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  1. chillinwill
    Selling paraphernalia will put retailers one toke over the line

    Hey stoners, if you're in need of a bong or pipe, you'd be wise to buy one while you can.

    A bill passed Wednesday will make it illegal in Florida to sell the drug paraphernalia in most head shops.

    The so-called "Bong Bill" passed by the Senate and then overwhelmingly passed 115-0 in the House now heads to Gov. Crist for final approval.

    The bill prohibits the sale of the items by businesses that don't make at least 75 percent of their money from tobacco sales or make over 25 percent from sale of the prohibited items.

    Violators could face up to a year in jail.

    The bill, sponsored by Rep. Darryl Rouson, of St. Petersburg, would go into effect July 1.

    “I’ve been fighting the pipe industry for the longest, because it is all a part of the drug trade and the criminal enterprise that we know exists and destroys neighborhoods, families and order in our society,” Rouson said earlier this month.

    The head shops aren't fooling Rouson when they say the pipes and bongs are used for legal tobacco.

    “When is the last time you stopped at a red light and saw someone smoking a hit of tobacco out of one of these one-shooters or water pipes?” said Rouson.

    Last year, Rouson also proposed HB 187, which calls for an extra sales tax on smoking paraphernalia, because he wanted to use the revenue for DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) programs, that were being cut.

    “Florida has a conscience and an awareness that marijuana and the smoking and ingesting of it is not healthy for an individual, nor is it healthy for public safety and the order in society,” Rouson said.

    Looks like we won't be cracking this list anytime soon.

    April 28, 2010
    NBC Miami


  1. death&decay
    Just another thoughtless tactic to fight a war that they will never win. It is impossible to remove marijuana use from the public and this is just another tool to slap those users with more fines. I hope to god this doesn't spread, as Swim is in the southern states himself.
  2. BloodyMuffin
    Now that's obviously a valid argument if you disagree with marijuana use, but i gotta ask, when was the last time you saw someone smoking anything from a bong in a car? in fact, when was the last time you saw someone smoking a bong and didnt immediately assume it was marijuana? the fact of the matter is that even were someone to smoke tobacco out of a bong they would still be stopped by the cops because they had a bong. the last time swim smoked from a hookah a cop immediately stopped him and his friends and questioned what was in it, because its a water pipe and therefore associated with drug use.
  3. Omalley
    “When is the last time you stopped at a red light and saw someone smoking a hit of tobacco out of one of these one-shooters or water pipes?” said Rouson.

    “Florida has a conscience and an awareness that marijuana and the smoking and ingesting of it is not healthy for an individual, nor is it healthy for public safety and the order in society,” Rouson said.

    Combining these two quotes by Rouson you should come to the conclusion that according to him smoking tobacco out of a pipe IS A HEALTHIER OPTION than smoking marijuana out of it.
  4. Glo82
    For selling a bong? What a waste of resources!:confused:

    Really, bong sales...part of the drug trade and criminal enterprise..destroys neighborhoods???? I can't believe I am reading this. I also can't believe that anyone in this day age anyone who says this really believes the things they are saying.

    If they do, they obiviously don't realize it is prohibition that criminalizes drugs, epecially harmless, non-addictive drugs like marijauna. I find it funny that there has not been one death attributed to marijauna use and thousands and millions attributed alcohol and tabocco use and these are not being banned! But preaching to the chior, right?

    No apparently, legislators in Florida or picking easy targets rather than focusing on more pressing issues of the state to make it look like they are doing something. I'd even argue that marijuana use is good for public safety and order in society...but I can't prove that..but if you come to any music festivals where most people are baked, you'll find that things are pretty peaceful and orderly, ironically.

    Anyway, those are the quotes I am nitpicking on.
  5. wednesday
    so why not just sell a pound of tobacco leaf with the free incentive of a "bong" ( i have a certain distaste for this term)
    want a nice bong buy more baccy
    then you aren't making the money from the actual glass or "prohibited items"
    and yes you may end up losing money but it would still be nice to go to a shop and pick out a piece instead of buying one online
    just a thought
  6. bcubed
    What wendesday said.

    So, this means that, for every $25 of praphenlia a shop sells, they also have to sell $75 worth of tobacco?

    That's not an "anti-paraphenlia law; it's a "pro-tobacco" law!

    If one owns a "head shop," start selling tobacco...and if the books don't come out right at the end of the month, the proprietor "sells" himself some tobacco (i.e. takes money out of his right pocket and puts it in his left).

