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Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore gums

By Alfa, Jul 10, 2008 | | |
  1. Alfa
    Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore gums

    A man died from drinking vast amounts of cold water to relieve painful gums.

    Andrew Thornton, 44, ‘ overloaded’ his body after drinking ten litres – more than 17 pints – in eight hours. He had also been drinking at a similar rate for the previous two days as it helped to numb his mouth, an inquest heard. The divorcee, who played football regularly and was physically active in his job as a warehouseman, thought he was being sensible by refusing to take painkillers for gum disease.

    He was taken to hospital last December after collapsing at the home he shared with his mother Alice, 65, and her partner in Bradford. Doctors initially thought he was drunk because he was staggering and slurring his words. However his symptoms were caused by swelling in the brain brought on by excess fluid. Doctors put salt back into his body to counter the effects of his water intake, but the following day he had a fatal heart attack.

    Pathologist Dr Alan Padwell told the Halifax inquest: ‘He claimed drinking water relieved the problems with gum trouble, though he vomited a lot afterwards. ‘He had been drinking an awful lot of water and vomiting. He had overloaded with water. ‘Your body tells you how much you need. Eat and drink normally and your body will regulate itself.’ Coroner Mark Hinchliffe recorded a verdict of death by misadventure and concluded Mr Thornton died of a heart attack triggered by over-consumption of water.

    Mrs Thornton said: ‘He couldn’t walk straight and his right arm had gone limp and was hurting him. 'But we had a look at him and realised he hadn't touched any alcohol – something was just terribly wrong.’ After the inquest Mrs Thornton warned of the dangers of drinking too much water. She said: ‘Andrew wasn’t a stupid man and if he had known how dangerous drinking that much was, he wouldn’t have done it.’

    Water overdose dilutes vital salt levels in the blood. Cells and organs then swell and increased pressure in the brain can result in the body shutting down. Mrs Thornton said her son had suffered from pain in his mouth for many years but had never gone to a dentist for treatment. He used mouthwash or drank water to soothe the pain.

    Last year two people died in the UK from hyponatremia or a water overdose. Fitness instructor David Rogers, 22, died in April after completing his first London Marathon. Last September Shaun McNamara, 35, was found dead in the bathroom of his York home as a result of excess water drinking.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...drinking-17-pints-hours-soothe-sore-gums.html

Comments

  1. Jamesdafourth
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    most interesting.
  2. augentier
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Prohibit it. Plain and simple. And please, talk to your kids about water..or some one else will.
  3. enquirewithin
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Water is dangerous! It kills people.

    You are supposed to drink 3 litres per day, but 10 litres is too much.
  4. Panthers007
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Some folks retain water in their tissues - often linked to hypertension. So there is no actual figure for how much is right. It has to be individualized. But 10 liters in 8 hours?? Maybe if you are a large scallop...

    At least this one wasn't blamed on MDMA.
  5. zera
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Actually a couple weeks back when I had to get an emergency root canal I was in the same exact position. The only thing I could do to make my tooth better was swish cold water on it, up to the point where I had to take swigs every 30 seconds. I just spit it out thought, instead of swallowing...

    It seems that this might have a lot to do with Britain's lack of dentists. Shouldn't this man just have seen a dentist? Luckily in America we're working to put ourselves in the same place, the number of dental school graduates has remained constant since 1980, while the population has surged. For the first time in American history dental health is getting worse, not better.
  6. Paracelsus
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Ahem... drug news?
  7. Jamesdafourth
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    erm, he was making a point about people demonizing drugs.
    don't get me wrong, I don't do drugs at all, and don't think anyone should use them in excess. Their simply not healthy.
  8. ShawnD
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    http://www.dhmo.org/truth/Dihydrogen-Monoxide.html
  9. Bajeda
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Water is one hell of a drug!

