New plan may help dealers go straight?

By Mick Mouse · Oct 7, 2006 · ·
  1. Mick Mouse
    Tucson Arizona police department plans a new initiative in the next couple of months that will help low level drug dealers get out of the business before they are arrested or have charges filed against them.

    Suspected drug dealers are confronted by family and community members who talk about the negative impact of their behavior, followed by another meeting with law enforcement, at which point the evidence is laid out and an ultimatum is made: stop dealing or face the consequences.

    Those who agree to stop dealing will not have charges filed against them, but will be arrested if they are caught dealing again. The police department will track those who accept the offer and make resources available, such as rehabilitation services, education, and job training.

    This program has been tried in at least 6 cities accross the nation, and Tucson would be the largest city to use it. The focus will be to clean up entire neighborhoods, rather than to take out dealers one or two at a time.

    Sounds like a get out of jail free card to me!

    Source: Arizona Daily

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  1. Trebor
    Yeah, that'll work. Shame they didn't have a program like this for Pablo Escabar.
  2. Pinkavvy
    To me it sounds like a way to bypass "due process" and make investigations easier. Encouraging your family and friends to turn you in to this program, contacting you and basically scaring you into agreeing not to deal anymore by saying they will arrest you if you dont agree (and it seems by making that agreement you are consenting to being watched closely.)

    When in fact if they had enough evidence against you to make an arrest they would have just done it rather than trying to make you agree to being watched more.
  3. Paracelsus
    In fact, they did. At least it was something similar. In the beginning of the 90s, the Colombian Government agreed to make a deal with the bosses of the Cocaine Cartel, including Pablo Escobar Gaviria and Jorge Luis Ochoa. It was more like a ceasefire. The government agreed to reduce/cancel punishments if the masterminds stepped out of the business. And AFAIK, they agreed.

    Back to topic, i think this is something like parole, only you dont get locked up at all. They release the dealer, but he will be watched closely. And if you do something again, they'll lock you up, and probably they wont even need evidence that you dealed, because this isnt justice, its a deal with the government.
  4. Trebor
    Thanks for that information Paracelsus. I'd love to see the Irish Government trey that with some of our Drug Dealers.
  5. Paracelsus
    yr welcome.
    BTW i forgot to mention that this measure of the Colombian Government was taken to reduce the violence that the Cartel leaders have created to consolidate their business. This measure seems illogical if one doesn't look at the situation of the country at that time. Only in the city of Medellin, someone was murdered every 2 hours, most murders commanded by the Cartel. "Rented" guerilla troops attacked government buildings (Palace of Justice,1985) and raided businesses. Street violence and bombing was an everyday situation.
    To end this terror, the government decided to stop their war against the drug dealers and make it easier for them to get out of their business. This deal was heavily criticized by the US Government, who wanted to put his hands on Escobar and Ochoa, because they already had Carlos Lehder locked up and Jose Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha has been killed by the police in 1989.

  6. Trebor
    Well you just keep on giving don't you.
  7. Mick Mouse
    SWIM agrees totally. This sounds almost like an off-shoot of the D.A.R.E. program, if they can't get your kids to turn you in, they try through your family and friends. SWIM would question their method of "tracking" you, would they want regular contact with an officer, random U.A.'s, or what? If you agree to quit under the terms of their offer, there sould not be a legal reason for them to require such a contact. SWIM would think that there may be a civil rights violation inherant in this, unless there is some sort of written agreement, such as a probation contract or something similar.
  8. Mick Mouse
    SWIM also wonders how this would affect the prosecution of offenses over the threshhold level, as compaired to those under the limit. In Arizona and using meth as an example, anything 11 grams or over is no longer considered possession, but possession with intent to sell. If one gets caught with over 11 grams and it is automaticaly assumed that one is selling, would this new plan allow one to avoid a sales charge and get simply possession or would you get the same deal as those charged for sales under the limit?
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