    Running a head shop in FL just got marginally more complicated...
  7. BloodyMuffin
    They'd lose money on the taxes though.
  8. Thirdedge
    Perhaps Florida headshops need look into selling legal highs? These would surely bump the bongs sales down to below the required 25%, due to quicker repeat custom.
  9. Valseedian
    they actually have to make MORE than 25% on paraphernalia for it to be legal, not less.. So, there will have to be shops that sell ONLY bongs, pipes and other items covered by this legislation, and another right next door for all your grinders and papers and baccy... (but it'll be risky buisness to combine bongs and grinders for instance, as grinders are not covered, and will count against their 25% in paraphernalia sales.. ) I can see alot of bullshit lawsuits and atleast one 'example' made of someone who made 24.95% of their money through bongs and pipes... all the while, bringing 'smokers' into the field of vision, essentially being counter productive.

    not to mention how many man hours are going to go into prosecuting would be offenders and doing all the run-around to prove it was in the guidelines...

    that system is horridly flawed and wholy unconstitutional to put those type of arbitrary stipulations on buisness.

    keep it simple.
  10. Paradox
    Valseedian, I think you're reading it backwards. As it says there, the shop can't make more than 25% on the bongs or other glass pipes. I wish you were right though.
  11. MrG
    This is quite right. Any retailer who wants to bundle a 'free gift' as an incentive for a customer to pay a 'little' extra will be able to circumvent this law quite easily. It wouldn't have to be a tobacco product as, because the 'bong' is not actually being sold, the retailer wouldn't have to worry about upping his brown-leaf-sale quota.

    Want to buy a disposable lighter? Certainly, whilst our lighters may cost considerably more than those supplied by your local 7/11, they do come with a beautiful, ornate piece of glassware for free, you know, as an incentive.

    Job done and up middle finger to the fucking republican lizard scum.
  12. Rob Cypher
    GOP Governor Rick Scott Makes ‘Willful’ Sale Of Marijuana Pipes And Bongs Illegal In Florida

    Gov. Rick Scott has signed a “bong ban” bill in Florida. Florida is becoming nationally known for its “pill mills,” distributing millions of addictive OxyContin pills, however, the Republican controlled legislature has decided to attack marijuana users. Although the bill appears to be symbolic and largely toothless, the mere gesture of signing this bill into law shows how “limited” Rick Scott’s government really is.

    The bill makes the sale of pipes, bongs, bowls and other devices commonly used to smoke marijuana illegal. However, there is a caveat. The bill says “knowing and willful” sale of drug paraphernalia is prohibited. So any head shop owner that sells pipes can do so, if the purpose of the device is used for tobacco. However, if marijuana is even mentioned as the intended use the retailer can face up to a 1,000 dollar fine or 1 year jail sentence for a first offense. If the retailer is caught two times it is considered a 3rd degree felony. This means if you are caught “willfully” selling a marijuana pipe you can face up to 5 years in prison and lose your right to vote in Florida.

    Meanwhile, 7 in 10 Florida voters support a constitutional amendment legalizing medical marijuana. This outstanding support shows the obvious disconnect between Florida state lawmakers and its citizens. A bill to legalize medical marijuana in the Florida Senate didn’t even receive a hearing. The bill is called the “Cathy Jordan Medical Cannabis Act” after Cathy Jordan who was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig’s disease since 1986. Mrs. Jordan used marijuana to help with her condition. The Manatee County police staged a raid on her house, guns drawn and all, on the medical marijuana advocates house in February. Just to be clear: the cops utilized a para-militarized force to raid the house of a person suffering from a disease that causes muscle spasms, weakness and muscle atrophy. This clearly constitutes a blatant overuse of government force. The police seized 23 plants which she was using to help mitigate the progression of her illness. Perhaps they were expecting Reefer Madness?

    There are pushes to get medical marijuana on the Florida ballot in 2014, the year Rick Scott is up for re-election. If the measure successfully finds its way on the ballot, Rick Scott will have to answer for his “bong ban” bill. The push for medical marijuana has made considerable strides in the state of Florida. However, if elected representatives continue to ignore the demands of the people it can actually begin to affect their campaigns and the positions they take on this issue. Going forward medical marijuana will no longer be a non-issue; rather it seems it can become a defining issue for candidates in Florida state elections.

    Chris Lazare
    Addicting Info
    June 20, 2013

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