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'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, Spice Gold

  1. chillinwill
    From: http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public Affairs Info/Archive News Pages/2008/080919-order.html

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa (September 19, 2008)[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular] -- In response to a growing trend of abusing legally obtained substances to produce mind-altering experiences, Marine Corps Bases Japan Order 5355.1 was implemented Sept. 10. The new order prohibits the use, possession and distribution of certain substances marketed as "legal highs," base officials announced recently.

    [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]These substances, which can be ingested or smoked, include: salvia divinorum, mitragyna speciosa korth, spice, blue lotus, convolvulaceae argyreia nervosa, lysergic acid amide, amanitas mushrooms, datura, absinthe and 5-MEO-DMT.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]These substances can produce similar effects as marijuana or lysergic acid diethylamide, commonly known as LSD.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The new order supplements Secretary of the Navy Instruction 5300.28D, which prohibits abusing lawful substances, such as cough syrup, edge dressing and keyboard cleaner to produce "intoxication, excitement, or stupefaction of the central nervous system." Both MCBJO 5355.1 and SECNAVINST 5300.28D are lawful general orders punishable under Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Violators are subject to administrative action, court-martial or both.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The maximum punishment for violating either order is dishonorable discharge, confinement for two years, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and reduction to E-1. Violators can also be processed for administrative separation and receive an other than honorable discharge.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The Marine Corps is taking a zero-tolerance stance on the use and possession of these substances since they are prejudicial to good order and discipline and can be dangerous, officials said.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The new order also applies to non-military Status of Forces Agreement personnel and contractors supporting MCBJ. Although not subject to criminal prosecution, SOFA personnel and contractors could face debarment and loss of command sponsorship for violating the order, officials said.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The driving force behind the new order, officials stated, is to eliminate any uncertainty that substances used to get "high" are prohibited. Enforcement of this new order will help to maintain a positive, disciplined atmosphere on Okinawa. The prohibited substances create a detrimental impact on the Marine Corps' mission on Okinawa and could adversely affect the Corps' relationship with the Japanese population it supports, in addition to being physically harmful to users.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]"Any substance abuse can affect individual and unit readiness," said John Velker, the director of the Marine Corps Community Services Substance Abuse Counseling Center.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Velker went on to say substance abuse is typically triggered by unresolved personal issues in the user's life, creating a desire to experience alternate states of consciousness. He stated personnel should seek counseling for trying to deal with things individually.
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]"There is a better way to live and deal with frustration than trying to get high."[/FONT]


  1. Heretic.Ape.
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    And so continues the heroic and unending task of protecting people from themselves and the horrible threat of getting high.

    Man, a buddy of monkey's was telling him how he and other guys in Iraq would be frying on acid and shit while out in war zones. That sounds like a BAD trip, says monkey.
  2. Benga
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    Okinawa ? don't get it. does the US Marine corps have its own legal system distinct from that of the USA or the country where the US bases are ( ie Japan in this case ?)

    beyond the absurdity of the contents, this is pretty obscure at first sight.

  3. guldenat
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    Yes, the military has a different set of laws than civilians in the USA, called The Uniform Code of Military Conduct. At this point, the US Air Force still has no regulations on 'legal highs' such as Salvia, and I think it is the last branch to lack regulation in this area.
  4. cosmicruler
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    is this because the CIA doesnt control the market on these substances andtherefore cant make billions of dollars from it like heroin and coke!?

    how about we send them all to afghanistan and get em all hooked on heroin,just like what happened in vietnam,and then heres the brilliant part,we steal all the telebans heroin(because theyre terrorists)and then we ship it home and we sell it back to our now addicted ethnic troops at vastly inflated prices!!!


    And all the while the troops no doubt are being encouraged to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes......ridiculous!

    cosmicruler added 4 Minutes and 53 Seconds later...

    "There is a better way to live and deal with frustration than trying to get high."

    like what??

    join the millitary,and eat,sleep and shit when ya told,watch ya friends and colleagues lose limbsand lifeand possibly end updead ina war that no1other than the president himself believes in!!!??

    think id rather get high thanks.

  5. Spare Chaynge
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    This is probably because nobody wants the guy who has the lock and key to the armory hopt up on 2c-e.
  6. cosmicruler
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    given the fact the US and Canadian air force feed there pilots on Amphetamine,and british troops were subjected to LSD field trials in the 50s,why not have a few crazy mofos running into battle tripping balls on datura...?surely they cant do much worse than they have already been doing in Iraq and Afghanistan..
  7. Spare Chaynge
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    Swim totally disagrees. The effects of amphetamines are productive on the battle field.. Except for that one incident..
    And the field trials were just that field trials.. probably had something to do with seeing what it would do to an enemy army.