    Speaking of, I have to- oops, I mean swim has to go meet his water dealer to get a fix right now.
  10. pappascowler
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    i guess they will get this new drug craze illegalized in america soon enough.

    and quite rightly too.
  11. Alfa
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    I was actually doubting between the ecstasy forum and the news forum. As Panthers pointed towards, when users consume dehydrating drugs like MDMA, they can overcompensate by consuming too much water.
  12. zera
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    I hear withdrawal is terrible, ends up killing most users...
  13. bubbly nubs
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    i live in the uk and have never noticed this lack of dentists before..although recently alot of the dentists have refused to opertate under our Nation Health Service. might that be what you mean?
  14. Nature Boy
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Why didn't he just spit the water out instead of swallowing it all?
  15. Coconut
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    I would imagine it's because he didn't know that there was such a thing as a fatal overdose from water.
  16. zera
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Yeah, this type of stories and others I have read are what I was thinking about.

    ROCHDALE, England, May 2 — "I snapped it out myself," said William Kelly, 43, describing his most recent dental procedure, the autoextraction of one of his upper teeth.


    Chris Loufte for The New York Times
    William Kelly, 43, extracted part of his own tooth, leaving a black stump. He plans to pull one more.
    Now it is a jagged black stump, and the pain gnawing at Mr. Kelly's mouth has transferred itself to a different tooth, mottled and rickety, on the other side of his mouth. "I'm in the middle of pulling that one out, too," he said.

    It is easy to be mean about British teeth. Mike Myers's mouth is a joke in itself in the "Austin Powers" movies. In a "Simpsons" episode, dentalphobic children are shown "The Big Book of British Smiles," cautionary photographs of hideously snaggletoothed Britons. In Mexico, protruding, discolored and generally unfortunate teeth are known as "dientes de ingles."

    But the problem is serious. Mr. Kelly's predicament is not just a result of cigarettes and possibly indifferent oral hygiene; he is careful to brush once a day, he said. Instead, it is due in large part to the deficiencies in Britain's state-financed dental service, which, stretched beyond its limit, no longer serves everyone and no longer even pretends to try.

    Mr. Kelly, interviewed in a health clinic here as he waited for his son to see a doctor, last visited a dentist six years ago, in Sussex.

    Since moving to Rochdale, a working-class suburb of Manchester, he has been unable to find a National Health Service dentist willing to take him on.

    Every time he has tried to sign up, lining up with hundreds of others from the ranks of the desperate and the hurting — "I've seen people with bleeding gums where they've ripped their teeth out," he said grimly — he has arrived too late and missed the cutoff.

    "You could argue that Britain has not seen lines like this since World War II," said Mark Pritchard, a member of Parliament who represents part of Shropshire, where the situation is just as grim. "Churchill once said that the British are great queuers, but I don't think he meant that in connection to dental care."

    Britain has too few public dentists for too many people. At the beginning of the year, just 49 percent of the adults and 63 percent of the children in England and Wales were registered with public dentists.

    And now, discouraged by what they say is the assembly-line nature of the job and by a new contract that pays them to perform a set number of "units of dental activity" per year, even more dentists are abandoning the health service and going into private practice — some 2,000 in April alone, the British Dental Association says.

    How does this affect the teeth of the nation?

    "People are not registered with dentists, they can't afford to go private and therefore their teeth are going rotten," said Paul Rowen, the member of Parliament for Rochdale. Rotting teeth and no one to treat them are among his constituents' biggest complaints, up there with gas prices and shrinking pensions. Just 33 percent of the Rochdale population is signed up with a state dentist, down from 58 percent in 1997.

    Nor is the level of care what it might be. The system, critics say, encourages state dentists to see too many patients in too short a time and to cut corners by, for instance, extracting teeth rather than performing root canals.

    Claire Dacey, a nurse for a private dentist, said that when she worked in the National Health Service one dentist in the practice performed cleanings in five minutes flat.

    Moreover, she said, by the time patients got in to see a dentist, many were in terrible shape.

    "I had a lady who was in so much pain and had to wait so long that she got herself drunk and had her friend take out her tooth with a pair of pliers," Ms. Dacey said.

