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  1. John Doe
    Immediate ban for head shop substances

    The Government has today introduced new measures to criminalise the sale of legal highs.

    Minister for Health Mary Harney has announced a criminal ban with immediate effect on a list of these drugs.

    The ban makes it illegal to buy or sell Mephedrone, also known Snow or Blow, spice products and chemical substances which mimic cannabis, cocaine and ecstasy.

    Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern has also published the main parts of the New Criminal Law, which makes it illegal to sell hallucinogenic products.

    The Psychoactive Substances Bill will also allow gardaí to seek a court order to close head shops suspected of selling drug-like products with the onus on the owners to prove they are not.

    Minister Harney brought an order to Cabinet to ban the substances following approval for the measure from the European Commission yesterday.

    'These substances are dangerous and their sale and promotion have caused huge anxiety to families and communities throughout the country,' Minister Harney said.

    'Their possession and supply are now illegal and subject to criminal sanction of: up to 7 years imprisonment and/or a fine for unlawful possession, and, on indictment, up to a maximum period of life imprisonment for unlawful supply,' she said.

    Minister Pat Carey, minister with responsibility for the National Drugs Strategy, said the measures will send out a 'clear message', especially to young people, about the dangers of psychoactive substances sold through head shops.

    Minister Carey said: 'The controls introduced today constitute a significant measure to tackle the issue of the psychoactive substances currently being supplied here in Ireland via the internet and through head shops.'

    He continued: 'Psychoactive products on sale in Ireland will continue to be monitored and any other products with a detrimental health effect will be added to the list of controlled substances'.


    Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:59
    RTÉ News
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0511/headshops.html

    (Updated at 14:59 as the original source gets updated...)

Comments

  1. John Doe
    Wow is all I can say, fair play to the Irish Government for once again following in the footsteps of the great British Empire and passing a law which could yet turn out to be illegal but by which time it will be too late.

    The clincaly obese minister for health, have you ever heard anything funnier? Look up the Wiki about her the pic is newer than the Governmental one.

    Holy friggin moly... Maybe it's the U.S. they're trying to take a hint from?
  2. Synthesised
    What a joke. Good to hear they're going about this with good old proven prohibition.

    This just takes the business out of the easily regulated, tax paying head shops and drops it straight into the laps of criminals.
    It's most likely street dealers won't bother with RCs though and will instead stick with tried and true adulterated drugs, cut with crap and contaminants.
  3. Alfa
    It isn't like Ireland is on the brink of recession or anything. They surely could do without a multimillion tax revenue source. Can they?
  4. Kinetic
    Harney bans headshop products

    Health Minister Mary Harney has moved to ban a number of "legal highs" sold in headshops from today.

    She says that due to rising concerns about headshop products, she has received permission from the EU to speed up the three-month consultation process stipulated as necessary before the ban could be implemented.

    The EU advised the Government yesterday that the ban could be introduced without the need to wait for the official expiry of the consultation period next month.

    The Minister has declared the substances to be controlled drugs under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977 with immediate effect.

    The legal move means that anyone caught possessing the substances could now face up to seven years imprisonment and/or a fine, and up to a maximum period of life imprisonment for ilegally supplying the drugs.

    The list of substances is:

    * Syntheric cannabinoids (contained in SPICE products).

    * Benzylpiperazine (BZP) and piperazine derivatives.

    * Mephedrone, methylone, methedrone, butylone, phlephedrone, and MDPV GBL and 1.4 BD.


    Minister Harney said these substances are dangerous and their sale and promotion have caused huge anxiety to families and communities throughout the country.

    She said the new restrictions mean that the reckless, irresponsible people who have sold and promoted them must safely dispose of every product containing even one of the substances immediately.

    "They cannot sell, supply possess or distribute this stock with effect from the start of today, May 11."

    Fine Gael health spokesperson Dr James Reilly welcomed the ban but warned that measures to tackle new products that may now be developed would also be needed.

    “The Minister’s statement today is the most comprehensive response to date in combating the dangerous substances which are on sale in head shops. It is regrettable that we lag somewhat behind other countries in this regard and that new analogues of existing products may already be in development."

    Dr Reilly said it is it is imperative that we also seek to pre-empt the arrival of new products onto headshop shelves.

    "We must legislate so that no substance for human consumption should be sold across any counter unless it has been approved by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland or the Irish Medicines Board.”

    [Posted: Tue 11/05/2010]
    http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=17294
  5. Synthesised
    I don't see naphyrone on that list.

    Is this the paper's wording or is the law as general as this.
    How can they ban a hallucinogen or things which 'mimic' if they're not sold for human consumption. I know everyone knows these things are bull, but the whole point is that the laws are too general so they only cover unclassified products for human consumption.

    I guess you could ignore this post if the list posted is in fact all the ban includes, but I get the gist they are trying to ban 'legal highs'.
  6. chillinwill
    Immediate Criminal Ban On List Of Head Shop Products Announced

    Health Minister Mary Harney, T.D., announced today that the Government has made an Order declaring a number of substances, commonly referred to as so-called ‘legal highs’, to be controlled drugs under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977, with immediate effect.

