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Lily Allen’s dad to take drugs on live telly

By source, Jul 15, 2012 | Updated: Jul 29, 2012 | | |
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  1. source
    SINGER Lily Allen’s dad Keith has agreed to take a cocktail of Class A drugs on live TV.
    Pals of the ex-hellraiser, who has admitted drug use in the past, say he “can’t wait to get stuck in”.
    The 59-year-old comic, who played the Sheriff of Nottingham in BBC drama Robin Hood, will appear in Channel 4’s Drugs Live, which examines the effects of recreational drugs.
    A source said: “Keith has a history of drug use and knows very well the highs and lows. He’s agreed to take part because he thinks Channel 4’s show is an important forum for looking at what it means to take drugs — and the effects they have.
    “He cannot wait to get stuck in. Who knows what’ll happen?”
    Keith is one of several stars approached by the series, which screens in the autumn.
    C4 bosses claim the show will be a serious look at drugs such as cocaine, marijuana and ecstasy. Participants will take controlled substances “under strict medical supervision and in a controlled clinical environment” — while their reactions are filmed.
    C4 chief David Glover said: “This subject is fraught with controversy and confusion The aim is to bring new clarity to the facts of illegal drug use.”

    By COLIN ROBERTSON

    Published: 15th July 2012 at 01:00
    Original news atricle here

Comments

  1. profesor
    I'm willing to bet he has "a bad reaction" (he gets pale and sweaty) and maybe gets led away on the attending doctors' advice. I assume they will publicize the presence of medical professionals there. But it won't be anything real, like a seizure. I'm American, and not too familiar with British TV, but I don't think a major media outlet would showcase someone just relaxed and having a good time. They will use it as anti-drug propaganda.
  2. Bad Rabbits
    ^ Nah... I don't see Channel 4 having a hidden agenda here, they did a good 3 part series which was very much anti drugs war... "Our Drugs War".

    On the whole we don't do too badly with the media here in the UK.

    Keith Allen is very open about his "past" drug use. I can't say I'm the biggest fan of Lily Allen, but you should check out one of her tunes "Everyone's at it"... a good tune about how drug use is everywhere, accept it.
  3. source
    I'm actually quite looking foward to this programme being shown and hope that C4 will show both sides of using recreational drugs. Not sure how they will be able to do this though... majority of viewers will be straight - and from my experience being straight and watching someone 'off their head' isn't a good experience lol.
    One might have to do a bit of audience participation :D
  4. Aberdonian
    channel 4 will tell it as it is,keith allen is well known for his abuse of drugs, when lily first hit big and she was asked on tv what she was gonna do with the money,she replied gonna get a load o gak(coke) and celebrate and keith told her just to stay away from the brown, cant wait to watch this!
  5. Aberdonian
    yeah sounds good source,id love to be wasted in the audience lol, pick u up on the way?
  6. source
    Yeah sure, why not! 15 minutes of fame and all that, would definitely make for a damn good programme!! Might be able to steal the limelight from old Keith Allen :p
  7. Phenoxide
    More discussion of this project dating back to when it was first announced can be found here: Channel 4 to air live drug-taking.

    Will be interesting to see how the final product compares to that which was originally pitched. I thought at the time that in the hands of Channel 4 this ran the risk of turning into something "grotesque and exploitative" rather than something genuinely educational and progressive. Casting a D-list celebrity in the guinea pig role doesn't do much to dispel those concerns. I can already hear David Cameron commenting on this in Prime Minister's questions and criticizing Channel 4 for trivializing drug use.

    I'd wager that David Nutt will make an appearance at some point. And when are they going to announce that it'll be hosted by Jimmy Carr? :)
  8. Aberdonian
    ha i bet nutt will be involved somehow, and the doc will be chris whatever his name is from embarrasing bodies, wonder what other celebs will be on,id love to see pete doherty in it!
  9. source
    God, I can see it now... Keith Allen, Pete Doherty, Russell Brand and Kate Moss.....
  10. Aberdonian
    shame kurt cobain and amy winehouse couldnt be there! :(
  11. C11H15
    What drugs do you reckon hell be 'given'? The usual class A's, but how about the psychedelics? The nation will see some man tripping balls on live tv? I think it will scare the nation because they'll see how different it really is. They won't understand, so they'll laugh and become prejudice.
  12. Aberdonian
  13. source
    Keith Allen defends "radical" drugs documentary

    Another article today, Keith Allen appeared on ITV1's This Morning:

    Keith Allen has defended a forthcoming Channel 4 series in which he is filmed taking drugs.

