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  1. chillinwill
    A TEENAGE girl is seriously ill in hospital after taking the party drug mephedrone.

    Kirsty Elder, 17, suffered a seizure after being given the stimulant.

    The drug is known as "plant food" and was legal until being banned by the Government yesterday - two days after Kirsty became a victim.

    The teenager had been on a camping trip with friends.

    Last night, her devastated mum Tracey, 39, said: "I an heartbroken, I can't believe this has happened to Kirsty.

    "She is a smart young girl who wants to become a midwife, she isn't someone who is into taking drugs or anything like that.

    "I think someone must have put this mephedrone stuff in her drink while she was away camping because it has come up on tests at the hospital along with alcohol.

    "She went away camping with friends on Tuesday night but came home in the early hours of Wednesday feeling really ill.

    "Then she started having a fit on the living room floor, it was terrifying. I just had to hold her so she couldn't hurt herself while I was calling an ambulance."

    Kirsty, from Dalrymple, Ayrshire, was rushed to Ayr Hospital and put in a high dependency unit suffering from fits and with critically low blood sugar levels.

    The fun-loving sixth year pupil at Carrick Academy is studying for her Highers and hopes to become a midwife.

    Mum-of-three Tracey added: "I don't know what to do or think about this. I am a complete wreck. I can't sleep and I'm terrified Kirsty isn't going to be OK.

    "My beautiful daughter is now lying in a hospital bed in a terrible state. She is covered in bruises from having the fits and barely has the energy to speak or move and there is nothing I can do about it.

    "I cannot believe that until now, this stuff was legal and children could get their hands on it as easily as sweets or a can of Coke. It is illegal now but it's too late for my daughter. I hope this makes other parents realise this could so easily happen to their child and that this drug is dangerous.

    "They say it has killed people so I just can't understand what has taken so long to make it illegal. The problem is that even when it is illegal, people will still find ways of getting hold of it.

    "Right now I just want my daughter back. I love her so much and it is destroying me to see her in that hospital bed. She is usually so full of life. She loves helping people and is just a genuinely lovely girl."

    Until the Government banned it yesterday, mephedrone was legal in the UK and could be bought on the internet and in shops.

    Legislation now puts the drug in the class B category alongside cannabis. It was rushed through Parliament after the substance was highlighted in the media. The government's drugs advisers - the Advisory council for the Misuse of Drugs - found evidence it is "likely to be harmful".

    Possession now carries a maximum sentence of five years' imprisonment, while dealers could receive up to 14 years.

    The Association of Chief Police Officers say they have no intention of criminalising young people caught with mephedrone, also known as "meow". Retailers have been asked to hand over stocks to police.

    The move to ban the drug came in the wake of several deaths claimed to have been linked to the substance.

    But two government drugs advisers resigned over the move, claiming the harmful effects had not been proven and a ban would criminalise thousands of kids.

    John Feguson
    April 17, 2010
    Daily Record
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...e-as-teenager-fights-for-life-86908-22192004/

Comments

  1. arichmond64
    A couple of lines that made me chuckle.

    She is a smart young girl who wants to become a midwife, she isn't someone who is into taking drugs or anything like that

    I think someone must have put this mephedrone stuff in her drink while she was away camping because it has come up on tests at the hospital along with alcohol.


    Dont know just love how all parents think their children wouldnt do such a thing? And you need to be a skinny, dying, unsuccessful wreck to be a person who takes drugs.

    Funny
  2. Paradox
    "I think someone must have put this mephedrone stuff in her drink while she was away camping because it has come up on tests at the hospital along with alcohol."

    Likely the alcohol is a big part of why it caused her problems. Also, if she "isn't into taking drugs" she wouldn't be drinking. I don't understand why people fail to realize that EtOH is a drug. I have heard of one death that was mephedrone related without any mixing of drugs.

    "Then she started having a fit on the living room floor, it was terrifying. I just had to hold her so she couldn't hurt herself while I was calling an ambulance."