    The move has the backing of the relevant EU authorities and includes a ban on substances including mephedrone, synthetic cannabinoids, methylone methedrone and BZP. Currently, there is one Head Shop operating in County Clare.

    Minister Harney commented: “These substances are dangerous and their sale and promotion have caused huge anxiety to families and communities throughout the country”.

    “Their possession and supply are now illegal and subject to criminal sanction of up to 7 years imprisonment and/or a fine for unlawful possession, and, on indictment, up to a maximum period of life imprisonment for unlawful supply”.

    “This means that the reckless, irresponsible people who have sold and promoted them must safely dispose of every product containing even one of the substances immediately. Otherwise they could face criminal prosecution. They cannot sell, supply, possess or distribute this stock, with effect from the start of today, 11th May”, she added.

    “I am confident that An Garda Siochána will enforce this law rigorously. There have been ample reports in Ireland of persons suffering serious illnesses attributed to using some of these substances, and deaths have been reported in other countries, particularly where some of these substances were taken with alcohol or other substances”, concluded the Minister.

    The list of the substances by common name is:
    - synthetic cannabinoids (contained in SPICE products)
    - benzylpiperazine (BZP) and piperazine derivatives
    - mephedrone, methylone methedrone, butylone, flephedrone, and MDPV
    - GBL and 1,4 BD

    The full list of banned products are available on the Department of Health and Children’s website.

    Katrina Doyle
    May 11, 2010
    The Calre Herald
    http://www.clareherald.com/local-ne...-on-list-of-head-shop-products-announced.html
  7. MrG
    Wow, that's quite the knee-jerk. Does this mean that the on-line, Ireland-based, vendors will suddenly stop selling these products or are they likely to try an offload them quickly?
  8. Alfa
    Immediate effect? That gives vendors and consumers no time to get rid of their now illegal products. How is that possible?
  9. Erumelithil
    SWIM had just swung by the head shop today to pick up some party powder before reading this. No sign of any clean up operation in there anyway.

    Looks like this could be "The Last Hurrah" for SWIM and his amazing party powder.
    Ah well, so long old friend... :vibes:

    On another note, has it occurred to anybody else that since these products have been so easily available for the past while, a lot of people who might otherwise never have gone to the effort of seeking out a little bag of white powder to go up their nose, will have now become accustomed to it and will be tempted to seek out similar, illegal, substances from shadier sources?

    Seems like a fair line of reasoning to SWIM.
  10. John Doe
    Appendix - List of Legal High Substances in Government Order
    The following substances and products:

    Synthetic Cannabinoids:
    [2,3–Dihydro–5–methyl–3–(4–morpholinylmethyl)pyrrolo[1,2,3–de]–1,4–benzoxazin–6–yl]–1–naphthalenylmethanone
    3–Dimethylheptyl–11–hydroxyhexahydrocannabinol
    9-(Hydroxymethyl)–6,6–dimethyl–3–(2–methyloctan–2–yl)–6a,7,10,10a–tetrahydrobenzo[c]chromen–1–ol
    [9–Hydroxy–6–methyl–3–[5–phenylpentan–2–yl]oxy–5,6,6a,7,8,9,10,10a-octahydrophenanthridin–1–yl]acetate
    Any substance structurally derived from 3–(1–naphthoyl)indole or 1H–indol–3–yl–(1–naphthyl)methane by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring by alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2–(4–morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the indole ring to any extent and whether or not substituted in the naphthyl ring to any extent.
    Any substance structurally derived from 3–(1–naphthoyl)pyrrole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the pyrrole ring by alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2–(4–morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the pyrrole ring to any extent and whether or not substituted in the naphthyl ring to any extent.
    Any substance structurally derived from 1–(1–naphthylmethyl)indene by substitution at the 3–position of the indene ring by alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2–(4–morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the indene ring to any extent and whether or not substituted in the naphthyl ring to any extent.
    Any substance structurally derived from 3–phenylacetylindole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring with alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2–(4–morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the indole ring to any extent and whether or not substituted in the phenyl ring to any extent.
    Any substance structurally derived from 2–(3–hydroxycyclohexyl)phenol by substitution at the 5–position of the phenolic ring by alkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl or 2–(4–morpholinyl)ethyl, whether or not further substituted in the cyclohexyl ring to any extent.

    BZP Derivatives:

    1-Benzylpiperazine or any substance structurally derived from 1–benzylpiperazine or 1–phenylpiperazine by modification in any of the following ways -
    (i) by substitution at the second nitrogen atom of the piperazine ring with alkyl, benzyl, haloalkyl or phenyl groups;
    (ii) by substitution in the aromatic ring to any extent with alkyl, alkoxy, alkylenedioxy, halide or haloalkyl groups.