    The musician and actor took MDMA, the pure form of ecstasy, for the upcoming documentary to examine its effects.
    Health campaigners said the show ran the risk of being "voyeuristic" and "unrepresentative".
    But the 59-year-old actor and musician said the documentary was designed as a "forensic analysis" into the physical and psychological effects of drugs.
    Called Drugs Live, the "radical" four-part series aims to examine the claims and counterclaims made about recreational drugs by testing them in a monitored environment.
    TV bosses at Channel 4 said the series, to be broadcast in the autumn, would "provide viewers with unmediated access to a live drug trial".

    Speaking on ITV 1's This Morning, Allen said it was "insane" to suggest the show glamorised drug use.
    "If you think that I'm glamorising the taking of drugs by spending an hour and 20 minutes for two consecutive Mondays in an MRI scanning machine, then you're insane.
    There were policemen taking part. There were definitely soldiers, people who'd never taken it before. It's a very, very forensic analysis, a neurological analysis of the effects of MDMA." "Voyeuristic"
    But Simon Antrobus, Chief Executive of the drugs charity, Addaction, said the programme risked being voyeuristic, and "ultimately unrepresentative of some of the wider realities of drug taking".
    "There are a lot of associated risks with taking street MDMA. Not least the fact that you can never be sure what it is you've bought.
    "As an example, we are currently hearing reports of 'Pink Ecstasy', which contains a highly toxic drug that is closer in make up to 'Crystal Meth' than it is to ecstasy.

    "So, we wouldn't want anyone to come away from the programme thinking that MDMA is benign," he said.
    Mr Antrobus said he hoped Channel Four provided a balanced view and included an insight into how all drugs can cause problems for people.
    "We believe that this is a more interesting and worthwhile story," he added.
    "Controversial" The Transform Drug Policy Foundation also voiced concerns about the show, saying they were "not convinced" it was the right way to explore drug taking.
    "There are lots of important issues around drug use in popular culture, said a spokesperson.
    "From previous attempts, footage of people taking drugs is usually quite dull and probably unenlightening."

    The study is being conducted by Professor David Nutt and Dr Robin Carhart-Harris, at Imperial College London. [edit] no surprise there [/edit]

    Professor Nutt was sacked in 2009 as chairman of the independent Advisory Council on Misuse of Drugs after claiming alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than LSD, ecstasy and cannabis.
    Allen, whose contentious documentary about the BNP leader Nick Griffin aired on Channel Four earlier this year, has long been outspoken about his drug use.
    In 2007 it was reported that he enlisted his daughter, the singer Lily Allen, to help him sell drugs at the Glastonbury Festival when she was a baby.
    He said on This Morning that he would be in favour of drugs being taxed, ensuring their use could be used to support public services.

    Article can be found here from BBC News - 16 July 2012 Last updated at 14:36
  14. source
    More E, vicar? Reverend to take ecstasy on TV for controversial drugs documentary

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    Channel 4 are believed to have already filmed the drug taking, with Lionel Shriver and Keith Allen also taking part.

    A female vicar is set to spark outrage by taking ecstasy on a controversial new Channel 4 programme about drugs.
    The working minister will be joined in the experiment by award-winning author Lionel Shriver who penned bestseller We Need To Talk About Kevin.
    Others who will take 83mg of MDMA, the pure form of ecstasy, include a former MP, an ex-SAS soldier and actor Keith Allen.
    The volunteers will also be given a placebo – fake drugs – as well as the real thing so they don’t actually know when they have taken ecstasy.
    A show source said: “We’ve got a real mix of people taking drugs from all walks of life, it’s going to be like a drugs version of Big Brother and will be must-see TV.
    “Where else would you see a vicar, Keith Allen and an SAS soldier all taking drugs together?”
    Channel 4 are believed to have already filmed the scenes of drug taking at London’s Imperial College under scientific conditions to fulfil Home Office rules.
    The show - called Drugs Live: The Ecstasy Trial - will then feature a “live” studio debate.
    The two part show, which will be presented by Jon Snow and Christian Jessen, will also feature a live debate on the experiments.