    "why not have a few crazy mofos running into battle tripping balls on datura.""

    is swiy kidding... Think about that lets give the guy with the heavy machine gun a drug known to produce hallucinations that to the person experiencing them are real.

    It is not productive to the war machine at all.. Amphetamines keep people alert for long periods of time .. and in proper dosages and time frames, paranoia and hallucinations can be kept to a min.
  8. Panthers007
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    The new Lieutenant in the army in Vietnam would come to take charge of his assigned unit. Fresh from West Point - clean-shaven and full of ideas! Oh boy! A command of his very own! "Put out that marigeewanna, boy!"

    That night, a grenade would roll under his bunk.

    The new Lieutenant in the army in Vietnam...
  9. bcubed
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    I'm not really sure from the description "Marine Corps Bases Japan": does this apply ONLY to Marines in Japan, to ALL Marines, or to the Navy, too (because the Marines are--as much at it may pain them to say--part of the USN)?
  10. NeuroChi
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    Do tell, what commercial markets does the CIA control?
  11. Alfa
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    SECNAV instruction 5300.28D is part of US navy protocol and therefore not restricted to Japan.
    It seems that quite a few Marines have been caught using these substances.
  12. doggy_hat
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    I hate how they always use the abuse, and say that they can't let people use such destructive ways to deal with problems, if someone uses a relatively safe substances in there free time. Yet alcohol use is just drinking and nothing more, until an alcoholic gets to the point of physically abusing others and practical drinking to death. And even when it does get to that point, you can just go to AA, but if it's anything else your the scourge of society and must be locked up.
  13. cosmicruler
    Re: Legal highs' legal no longer

    its called sarcasm!:vibes::applause::crazy

    the war in Iraq and Afghanistan are NOT productive at all,other than boosting the US economy!
    Feeding troops up on Amphetamine whether controlled or not will lead to problems in later life for those effected when its being administered not for medical reasons but for economic gain!
    SWIM disagrees totally with the whole 'terrorism' thing and believes that George W is the biggest and only terrorist and should be publicly executed for war crimes against civillian targets!!

    swims 2c.:eek:

    cosmicruler added 2 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...

    "The new order supplements Secretary of the Navy Instruction 5300.28D, which prohibits abusing lawful substances, "

    Wine and beef contain GHB,so when will they be banned??
  14. Spare Chaynge
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    Swiy misunderstood my point. Swim was not saying that the war is productive. Swim was saying that amphetamines are productive to the war machine. Swim did not state that feeding pilots amphetamines is productive for there family life or social life. Swim stated that feeding pilots amphetamines is productive to the war machine.. Long range bombing missions ect.
  15. fiveleggedrat
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    So are they testing for the mentioned substances? Was not aware there are common tests for most if not all. Are they doing some GCMS shit?

    Really think it's interesting that the military is the first to make any statement in the US regarding datura/kratom, never heard of those illegal or problematic anywhere in the US.
  16. Alfa
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    Since the army is testing for controlled substances, it is only logical that army personal is using legal alternatives a lot. It is easy to imagine that use of legal highs will have been encountered by army staff. AFAIK army personal tends to unload / party heavily. Even though they have instructions not to cause problems, this can lead to strange & embarrassing situations.
  17. daggors
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular] " stupefaction of the central nervous system."

    feds have obviously been on ALOT of that shit to make words like that up?
  18. guldenat
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    Ironically, it is often easier for army personnel to find cocaine and heroin on a military site than it is to find alcohol, particularly if the installation stops selling at an early hour. Unfortunately, as far is this sort of thing goes, military high ups tend to be just as or more conservative than their civilian counterparts.
  19. Panthers007
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    I lived in a town next to an air-base. The high-ups there didn't use street drugs. They came back with monkey's on their backs from Vietnam - and the local police department kept them in a steady supply of pharmaceutical narcotics. Nice and clean - no muss - no fuss.

    Just Say No!
  20. Jamesthebluewolf
    Re: 'Legal highs' banned by US navy: kratom, salvia, etc

    This is good, actually. Its nice to know that the military is made to be ready and alert if there is an emergency.

    Now for civilians...smoke it up!
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