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  1. BitterSweet
    21148.jpg Seattle police have released previously unseen images showing drug paraphernalia from the scene of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain's suicide 20 years ago.

    Police spokeswoman Renee Witt said that a detective who recently reviewed the Cobain case files found several rolls of undeveloped film that were taken at the suicide scene.

    One image s hows a box containing a spoon and what look like needles on the floor next to half a cigarette and sunglasses.

    The other showed the paraphernalia box closed, next to cash, a cigarette pack and a wallet that appears to show Cobain's identification.

    "There was nothing earth-shattering in any of these images," Ms Witt said.

    Police took another look at the Cobain suicide to be ready to answer questions in connection with next month's anniversary, she said.

    "There's still a lot of interest in this case," she said. "The detective went into the case files to refresh himself. The outcome of the case has not changed."

    Cobain's body was discovered in Seattle on April 8, 1994. An investigation determined that days earlier he had gone into the greenhouse of his large home and taken a massive dose of heroin. He then shot himself with a 20-gauge shotgun.

    Earlier that year, Cobain had tried to kill himself in Rome by taking an overdose of tranquillisers.

    Cobain, who was 27 when he died, sold millions of albums with Nirvana and helped popularise the Pacific Northwest's heavy, "grunge" rock, along with bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Mudhoney.

    Cobain grew up in the logging town of Aberdeen, Washington, about two hours from Seattle. After he died thousands of young people converged on Seattle Centre, near the Space Needle, for a public memorial.

    Though his death was ruled a suicide some refused to believe that, leading to conspiracy theories that Cobain had been killed.

    In a statement from the Seattle Police Department, the detective who re-examined the case dismissed that speculation.

    "Sometimes people believe what they read - some of the disinformation from some of the books, that this was a conspiracy. That's completely inaccurate," said Detective Mike Ciesynski, who found the four rolls of undeveloped crime-scene photos.

    "It's a suicide. This is a closed case."







    Author: Belfast Telegraph
    Date: March 21, 2014


  1. desert flower
    I'm not advocating for a conspiracy,but there's a bit to question if you want to.

    He was missing for eight days.
    In that time,his wife,his mother,several private detectives and the police were apparently"searching" for him.
    He was found in a room above his garage in his own home.By the gas technician.
    There were two sleeping bags in the room he was found,two different brands of cigarettes in the ashtray yet no one has come forward in twenty years.
    That's the evidence released to the public by Seattle police.

    I wouldn't have closed the case.
  2. BitterSweet
    Well, sometime in the past I asked my friend who knows a lot about Kurt Cobain's story about the speculation that it wasn't a suicide. He said the way the gun was held was from a position where it could only have been self inflicted based on how and where his brains were blown up. You could wonder that maybe someone was able to stage it so that it looked like the gun was in deed held in a position where one would be able to hold it while committing suicide, but that would involve somehow holding Kurt still in some position, then holding the gun and shooting.

    So unless he was passed out and didn't know what was happening, thus being completely lifeless and unable to defend himself to the point where one person could hold him up, including his head, and then point the gun so it would ultimately look like he had held it his own hands.. And even then the person doing it would have to be smart enough to think to shoot him in a position where it would look like only he could have shot himself from that position. To do that, it seems like it would involve two people, and Kurt would have to be unable to defend himself, and then whoever was committing the crime would have to shove the gun in his mouth and shoot.

    They would need to get his fingerprints on the gun too in a way that would look like he was holding it, making sure not to get their own prints on. These are the most basic things investigators look at, fingerprints, etc.
    Base it on evidence not speculation.
  3. desert flower
    I'm not saying he didn't kill himself,just that there's someone out there that knows a lot more than anyone else.
    And nothing I said is speculative,they are established facts.
  4. chica
    I do not believe for one minute it was suicide.
    I did all the research,heard the audio tapes of Courtney love,both attorneys,and terry(I think)the detective working on the suicide who was close to Courtney love. how everything happened,and the private investigator who really wanted to re-open the case but it was hush hush.

    there was no fingerprints on the shotgun,not even kurts!the lethal dose of heroin he apparently took was so lethal there is no way he could put everything back in his lil box and pick up that shotgunhe would've been wasted,no?
    im not speculating or accusing anyone,im just going by facts...
  5. Hover
    My take on the matter is that you may be right but the authorities have chosen not to pursue an investigation in that direction. Main reason could simply be lack of sufficient evidence to convincingly ID the supposed missing witness and no absolute need to do it. We're not talking murder suspect here, just someone who may have been with Kobain in the days preceding his suicide. I say suicide because well, the guy was notoriously pathologically depressed, as in mental illness level depressed exacerbated by drug abuse, a truly hopeless case really. A Coroner's report that a death is definitely the result of a suicide usually puts an end to all criminal proceedings.
  6. tidruid
    The guy suffered from depression his whole life. Mix depression with drug addiction and it is no surprise that he took his own life. I know that there is some evidence that he was murdered but I think people would rather believe that he was murdered instead of taking his own life. It is just another conspiracy like the ones that say elvis never died and is still alive somewhere...or tupac is still alive..or paul McCartney actually died in the 60s and was replaced by a body double. So many wacky theories exist for iconic musical artists..
  7. rawbeer
    And worth noting that Cobain's closest friends and associates believe he committed suicide. And that faking a suicide by intentionally overdosing the guy would have been much easier, less messy and perhaps more believable. If they injected him with heroin to incapacitate him (as the conspiracy would have it) in order to shoot him...why? Why not just give the guy a hot shot and call it a day?

    But Courtney Love does suck, regardless.
  8. tatittle
    I heard he did like 4 "doses" of heroin in the shot, which wouldn't be a lot for an addict with a habit. He had been in detox but not for very long so his tolerance wouldn't have gone down much if at all.
    I haven't seen anything that makes me doubt he shot himself; I have known people far less depressed and reckless than he appeared to be that shot themselves. Plus he bought the gun and bullets.
  9. Petri6
    I think that the theory of a massive heroin overdose is overlooking the fact that you can really push your opioid tolerance as high as you have resources to do and Kurt Cobain did certainly have the resources to nurse a massive opioid habit. I mean, I took enough methadone today to kill three to five non-tolerant individuals, yet I'm sitting here writing this message only slightly impaired.
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