    Mephedrone & related Cathinones:

    1-(1,3-Benzodioxol-5-yl)-2-(1-pyrrolidinyl)-pentanone
    1-(2-Fluorophenyl)-2-methylaminopropan-1-one
    1-(3-Fluorophenyl)-2-methylaminopropan-1-one
    1-(4-Fluorophenyl)-2-methylaminopropan-1-one
    Methcathinone
    1-(4-Methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)propan-1-one
    2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)butan-1-one
    2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)propan-1-one
    1-(4-Methylphenyl)-2-methylaminopropan-1-one

    GBL & 1,4 BD:

    Butan-1,4-diol
    Dihydrofuran-2(3H)-one (otherwise known as gamma-Butyrolactone)
    This legislation also controls any stereoisomeric form of these substances, esters and ethers (where appropriate), salts, and preparations or products containing any proportion of these substances.

    http://www.dohc.ie/press/releases/2010/20100511.html
  11. ianzombie
    All Dublin shops Swim went to were shut or had removed all products for sale untill they are sure they know what they can stock. The best news Swim heard was that a certain chain wont be opening again.....although its a bit late for that now.
  12. readeadamie
    SWIM can't believe this! Does that list of synthetic cannabinoids above cover all of the commonly available ones? Or are there any that the ban has missed. It seems like they probably have them all covered but SWIM really can't make any sense of that mess of chemistry jargon. What about things like Salvia divinorum, Kratom, Krypton or DMAA? Are they still legal or are headshops no longer allowed to sell anything "drug-like"?
  13. John Doe
    The list above is the definitive list... for now. I imagine when they finish this crazy 'catch all' bill Salvia and Kratom will be included.

    To avoid confusion I'd just like to mention that Salvia and Kratom are not Synthetic Cannabinoids, far from it =)
  14. Erumelithil
    As far as SWIM could make out, Salvia was not implicitely covered. However, that won't stop the Gardaí seizing that along with anything else vaguely "herblike" in appearance.
  15. lulz
    Illegal drug dealers all across Ireland must be celebrating tonight, the head shops loss will be the dealers' gain. And I'm sure there will soon be dealers offering synthetic cannabinoids among their wares. =/
  16. chillinwill
    Irish sellers of "legal highs" face life in jail

    Ireland's government approved tough new legislation Tuesday to crack down on "legal highs" available at so-called 'head shops' by threatening operators of the popular stores with life imprisonment. Under the new legislation, the sale or supply of substances that do not specifically fall under existing drugs legislation, but which have "psychoactive effects" will land users with up to 7 years in prison and suppliers with a maximum life sentence.

    Oddly Enough

    Head shops, which sell a variety of drugs paraphernalia, have thrived in recession-hit Ireland by selling substances often dubbed "legal" or "herbal" highs.

    With some other countries are mulling legalizing certain drugs, critics of the new Irish legislation said it could drive users to try and get "legal high" drugs via the Internet or on the black market.

    "That is a matter for the police," Prime Minister Brian Cowen told reporters after announcing the new measures.

    Such drugs are common in Amsterdam's 'smart shops', as are marijuana and hash in the Dutch city's 'coffee shops' while other countries in Europe have sought to ban "legal highs."

    Others are questioning how the group of substances with "psychoactive effects" would be defined.

    "The righteous fuming over these products is never applied in the same way to the products sold in the local pub which are just as lethal and dangerous when misused and abused," Irish Times journalist Jim Carroll said on the newspaper's blog, referring to the consumption of alcohol in bars.

    by Andras Gergely and Padraic Halpin
    May 11, 2010
    Reuters
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64A4RD20100511
  17. savant idiot
    I wonder if they're going to include alcohol on their list.

    Oh, wait, no I don't.
  18. Terrapinzflyer
    To plays devil advocate- this was announced in the beginning of March and was awaiting EU approval- the time frame given at the time was three months- so looks like it got shuffled through a few weeks early.

    Personally- looking back through things its pretty clear this ban would have gone into effect back then had it not required EU approval, and would go into law once that step was completed, not on a specific date.

    maybe a dirty way to play things on the one hand, but on another, it does prevent the huge spike in sales seen just before the UK ban...
  19. BoyInTheCountry
    Anything with 'drug like effects...... hallucenogenic properties...... psychoactive substances' it's all a bit vague and sweeping for my liking, Id say it verges on seriously restricting peoples liberties here, especially if they dont even know what there doing is illegal or not. All seems very unfair and bullshitty. Alcohol fits the description of the stuff their banning.

    Maybe the Irish should boycott buying any booze so the MP's dont get any of that hefty tax. This ofcourse is a joke, and as its in Ireland even more so. Sorry Ive been bashing BNP and UKIP voters all week I had to play on one stereotype, its a friendly one.
    :)

    Anyway yeah this whole thing is a little over the top to be honest, they either need to retract it or tighten it up ALOT.
  20. donville67
    Which one of the above is 3-FMC? Im of the understanding that it is not flephedrone. I think flephedrone is 4-FMC.
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