.

    Feilding was a twenty-seven-year-old art student at the time, and says that she was able to dissociate herself somewhat from the gory procedure by treating her head as if it were a piece of sculpture. She had arranged her tools in a neat row on a table draped in a white sheet. "I’m quite cautious and I’d prepared myself very carefully," she explains, "I had an extra drill in case the other one broke down, which indeed it did. I’d gone into every detail."

    When she finally managed to bore through to the dura mater, Feilding grinned triumphantly as a geyser of blood gurgled from the half-centimeter-wide opening and poured down her face, spotting the white tunic she was wearing with carnation-sized stains. A reviewer who saw Feilding’s film in 1978, when she showed it at the Suydam Gallery in New York, reported that at the climax of the operation several members of the audience fainted, "dropping off their seats one by one like ripe plums."

    The film ends with footage of Feilding bandaging her head and mopping up the blood from her face with water and cotton wool. She changes out of her bloody tunic into a colorful Moroccan kaftan and wraps a shimmering gold turban around her head to disguise the bandages. Looking glamorous, bohemian, and elated, she smiles goodbye to the camera and heads off to a fancy-dress party.

    ** * *

    Trepanation (from the Greek word trypanon, meaning "to bore"), the creation of a hole in the skull, is the oldest known surgical procedure. Perforated crania up to 8,000 years old have been found in prehistoric sites all over the world. Some of th*e holes, made by scraping away the bone with a flint or obsidian knife until a piece could be prised out, are the size of a man’s palm; other skulls have been pierced several times like a sieve. The majority of these apertures have soft edges, indicating that they had begun to heal and that there was a high post-operative survival rate.

    Archaeologists have speculated that the operation was performed as a religious rite, an initiation into the priestly caste, or as a treatment for demonic possession—symptoms we might now diagnose as epilepsy, psychosis, or migraine. A hole in the head served as a mouthpiece to the gods, it was thought, or as a window that would allow bad spirits to escape.

    Hippocrates and Galen gave detailed and careful instructions as to how to best perform the operation, which was used widely by doctors in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries as a treatment for insanity, melancholia, and headaches, and remained common right up to World War One; a variety of gruesome-looking devices evolved as surgeons sought to perfect a drilling tool.

    However, in the mid-1930s, when the Portugese neurologist Egas Moniz pioneered lobotomy—a procedure by which a deeper hole was drilled in the skull so that the prefrontal cortex of the brain could be mutilated using an instrument that resembled an apple corer—trepanation fell out of fashion and was relegated to the realm of superstition. The theory behind lobotomy was that you could destroy the parts of the brain that caused psychotic delusions, and for his work Moniz won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 1949, by which time trepanation had become an almost extinct practice. In the course of the following decade, psychoactive drugs in turn began to supplant the even more brutal psychosurgery that had replaced it.

    Feilding wasn’t interested in performing the operation as an extreme form of body art, but because she believed it would have a life-changing effect on her. She hoped that a hole in her head would increase what she terms "cranial compliance," that alleviating the pressure in her skull would allow the heart to pump more blood to her brain, thereby giving her a new feeling of buoyancy. "If you don’t have that expansibility," she says of the prison of inflexible bone that most of us have for skulls, "then the heartbeat pushes against the brain cells, which isn’t very good."

    Feilding tells me that she spent four years in the late 1960s trying to persuade a surgeon to trepan her. They all refused, reluctant to do such a procedure for its own sake without an indication. "If God had wanted us to have a hole in our heads," they told her, "He would have given us one." So she decided to do the operation herself: "Not that I’m in favor of self-trepanation," she adds, "because I think it’s a ridiculous hoop for an untrained layperson to have to dive through, and quite dangerous, which is why I’ve only ever shown my film to small invited audiences. But at that point, it was the only way to see if trepanation actually makes a difference or not."