    Just so that other SWIMmers might read this and know what to do, if someone is having a seizure do NOT try to restrain them. Move objects away from them so that they will not hit themselves on anything, but trying to restrain them increases the damage they are likely to do to themselves. Also, NEVER try to put ANYTHING in their mouth. After they come out of the seizure, if EMS isn't there ABC (Airway, Breathing, Circulation.)
  3. the_snorter
    so making it illegal hasn't stopped anything. well done!!!!
  4. girlygrrl
    Frankly people keep pointing the finger to illegal drugs but alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription medications kill people at staggering rates.

    If someone OD's on a drug and has alcohol in their system I'm generally more inclined to blame alcohol's propensity to badly interact with other drugs over the drugs they took.

    A relative of mine did every drug under the sun and lots of them. But he tragically died from overdose...everyone was quick to blame his recreational use of illegal and quasi-legal drugs for the problem. But when the autopsy results came back it was mixing alcohol with his prescription anti-psychotic that was determined to be the official the cause of death - he didn't even have anything else in his system.

    So yeah people vastly downplay the risks of legal and prescribed drugs, and vastly elevate the risks of illegal and quasi-legal "recreational" drugs. I wish people would buy less into the misinformation and focus more on reality, aka looking at each drug and comparing its risks/rewards against actual science vs. whatever Big PHARMA and Big Tobacco and other people supply as information in order to control their cashflow.

    I mean seriously people can't OD on pot and that's generally illegal, but people OD all the time from alcohol and bad interactions with alcohol and nobody thinks twice about it.
  5. arichmond64
    It also says somewhere she had low blood sugar levels.
    Anyone think she is probably diabetic?
  6. missparkles
    I think everyone needs to be realistic about this drug, it's not alcohol. You can go out for a few drinks at the weekend with friends, come home and go to bed. It doesn't prevent you from eating, it doesn't make you stay up for 2 days straight (sometimes longer) it doesn't turn your limbs blue, and it doesn't cause all the nasty side effects mephedrone is now known to have. Yes, it is legal, and yes, it is possible to abuse alcohol. And if abused for long enough, alcohol can have serious psychological and social repercussions, as well as life threatening consequences. But come on, this usually takes some time. And with the awareness that people have about alcohol (and it's effects) people make an informed choice.

    But every time there's a story about a substance naive person using mephedrone (read all legal highs) suffering life threatening consequences that require hospitalisation, perhaps even losing their life, people start denying it's a problem. They begin comparing it to other legal drugs like alcohol, or claim "there must have been an underlying illness, that at the time had not been diagnosed." It's everything but the actual drug. Perhaps this is the case, in some instances, but this is a very strong stimulant we're talking about. One that is taken on face value, without real knowledge of it's ingredients, unlike alcohol, where you know exactly what's in it. By trivialising the effects of these research chemicals, as recently reported in the media, you're doing just what the prohibitionists are doing, but in reverse.

    They're exaggerating the effects of mephedrone, and you're minimising them, see the similarity? Now I'm not being argumentative about this, just trying to point out that all drug info should be accurate Cos if the people that use drugs, the experts that have extensive knowledge of every aspect of their use (DF members) can't be impartial, how can they expect anyone else to. Some substances are almost harmless, and that needs to be stated, but when they're not (regardless of their legality) it still needs to be said.

    The way mephedrone is sometimes discussed, you're think it's stimulant properties were not much different to caffeine. Apologies if this opinion is not appreciated, but I did think it was important to point out, that even though the governments of most countries cannot be honest about drugs and their effects, we can. That's harm reduction, cos by giving others the no frills truth, they can then make their own "informed" not "misinformed" choice.

    Sparkles.:vibes:
  7. Sven99
    No way in hell you could spike somebody with mephedrone. The woman being interviewed can't realistically be expected to know that, but the news reporter should have damn well done their research.
  8. Paradox
    Sparkles does bring up a very good point. I was not meaning to claim that mephedrone was safe, but more that mixing alcohol with nearly anything seems to be bad news. My penguin knows that when he mixes alcohol and marajuana, he becomes disoriented to the point where he can hardly function or find his way home...and that is mixing it with one of the safest drugs known.