    [​IMG] Co-host: Jon Snow will present Drugs Live Participants had to be screened by medics and psychiatrists before giving their fully-informed consent to take part.
    But the show has already prompted anger, with Julia Manning, chief executive of independent think-tank 2020 Health, condemning the idea.
    She said: “The first two words that come to mind are reckless and pointless. We are fully aware of the effects of Class A drugs on the body.
    “This will achieve nothing. If anything it will “celebritise” the taking of illegal substances.
    "This is purely anecdotal. It’s not part of any proper study. It’s publicity-seeking TV at its worst.”
    Simon Antrobus, Chief Executive of the drugs charity, Addaction, said the programme risked being voyeuristic, and “ultimately unrepresentative of some of the wider realities of drug taking”.
    “There are a lot of associated risks with taking street MDMA. Not least the fact that you can never be sure what it is you’ve bought.
    “As an example, we are currently hearing reports of ‘Pink Ecstasy’, which contains a highly toxic drug that is closer in make up to ‘Crystal Meth’ than it is to ecstasy.
    “So, we wouldn’t want anyone to come away from the programme thinking that MDMA is benign,”
    Actor Keith Allen said it was “insane” to suggest the show glamorised drug use.
    He said: “If you think that I’m glamorising the taking of drugs by spending an hour and 20 minutes for two consecutive Mondays in an MRI scanning machine, then you’re insane.
    “There were policemen taking part. There were definitely soldiers, people who’d never taken it before.
    "It’s a very, very forensic analysis, a neurological analysis of the effects of MDMA.”

    Channel 4 Senior Commissioning Editor, David Glover, said: “The use of controlled drugs, including ecstasy, is a hugely important issue and Britain has been called the ‘drug-taking capital of Europe’.
    "But too often the facts – and particularly the science – can become lost in the heat of the argument.
    “These programmes will feature a scientific study that aims to demonstrate the effects of using ecstasy on the brain and behaviour alongside a grown-up debate about the issues raised featuring a wide range of views.
    "This is a programme that only Channel 4 would be brave enough to commission.”
    After taking the drugs, the volunteers will undergo brain scans and series of cognitive tests to examine MDMA’s effects on empathy, trust and memory.
    The scientific study has been designed by two of the world’s leading experts on MDMA, psychopharmacologists Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London and Professor Val Curran of University College London.
    Controversial drugs expert Professor Nutt was sacked in 2009 as chairman of the independent Advisory Council on Misuse of Drugs after claiming alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than LSD, ecstasy and cannabis.
    He has also suggested horse-riding is more dangerous than taking ecstasy and said alcohol consumption in Britain would fall by a quarter if Dutch-style cannabiscoffee shops’ were introduced.
    Defending the experiment Professor Nutt said: “Nearly half a million people are believed to take ecstasy or MDMA every year in the UK, but there has been very little research into what it does in the brain.
    “This is the first study that will involve brain scans of people taking MDMA while not performing any tasks.
    "Imaging technology has improved enormously recently, so these experiments will give us a much clearer picture of the fundamental effects of MDMA on the resting brain than anyone has been able to get before.”

    Original article is here - By Mark Jefferies, Daily Mirror 19th July 2012.
  15. geezaman
    :( I believe you speak the truth.

    Snufkins experience of state provided drugs education (ending circa 2006) left him with the impression that "drugs"= criminality, addiction, crying family and a premature & painful death.
    It would be nice if this programme took a less scaremongering approach which their independence just might allow them to do.

    Personally Snufkin would certainly not want to be one of their guinea-pigs. Mind altering drugs in a cold clinical setting with MRI etc being conducted does not sound fun, infact it sounds uncomfortable and distressing.

    Snufkin wonders whether they will consider/discuss any differences between their test setting and a "normal situation" in which individuals might take recreational drugs. If they do Snufkin will be expecting a wander down the MDMA, overheating, water intoxication path again.

    Its certainly good to see Jon Snow opposed to Jimmy Carr or Justin Lee Collins it suggests the show is being aimed higher rather than lower. Interesting to read one of the participants (Lionel Shriver) is an author... perhaps if we are lucky she will provide some qualitative "doors of perception" esque commentary on the experience.... if we are lucky
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