    Although Feilding entertains all manner of ambiguity in relation to her operation, she feels it did have a beneficial effect. "To my subjective experience I thought at the time that it was rather like the tide coming in," she explains, "I felt a certain peace, it felt like a return, like I was rising in myself to a more natural level. But obviously one can say that that was a placebo, one can never tell with such a subtle feeling."

    Feilding first encountered the idea of trepanation at the age of twenty-three, when she met an eccentric and handsome Dutchman named Bart Huges, who was an advocate of the benefits of the procedure. She admits to having thought it "a bit freak" at first: "Bart quite changed my viewpoint," Feilding says, "opening up doors of science and biology to me. He was very charismatic, we had a great love affair, and I was curious to see if what he said was true."

    * * *

    [IMGR="white"]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35262&stc=1&d=1381506085[/IMGR] Bart Huges trepanned himself in 1965. The operation took forty-five minutes, he later reported, but it took four hours to clean the blood off the walls and ceiling. Ten days later, at a public happening in Amsterdam’s Dam Square, he removed his bandages, which consisted of thirty-two meters of gauze that he’d painted with the words "HA HA HA HA" in psychedelic colors. When he visited a local hospital to obtain X-ray proof of his act, he was interrogated by psychiatrists, who suspected he was schizophrenic. He was held against his will whilst doctors performed three weeks’ worth of psychological tests. They were forced to release him when these tests indicated he was completely sane.

    Huges, who had been a medical student but never graduated, was one of the first promoters in Europe of the consciousness-expanding qualities of LSD. He believed that when mankind evolved to walk upright, our brains drained of the blood with which they had previously been saturated. The limited blood supply was now concentrated in the parts of the cerebral cortex that developed language and reason, but there was, he argued, an overall dulling of consciousness. "Gravity," he liked to quip, "brings you down." He used to stand on his head in an attempt to defeat it.

    Huges came to believe that trepanation, by creating an opening akin to a baby’s fontanelle, would allow the blood to freely pulse around the brain with every heartbeat, thereby creating a permanent high. In an eight-foot scroll articulating his ideas, Huges declared that those with holes in their skulls would be representatives of the new species Homo sapiens correctus.

    Huges’s foremost disciple was a friend of Amanda Feilding named Joseph Mellen. Mellen, who had been educated at Eton and Oxford before he "tuned in and dropped out," met Huges in the hedonistic party scene of 1960s Ibiza, where Huges introduced him to LSD. He went on to describe himself as "a sort of John the Baptist" and introduced Huges to Feilding in London in 1966. That summer Feilding helped Mellen drill a hole in his head, which served as a dress rehearsal of sorts for her own operation.

    Huges had lent Mellen the money to buy an antique hand trepan, even though he had used an electric drill on himself, in the hope that Mellen would be able to prove that anyone, even those who lived in the Third World without access to electricity, would be able to enjoy the advantages of expanded consciousness. However, the centerpiece of the drill was so blunt that Mellen struggled for two hours to get it into the bone, a failure that was not perhaps helped by the fact that he’d steeled his nerves for the operation with LSD. He described his efforts in his unpublished memoir, Bore Hole, as "like trying to uncork a bottle from the inside." The book reads something like an unintentional comedy of errors.

    Mellen phoned Huges, who was in Amsterdam with Feilding, and he agreed to return to England to help. However, Huges was refused entry into the country (an interview he’d done before he left London had resulted in the unhelpful headline, "This Dangerous Idiot Should be Thrown Out"), and Feilding aided Mellen in his place, using all her might to get the point of the trepan to hold so that the teeth of the drill could find a grip. Mellen, again high on acid, took over the drilling until he blacked out. Feilding phoned for an ambulance and he was rushed to hospital.

    Feilding and Mellen began seeing each other after she separated from Huges—they would go on to marry and have two children together. Yet Huges’s influence continued to dominate their lives. The following year, after Mellen had spent a week in jail for possession of cannabis, Feilding assisted him with another attempted self-trepanation. "I found the groove from the previous operation and got going," Mellen wrote in his memoir: "After some time there was an ominous-sounding shlurp and the sound of bubbling … It sounded like air bubbles running under the skull as they were pressed out." However, when he examined the trepan it held an irregular sliver of bone, and when he didn’t feel the expected difference in mood, he attributed this to his having drilled through at an angle. The hole he had managed was evidently too small.