    I wasn't meaning to suggest that mephedrone was safe, my penguin also tells me that it is on the list of drugs that he would never experiment with, but that the risks associated with mephedrone are not absolutely terrible until it is mixed with other substances. I also am annoyed by the media coverage of this drug, where they associate the risks of polysubstance abuse with the risks of mephedrone alone. However, you were definitely right that my post made it sound as if mephedrone was as safe as alcohol, and was going to the other extreme on the issue and that is not what I meant. It is a serious hard drug with serious consequences for abuse, and was not given the respect it deserved by most users.

    ETA: I didn't feel targeted, your post just made me think about it in a different light. No need to worry Sparkles, every post I've read by you on this site has been kind and caring and helpful, I know you weren't calling me out. (Didn't feel this was worth a new post, so I edited it into this one.)
  9. missparkles
    I just wanna clarify, I wasn't directing my post at anyone, it was a general comment, so please Paradox, no need to say anything love...ok? Like you I believe all substances deserve to be treated withe the utmost respect, and should be thoroughly researched before ingestion. Although Sparkles no longer uses any drugs that are not prescribed, only those that are absolutely essential for the upkeep of her health, she'd fight for SWIYs right to take them.

    Sparkles.:vibes:
  10. girlygrrl
    My point wasn't to downplay mephedrone's risks. My point was that nobody really pays attention to alcohol as a risk factor. Alcohol is extremely dangerous when combined with certain other substances, mephedone being one of them.

    The article was full of misinfo, nobody was preying on that girl, meph is not a date-rape drug that someone would try to slip into your drink, that makes no sense at all.

    She didn't do the research and evaluate the risk/reward of the substance. Granted, nobody should be selling meph to a 14 year old.

    But as dangerous as meph can be, blaming it on the drug itself is kind of dumb. The drug has risks, but so do many other things in life. It's called taking personal responsibility for one's actions, doing the research, and using common sense.

    Some have mentioned how great MDPV is, but that seems way more dangerous than meph due to the effects of taking even 10mg of the stuff. Given that there are chems out there that can be active at such small amounts, if one is going to delve into RC one needs to get very clear about the risks they are taking before blindly diving in.

    Meph is probably more dangerous than coke, but it can be used responsibly. But people just taking it on a whim having done no research is silly. "legal" does not mean "safe".
  11. John Doe
    That's an extremely speculative forwarded opinion formed by a mother, and we all know how blindly naive some mothers can be especially where something as socially unacceptable as drug use is involved.

    Became a victim? Did it stalk her into the woods or something?

    Anything like what exactly Mrs. Elder? Some kind of mutant that lives in the sewers and feeds on fish heads and chemicals? Was this per chance because she didn't form a hump back if she happened to have been unluckily spiked previously?

    After all these years I still can't, with all my might, imagine how somebody can possibly give a story to a national publication with such blind utter certainty without first thinking long and hard about it first and considering alternative, more plausible explanations. The possibility of it being realized she may have been doing a whole lot of things a lot of people didn't know about or acknowledge surely make such statements very embarrassing?

    Alcohol consumption is a widely known cause of Hypoglycaemia but there's not one mention they could have been drinking bottles of spirits? We were all young once and know the extremes teenagers sometimes go to with regards alcohol.

    Who are 'they'? The people who pay cash for stories?


    I'm not saying Mephedrone has been a benefit to society or anything, I think quite the opposite. I know firsthand the fiendish bastard of a drug it is. But this kind of story really, really gets to me.

    I'm all for educated and informed debate and filthy speculation and scare mongering by the press is one of the biggest adversaries intelligence has ever faced.

    I know the sheer volume of people who will quote this as gospel and be fearful in their beds at night that their teenager could get spiked at any moment.
  12. Lithop
    Re. alcohol, haven't all the mephedrone users who died all mixed it with (at least) alcohol? And there have been no reports on how much of it the users took either.