    Some people simply seek treatment abroad.

    "I saw it on the Internet," said Josie Johnson, 42, of London, describing how she heard about a company called Vital Europe, which offers dental-and-vacation packages to Hungary. "It's a quite small country, and I thought, they specialize in dentistry — so that's what I might do."

    The dentists she consulted in London told her the four implants she needs would cost 8,000 to 10,000 pounds ($14,900 to $18,600); similar treatment in Budapest costs 3,200 to 4,400 pounds ($5,900 to $8,200), according to VitalEurope.

    Beyond that, she said, "I can make a holiday of it."

    In Rochdale, people who have no dentist but who are in dire straits can visit an emergency clinic that very day — provided they can get an appointment. The phones open at 8 a.m.; the books are closed by about 8:10.

    "We see toothaches through trauma, toothaches through neglect, dental caries, dental abscesses, gum disease," said Dr. Khalid Anis, the clinical leader for the emergency facility, the Dental Access Center. "What we see is shocking."

    Dr. Anis enumerated some positive dental developments in Rochdale: a second, soon-to-be-opened clinic; an aggressive community-health program; a political push, finally, to fluoridate the water. But, he said, "sometimes I feel as if I'm hitting my head against a brick wall."

    The waiting room at the center was a testament to his concerns. Sitting by the window was George Glasper, 81. One of Mr. Glasper's teeth had broken off a week earlier, but when he called his dentist, he was told the practice had become a private one. Efforts to sign up with four other dentists failed, he said.

    Nearby sat Shahana Begum, 27, a Bangladeshi immigrant with a bad toothache and no dentist. Her stepdaughter, Sanya Karim, 16, said her family had been trying to find a health service dentist for six years, since moving to Rochdale from Birmingham.

    Occasionally, Miss Karim says, she feels a twinge or an ache, but she tries to ignore it. "It normally goes away in a couple of days," she said.

    In extremis, Britons can always buy dental emergency supplies made by a company called Passion for Health DenTek. These include materials that allow people to replace lost fillings, treat gum pain or reattach cracked crowns "until they can actually get in and see a dentist," said Jennifer Stone, the company's sales and marketing director. Sales in Britain have increased by 40 percent in the last year, Ms. Stone said.

    A recent Guardian newspaper article about the company titled "D.I.Y. Dentistry" (meaning Do It Yourself) said that the previous week British drugstores had sold 6,000 jars of the filling replacement, and 6,000 of the crown-and-cap replacement.

    Ms. Stone, an American, says she is struck by the profound differences in attitudes about dental care in Britain and the United States.

    "Prevention and having nice white shiny teeth is a huge priority for us from the moment we're born," she said. "That doesn't seem to be the culture here. You've got a lot of tea drinkers; you've got a lot of staining. In the U.S., we go through a spool of dental floss in six weeks, on average. Here it's a year and a half."

    Back in Rochdale clinic, Dr. Anis laughed hollowly when the word came up in connection with his patients, who come from some of the area's most deprived neighborhoods. "Floss?" he said. "That's a good one."
  17. sjmar86
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Not too long ago.........this lady died of the same thing. She was trying to win a Wii for her kids.
    A radio station was holding a contest called "Hold your wee for a Wii"
  18. zera
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Yeah every year a couple people always die because of some retarded fraternity pledging task that's some form of the standard lock someone in a room and tell him he can't leave until he finished a couple of gallons of water.
  19. AntiAimer
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    Waters next on the DEAs list.
  20. enquirewithin
    Re: Man dies of water overdose after drinking 17 pints in eight hours to soothe sore

    This is result of years and years of Thatcherism. British dentists are not poor people. The system encourages them to 'go private' and they do. Dr Ans's attitudes say it all. They are the unwashed masses-- laugh at them. No loner a caring profession but a greedy one.

    UK is still the 5th richest country in the world yet can't even provide healthcare for the poor.
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