    Three years later, Mellen armed himself with an electric drill and tried again. Once more, things did not go smoothly. This time the drill burned out and he had to bandage his head mid-operation and go downstairs to ask a handy neighbor to help him fix it. The repair took an hour.

    The next day Mellen resumed the operation, and finally achieved success:

    Steadily, almost imperceptibly, over the next four hours I felt myself get higher and higher. I got higher than I had thought possible. I felt so light and free. It is very hard to put in words the feeling of change, but I felt very relaxed, as if everything would fall into place now.

    * * *

    [IMGL="white"]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35263&stc=1&d=1381506085[/IMGL] When Feilding returned from New York a few days after Mellen’s successful trepanation, she was persuaded that he had undergone a change for the better. "The difference is very subtle," she explains. "Basically, I put it that the neurotic side of the person has a little less grip—because they’re higher, they have a little more bounce. The floor has been raised a bit, the balloon has been blown up a little bit more. It doesn’t mean it cures the neurotic bag, but I do think it lessens it slightly." Several months later, she made up her mind to trepan herself, with Mellen on hand to film it. Learning from his mistakes, she performed what she describes as "a faultless trepanation with a very neat scar."

    Feilding became a leading propagandist for the benefits of trepanation. She stood for Parliament as an independent candidate in her local constituency of Chelsea in 1979 and 1983, campaigning on the sole platform that trepanation should be freely available on the National Health Service, doubling her share of the vote from 49 to 139 in the process (one journalist at the time asked whether these were gestures of support or protest, a way of saying that the country needed Mrs. Thatcher about as much as it needed a hole in the head).

    Feilding and Mellen separated after twenty-eight years together; both of them persuaded their subsequent partners to be trepanned. In 1995, Feilding married Lord Neidpath, a former professor at Oxford who taught international relations to Bill Clinton. He found that the terrible headaches he’d suffered from all his life ceased after trepanation.

    Feilding is still a supporter of the procedure, and has started up the Beckley Foundation to commission research into the possible benefits of trepanation (the Foundation has also obtained permission to conduct the first study in thirty years of the effects of LSD on human subjects; it will test the neural changes brought about by the drug). She has funded the investigations of a scientist in St. Petersburg, Yuri Moskalenko, who is a pioneer in the field of cerebral circulation and has performed a battery of neurological tests on patients who have had their skulls opened in order to have cancerous brain tumors removed.

    Feilding believes his findings "provide incontrovertible evidence" that trepanation does bring about real neuro-physiological changes. Whether those changes are beneficial or not remains an open question. Even within the tight knit circle of Huges’s disciples, not everyone has been so convinced: Huges’s own sister reported that trepanation had no effect on her at all.

    Feilding estimates that there are perhaps several dozen people alive today who have been trepanned. I ask her whether she envisages a utopia in which, one day, we all have holes in our heads and access to a higher plane. "On the whole, people remain just as disappointing untrepanned or trepanned," Feilding laughs. "Just because someone is trepanned it doesn’t mean that you like them any more."

    In 2000, Feilding traveled to Mexico City to have a second hole drilled in her head because she felt the one she’d made in 1970 with a dentist’s drill had closed up. The surgeon, who she found after many closer to home refused, once again, to help her, performed the operation with a hand-cranked trepan. "I would choose my self-trepanation any day," Feilding says of his clumsy job, "but I felt incredibly well after having it, pleased to be me. But obviously a subjective difference is not enough to convince anyone."

    "If it is a placebo effect, I’d love to know," she says, open to doubt. "Then one can just draw a line under that subject and see it as a kind of cultural artwork. I still have a burning ambition to discover what the truth is. But from my own experience I think there is a change, otherwise I wouldn’t be bothering about it forty years later."