    My first thought was why stories like these don't tell people that if they must use mephedrone, don't drink with it and don't be stupid with the dosage. But then I came to my senses and realised that that would be interpreted by the public as encouraging young teens to take it.

    Has "just say no and that's all you're going to know" education ever discouraged teens from anything?!?
  13. girlygrrl
    ^ Don't expect paranoid parents to apply logic. It is statistical fact that those who preach "abstinence only" programs have much higher rates of unwanted pregnancies.

    Parents need to educate their children, not keep them in the dark and tell them something like "drugs and sex are bad, ummkay".

    Much better to have solid sex education and reading through the vaults on erowid than trying to pretend like kids are never going to do things that parents don't want them to.
  14. chillinwill
    Mephedrone girl released from hospital but too weak to walk

    A SCHOOLGIRL who fell ill after taking the party drug mephedrone is so weak she cannot walk.

    Kirsty Elder, 17, had a seizure on Wednesday after returning home from a camping trip.

    Hospital tests revealed she had been given mephedrone, known as "plant food".

    Kirsty was released from hospital at the weekend. But she is far from well.

    Her mum Tracey, 39, said: "I don't know what this has done to her.

    "Kirsty is not pale - she is grey and she does not look herself.

    "She has not got the strength to walk and I have to keep a close eye on her.

    "I need to check her blood sugar level every four hours.

    "Kirsty's exams start next month but I don't think she is going to be well enough to sit them."

    Tracey, from Dalrymple, Ayrshire, added: "She was a healthy girl but this has messed her body up and she is terrified."

    Mum-of-three Tracey believes Kirsty's drink was spiked with mephedrone during the camping trip with friends on Tuesday.

    She added: "It may have been done for a laugh but it is not funny.

    "When the paramedics turned her over, I thought she was dead.

    "I have asked her friends but they have told me they don't know anything.

    "It is a total nightmare. If anything had happened to her, I would have got those responsible done for manslaughter."

    Kirsty, who is in sixth year at Carrick Academy, Maybole, fell ill after returning home from the camping trip in the early hours of Wednesday.

    She was taken to Ayr Hospital's high dependency unit, where her blood sugar levels were found to be dangerously low.

    Kirsty was released from hospital on Saturday - but her mum still has to check her sugar levels round the clock.

    The schoolgirl fell ill two days before the Government made mephedrone illegal.

    Until then, the drug, also known as "meow meow", was legal in the UK.

    The ban was rushed through after the substance was blamed for several deaths.

    A new legal high is set to take the place of mephedrone, experts have warned. Websites have opened up offering MDAI for sale.

    MDAI was developed as an anti-depressant in America and replicates the effects of ecstasy.

    By Ben Spencer
    April 19, 2010
    Daily Record
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...hospital-but-too-weak-to-walk-86908-22196230/
  15. arichmond64
    Hang on, so she was drinking underage, which is actually illegal, but she surely couldnt of taken this "legal" substance, which the whole country is taking, and raving on about.

    Stories like this are hilarious, and the reason people like her mother are the way they are.

    Mephedrone is like anything else, if your going to abuse it, then you will suffer the consequences. I bet no one has, or will die, from taking 1 or 2 doses in a night, without alcohol or any other drug.
    If someone was on antibiotics, and drank, which we all are told you are not supposed to do, and died, who would get the blame, the drink? the antibiotics? or the person?

    Im sure we all know the right answer here
  16. benzup!
    what?! MDAI is going to replace mephedrone?! fuck, that statement made swim rofl for abit. if people think falling asleep into a dreamy trip is a good way to emulate the euphoric and stimulating effects of mephedrone, then let them eat their cake and find out just how wrong they are. The media know absolutely FUCK ALL about these substances and how they are even remotely similar. It still pisses swim off that methylone got bundled in with the illegalisation of mephedrone, when it has never really been mentioned in the media, and the only reason they all got banned was due to constant public pressure. has anyone actually even read or heard anything about methylone being merely 'linked' to any deaths of any sort?
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