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Drunk Cop Crashes Truck Pulling DARE Trailer

  1. Phungushead
    A 38-year-old cop in Indiana, John Newcomb, was arrested Wednesday night after he side-swiped a parked car with his truck and then plowed into a tree, apparently while he was drunk.

    A woman who heard the crash and saw the immediate aftermath gave some details of the scene to local news channel WAVE 3. The best part of this otherwise average drunk driving-cop story is the trailer Newcomb was pulling :

    "It said DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) and Seymour Police Department- which made me think he was a police officer," said Mr. Robbins.

    Not only a police officer, but according to the Seymour Police Department website, he is the School Resource Officer, responsible for seven schools, acting as a mentor and providing students with a role model. It even states that he conducts lectures on narcotics and alcohol and their effects on driving.

    "He's not setting a good example for kids that see this," said Mr. Robbins.

    Jul 29, 2011 7:41 AM

    Jeff Neumann


  1. fritzthecat
    Thank god he didn't hurt or kill anyone . He'll experience things on the other side of the fence for sure . Good informative post , I'd like to follow his story .
  2. Wanderer
    Well, there really is no "best part" to any story like this, even if it happens to someone it shouldn't, but probably more "ironic part".

    It just goes to show that law enforcement are human too and are also subject to addiction and its related problems, though we probably don't see it because it needs to be covered over for the public in order for them to effective play their role in enforcement. But even our public officials and enforcement officers are not immune from the problems of humanity as a whole.

    Let's hope he is treated equally just like anyone else would in this situation, prosecuted as required by law, and is given the access to the treatment he may require. Additionally, he should not be mistreated by his employer just so he can be made an example of due to his position in law enforcement. The educational role he currently plays in expressing the dangers (though not always accurately as we know) regarding drugs and alcohol is an important job and perhaps he can bring some of his personal experience to the classroom after this incident.

    This is at the bottom of it all a human tragedy which could have happened to anyone, and just goes to show that we are all human.

    Be well...
  3. Moving Pictures
    ^No, cops should be held to a higher standard. They are tasked with and given the power to enforcing the law. How many people do you want to be he's arrested for drunk driving? Then he goes out and does it. A study I read said that people drive drunk approx. 80 times before they get their first DUI. Unless this is the most unlucky fucker in the world, I doubt this was his first time driving drunk. So a policeman, who arrests people for breaking the law goes out and does the same thing. That makes it worse, imo.

    I'm not saying he should be drawn and quartered for this, but he should at the very least be suspended without pay for a period of time while he gets treatment for his alcohol problem. He should probably be fired, really. He made a mockery of his department. Police are the last one who should be breaking the law. I'm sorry, but I hold them to a higher standard.

    Also, having an alcohol problem and driving drunk do not go hand in hand. There's no reason why anyone has to drive drunk. Some people like to do it. Some people just don't care. But excusing it with alcohol addiction isn't right. I've known plenty of alcoholic who don't drive drunk. I've also known lots of people who didn't have alcohol problems but still chose to drive drunk. Him being a cop and knowing how serious driving drunk is, I'd wager he does have a drinking problem. But that doesn't excuse what he did. Though I'm sure that's the line he is going to use to weasel his way out of any real trouble.
  4. Tillianne
    What a hypocrite. He's supposed to be setting an example for the kids. Now what will they think? "We should say no to drugs, but only when we want to, or when it's convenient to do so." Or maybe...."these rules apply to everyone but cops?"
  5. Wanderer
    Completely agree there are those in society who should be held to a higher standard. Anyone entrusted to ensure public safety, whether that's a police officer, bus driver or airline pilot.

    I did say he should be treated equally under the law just like everyone else, and be required to serve out any penalty served and if judged should get rehab treatment.

    If someone is in a position of ensuring the public safety, and their ability to perform their job hinges on not being under the influence of anything, then they should also be subject to random and regular substance screening to ensure they are not performing under the influence. If this was the case, then he might have been detected by the system sooner, and this never would have happened.

    No excuses for what he did, and he should not be let off the hook by any means. He should however, be treated fairly by his employer. Whether that means suspension without pay while in rehab, probationary period after return to work, and routine evaluation and substance screening as a follow-up.

    It just goes to show that no one is immune from the troubles of addiction, even the police.

    Be well...
  6. Terrapinzflyer
    I would rather disagree with the "higher standard" bit. We are all human, we all have our issues, and we all make mistakes. And yet society seems to love putting people on a pedestal, and sometimes it seems it's because it makes it that much more fun to tear the person down when they fall.