    Issue 28 Bones Winter 2007/08

    Christopher Turner
    Cabinet Magazine

    Images:
    Still from Feilding’s film Heartbeat in the Brain, 1970.
    Bart Huges trepanning himself, 1965. Photo Cor Jaring.
    Promotional material for Amanda Feilding’s campaign for Parliament, 1979.

    http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/28/turner.php
  11. Crystal_Queen
    Kay so she's an "artist" and "film maker".. .
    Seems like an incredibly risky way to get attention.
    Your skull holds your brain.
    The brain doesn't absorb oxygen it needs the lungs> blood> brain...
    Oxygen probably "oxidates" whatever part of the brain that is.. lol
    Leaving tone hole open? How do you shower? What if it rains? Lol brainwash
  12. Nanashi
    The hole isn't left 'open'. It is covered back up with skin.^^

    I find this very interesting. Everyone is freaking out like shes crazy. The science behind it doesn't seem too outrageous. Its not like she took off half her skull. She only drilled a small 1cm hole. I'd like to know if it would work with a smaller 1/4th cm hole.
  13. Alien Sex Fiend
    skulls weren't mean to have holes. going against the evolution to see if a hole in in your head will make you better or not... thats insane. i mean stretching your ears is one thing, they weren't meant to be like that but the worst you end up with is having ugly ears. self-medicating with drugs without a medical degree is not the smartest move, we all know that. drilling a hole in the head?
  14. mukcc
    awhhh cmonnnn I just HAD to click on this right before getting ready to goto bed... nope...not going to sleep.. going to have nightmares.... Interesting read though despite imagining what it'd be like to have a hole drilled into my head.. yup... not...sleeping...
  15. MikePatton
    This is fucking stupid... And the stupidest part of it was this statement right here: "The difference was very subtle". If the difference was admittedly very subtle, then in what way is it worth drilling a hole in your head for a bit more than placebo? Honestly I'd excpect the difference to be massive for this to even be worth considering, it's insane.
  16. corvardus
    We evolved with holes in the skull at birth which allows for the baby to be able to go down the vagina without getting the head trapped in the mothers' pelvic bones. So technically speaking we have evolved with not one, not two but SIX holes in the head (fontanelles).

    [​IMG]

    Further the brain grows faster than the surrounding bone structures in young babies so these fontanelles take their time in ossifying with the anterior fontanelle being the last to close at around 3 years old.

    Whilst as an adult I would agree with you. The only real problem with trepanning would likely be from infection from the penetration of the skin and meninges. If it was a particularly club handed individual actual real brain damage is a risk too.

    Yeah, let me scan this with my Woo'o'meter

    [​IMG]

    Just as I thought. Certain cultures that are predisposed to believing in Woo as a socially acceptable part of their society will be more susceptible in thinking that Trepanning would be a good idea without any scientific evidence.
  17. Crystal_Queen
    Interesting...the hole would fall right overtop the "frontal lobe" of the brain...
    Responsible for emotions, right and wrong.
    Damaging this section could turn you into a sociopath lol...
  18. C.D.rose
    I don't think she used the word "subtle" to mean "small". It sounds like more of a "background change" than a drastic change in your personality.

    Unlike most posters, I wouldn't dismiss this sort of thing outright just "because it's crazy". But I wonder how much of the change may be actually due to, well, having yourself drilled a hole in your head. I was insanely proud when I learned to do IM injections by myself, not just because of the technique, but also because I overcame pretty huge internal resistance. Drilling a hole in your head must be exponentially harder, so I wouldn't be surprised if that does actually have an impact on your psyche or personality.
  19. kmak
    A tiny bit off topic, but hopefully someone with a trepanation surgery done would avoid playing something like paintball. :eek:
  20. Potter
    When I was younger and my Tourette's was far worse then it is now, I seriously looked into getting a trepanation.
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