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  1. Nagognog2
    Feds try to seize gold from suspects' teeth
    April 7, 2006

    TACOMA, Wash. --Talk about taking a bite out of crime.
    Government lawyers tried to confiscate the gold tooth caps known as "grills" from the mouths of two men facing drug charges, saying the dental work qualified as seizable assets. They had them in a vehicle headed to a dental clinic by the time defense attorneys persuaded a judge to halt the procedure.

    "I've been doing this for over 30 years and I have never heard of anything like this," said Richard J. Troberman, a past president of the Washington Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. "It sounds like Nazi Germany when they were removing the gold teeth from the bodies, but at least then they waited until they were dead."

    Prosecutors had a warrant to seize the gold dental work, according to documents and lawyers involved in the case. But they eventually abandoned the effort, saying they mistakenly thought the grills were removable.

    The customized tooth caps, popularized by rappers such as Nelly, are made of precious metals and jewels and can cost thousands of dollars for a full set. Some can be snapped onto the teeth, while others are permanently bonded to the teeth.

    Flenard T. Neal Jr. and Donald Jamar Lewis both have permanently bonded grills, their lawyers said.

    Neal and Lewis, both charged with several drug and weapon violations, were taken Tuesday from the Federal Detention Center to the U.S. marshal's office, where they were told the government had a warrant to seize the grills. They called their lawyers as they were about to be taken to a dentist, said Miriam Schwartz, Neal's public defender.

    A permanent stay of the seizure order was issued that day by U.S. Magistrate J. Kelley Arnold, court documents show.

    "Asset forfeiture is a fairly routine procedure, and our attorneys were under the impression that these snapped out like a retainer," said Emily Langlie, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in Seattle.

    The defense lawyers criticized what they said was a clandestine attempt to have the grills removed.

    "It's shocking that this kind of action by the federal government could be sought and accomplished in secret, without anyone being notified," said Zenon Peter Olbertz, who represents Lewis. "It reminds me of the secret detentions" in terrorist cases.

    Langlie and court clerks said seizure warrants are typically sealed to prevent defendants from trying to move or hide valuables and evidence. They become public with the filing of a return that shows what was seized.

Comments

  1. Richard_smoker
    Hahhaa! Let this be a warning to all drug dealers!

    Put your earnings into precious body-modifications! Apparently, according to this ruling, you can be carrying 10's of 1000's of dollars in jewels in your grill. Sounds pretty handy when strapped for cash.

    Also, whenever possible, buy any and all kinds of medical treatments and plastic surgery you might enjoy or need before you launder your money.
  2. Motorhead
    A full set can cost thousands of dollars. Yup, and all that is markup from the dentist. Gold is only trading at around 600 bucks an ounce! And the dentists would'nt take the fucking things back out for free(whoo hoo, double whammy) How much bling is a full set? Would give a new meaning to the term slaw jaw roflmao. But seriously, a full set could not be worth the hassel. The bank doesnt even consider anything under a thousand bucks a seizable asset. Strange indeedy. Its Friday night, lets Party.
  3. Nagognog2
    I think you missed the main point here: These people were FACING drug charges. NOT convicted of any. So if they think you might be doing something naughty, should they come after you with pliers?
  4. Richard_smoker
    ok i missed the main point. you're right. sorry... guess i went too far with the range of possibilities and implications.

    speaking of 'facing charges.' i have serious issues with 'faced charges' even when they're thrown out of court. I can't believe how much of a pain in the ass false arrests and not-guilty verdicts can be. How they will continue to haunt someone and actually still HURT SOMEONE for the rest of their lives. especially when their jobs do background checks that reveal not only convictions, but also arrests and charges. I mean, WTF??? Just my opinion, but I don't think they should be able take shit without a verifiable reason or a guilty verdict. much less pull your fucking teeth out. it's bad enough just having someone put handcuffs on you and throw in the back of their car...
  5. kemistudent
    OMG! lol, that is just going a bit overboard. I know lil john and many other rappers lace up their teeth with thousands in diamonds and gold, but c'mon, thats like taking a platinum pace maker out of Ken Lay!
  6. Motorhead
    I was a little intoxicated last night and completely missed the fact these guys were only facing charges! And im really out of tune with hip hop culture.

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    That is some serious bling! And heres a clip on one by itself.

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    These clip ons are rather popular apparently. Not here in buttfuck nowhere, but i was surprised by a google search of their popularity.
    But what is the deal with issueing seizure warrants without a conviction? And wouldnt they have to prove that any assets were purchased by drug procedes even if they were convicted? Were they leaning on the Patriot Act for this one? Makes me think twice about bitching about mr Harper. lol.
  7. Nagognog2
    Under the Federal Forfeiture Act, the government can sieze anything/everything that you own by meerly saying they "think" it's related to drugs. Your house. Your car. Your bank account. Everything. They don't even need to charge you with a crime. If you want your property returned - all you have to do is prove that you are not a drug dealer.

    Can anyone prove a negative? No! It's a shakedown pure and simple. Most decent lawyers will tell you that it will cost you $10,000 to file the needed suits to demand your property returned - and will tell you that you don't stand a chance of winning. But not to worry - you don't have $10,000 anymore. The feds already took it.
  8. old hippie 56
    Between a ex-wife and the feds, swim had to start from scratch. Damn good reason to keep his nose clean. It was pure hell.
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