    Ultimately, if you really know everyones deepest secrets you realize no one is really any better, or any worse, then you are. And holding someone to a higher standard is just adding pressure to someone, who like myself and every other person I have ever met, is ultimately, deeply flawed...
  7. NeuroChi
    I'm on the fence here. I really appreciate wanderer's sentiments, and astute identification of this individual as quite possibly very troubled.

    However, even if he was a full-blown drug addict, he can't therefore go to schools and teach people what they should do if they encounter drugs/drug addiction if he doesn't follow his own advice. He should be held more accountable than your average joe who might have no idea what a drug addiction is. He should have identified his addiction and sought help.

    I wouldn't have anything against a drug/alcohol addict teaching kids about addiction. They'd actually know more than the cop that just tells kids that drugs are bad. Mkay? So long as the drug addict was actively seeking the treatment needed.

    We all make mistakes, but some people make really huge mistakes don't they? Many people might lie or cheat, but not everyone drives drunk... a little bit of a bigger mistake I think...

    Some people are endowed with much more responsibility than others. If you're responsible for someone's life, you have a higher standard. No way out of that. If a ditch digger shows up drunk and digs a crooked ditch, no one's gonna care either way. If a cardiologist..... I need not go on.
  8. Terrapinzflyer
    No - I understand your point. But both the ditch digger and the cardiologist WILL make mistakes, and for the cardiologist sometimes those mistakes will be the result of the added pressure of expecting to be perfect. I have worked in high pressure, dangerous jobs- and while trust and the expectation of competency are one thing, the expectation of perfection and that the realities of day to day life won't cause problems at times is unrealistic.

    And as to drunk driving, as horrible as it is, there have been quite a few studies showing that talking on a cell phone or god forbid texting are as bad or worse, but looking around on a daily basis damn near everyone does it...
  9. Killa Weigha
    This was NOT an excusable mistake given his position of

    "the School Resource Officer, responsible for seven schools, acting as a mentor and providing students with a role model".

    We may all be human but we DON'T all have this authority that we just totally disrespected. He should be terminated with extreme prejudice and be made an example of. Not because he was a police but because he is a hypocrite in a position he CHOSE to assume with influence over children.

    This was the ONE THING he should have known not to do! As for "be(ing) treated fairly by his employer"? I'd feel personally shat upon if I were his boss and would let him know that in no uncertain terms before I fired his arrogant ass.

    Unfortunate but certainly inexcusable given the extenuating circumstances, IMO.
  10. NeuroChi
    And shouldn't it be this way? Those jobs that are high pressure, high risk, when it comes to putting someone's life at risk, do have a higher standard than those that don't.

    I've got a few friends from a *formerly* community country and they see exactly what effect leveing out the standards has: doctors and nurses just don't care as much as they should. Just like the construction workers, who also don't care all that much. But the former costs lives.

    I'd say the pressure to be perfect is a good thing, if you wake up and have to go on to prescribe medication you want to be pressured not to go out drinking before, to be on the ball. This is an extreme of the situation here ^ but the same goes for a cop: they need to be pressured to perform better than the average citizen.

    I'd say in many cases this pressure turns out great cops, that are very intelligent and focused on their work and act appropriately in times of crisis. I've been in the presence of situations where I'm awed by the astute demeanor of a cop doing his best. Gladly I haven't seen the opposite, as this story shows does occur.

    How this all ties into addiction is another story - I'd guess the rates of addiction and drug dependence are higher than we might estimate for professionals. I'd also guess the drug of choice is different for doctors surgeons et al. We don't really hear of them fucking up because they probably don't, if they use, I'd assume they still choose their dose carefully, or choose the time they take intoxicants carefully. We don't know that this ^ guy was an addict, so maybe he's just one of the that "makes mistakes all the time". Irresponsible.
  11. Sr. Jagger McBowie
    I think the "higher standard" is right. If for any reason, because cops, judges, and the like all know each other. Just by that they are held to less of a standard, even if it is all unofficial and under the radar.

    Go to a police forum (I think "ask a cop" is one...but I'm not sure, been forever since my last moving violation, so haven't been there in a while) and it should take you long to come across something called "professional courtesy" which means "Let other cops and emergency personnel off on traffic violations because you don't want to piss off people you might have to work with later." So having written rules to counteract that unwritten one would be good.

    And for his alcoholism...do we care? He was teaching kids to be addicts. He is one. That's a little messed up. Plus, I've known plenty of addicts who stayed not-intoxicated when on the road.

    Addiction excuses nothing. You either manage to make the consequences of your substance abuse irrelevent (AKA use at apropriot times discretely if necessary, and don't put yourself in situations where it will be dangerous), you quit or cut back, or you face the consequences of your actions. Period.
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