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Experts Skeptical About 'Digital Drugs' Claims by Teens

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  1. Balzafire
    Between smoking banana peels, suffocating each other and eating nutmeg, it seems like teenagers will do nearly anything to get the high associated with illegal drug use. But if educators at Mustang High School in Mustang, Oklahoma are to be believed, an even more unlikely pseudo-drug has found its way into common use: psychedelic music and tones that can be downloaded through the Internet.

    But drug experts are highly skeptical that such "digital drugs," or "i-doses" as some are calling it, are actually harmful or addictive.

    Teenagers at the high school claim that listening to these monotonous, layered sounds in a dark room can cause the same effects as ingesting illegal drugs like marijuana or LSD. The problem has reached the point where Mustang High School recently sent a letter to parents warning them about this growing trend.

    However, the parents shouldn’t worry, as the music almost certainly does not cause a high, or encourage future drug use, said Harriet de Wit, the principle investigator of the University of Chicago’s human behavioral pharmacology lab.

    Although experiments show that the expectation of getting high can enhance the symptoms associated with drugs, even when someone takes a placebo instead, no sound or music could trigger the exact pathways activated by specific drugs like PCP or Quaaludes, de Wit said. [Read "12 Trippy Apps for your iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch"]

    Similarly, even if the teenagers did experience some form of placebo effect, it wouldn’t be strong enough to cause addiction or the decision making and coordination impairments that results from taking drugs like ketamine and peyote, de Wit said.

    “It’s unlikely to cause any problems,” de Wit said.
    The Placebo effect "is a very moderate effect, and the problems you see with drugs are associated with high dosages.”





    By Stuart Fox, TechNewsDaily Contributor
    posted: 15 July 2010 08:11 am ET
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  1. kailey_elise
    Really?

    Just...really?

    *sighs*

    ~Kailey
  2. EyesOfTheWorld
    Hmm.......SWIM had "l-doses" in high school too, it was called "listen to Pink Floyd on headphones in a dark room".:laugh: This whole thing is such bullshit that I am actively embarrassed to be part of the same race (human) as the people taking it seriously.
  3. missparkles
    I wonder if the people who are making these claims have ever taken any hallucinogenic drug, cos it they had they'd realise that listening to ANY music in a darkened room is nothing like taking any drug.

    I mean, come on, I know music can make you feel so many things, it can touch you so deeply, but get you high? You have more chance getting high by walking upstairs than you have listening to trippy music.

    Are they misinformed, uninformed...no, they should be fuckin' well chloroformed.:s

    Sparkles.
  4. Balzafire
    I like to think that there is a group of teenagers somewhere laughing their asses off, saying "We sure freaked out those ol' fuckers, didn't we!?" Lol!
    The latest in a long, traditional line of hippie-hoaxes. :applause:
  5. missparkles
    If you take their crazy thinking to the next level, then it follows if you sit kids in a dark room listening to Jesus music, they conform and become good children, doesn't it?

    Sparkles.:vibes:

    Jesus music...when my daughter was young she always called religious music, or any kinda music that sounded a little religious, Jesus music. The music from Indianna Jones when his dad quotes Charlemagne, and chases birds off the beach with his umbrella, she called that Jesus music. Go figure.:s
  6. abuseforapie
    This is hilarious, really.

    Oh well, I guess people need something to complain about.

    Suffocating each other, who comes up with this shit?

    Sounds like a death wish more than a feeble attempt to get high.

    So now listening to music in a dark room is considered a way to get high? Great. That's just fucking great.
  7. yonez
    hmm this might be plausible if they remove the audible tones, and let the kids sit in there for days on end, but that's called sensory depervation. and I seriously doubt any kids wanting to drop into a tank to tune out.
  8. missparkles
    That would cause psychosis, not euphoria.

    Sparkles.:vibes:
  9. yonez
    to each there own! personally I don't find them very different... as strange as that sounds.

    not to mention not all drugs cause euphoria, but all drugs can lead to a state of psychosis, dependent on the person, use, dosage and a million other factors of course.
  10. missparkles
    But we weren't talking about drugs causing this, we were talking about being locked in a dark room, and having music played very loud through headphones. You were talking about sleep deprivation, which doesn't cause euphoria. No doubt some smart ass is gonna come along and tell me that music at certain levels, can actually induce a kinda euphoria.:s

    Sparkles.:vibes:

    I'm off to bed, sweet dreams all.:)
  11. yonez

    actually I wasn't talking about sleep dep. at all, sensory dep. yes.. they are two different things with similar effects but sleep dep is NO where near as powerful as sensory dep.
  12. missparkles
    Yes you're correct, my apologies. I was thinking about bed as I was tired. I did mean sensory deprivation, of course.

    Sparkles.:vibes:
  13. Coconut
    Well that's hardly surprising. What is surprising is the mention of PCP and Quaaludes, which I would have thought are fairly obscure.
  14. wanderingaimlessly
    There is a video on youtube that flashes these psychadelic patterns for a few minutes and when you look away,you get sort of a "wall breathing" affect like one might see on certain chemicals. I suppose that will be the next target for the anti drug crusaders. Give me a break. teenagers can't even enjoy auditory illusions without fear of reprimand.:s
  15. EyesOfTheWorld

    Indeed. I (not SWIM, music isn't illegal) would pay very good money for a copy if there existed music that actually gave you an identical feeling to taking Quaaludes, but this whole thing is just twaddle. As for mentioning PCP and Quaaludes, fairly standard reporter bullshit, just randomly listing names of drugs as though they're all the same. Interesting (albeit indirect) assertion that peyote is addictive.:s
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