Nicotine Infused Dishes Added to Menus

By Potter · Aug 12, 2009 · ·
  1. Potter
    State Smoking Bans Inspire Restaurants and Bars to Serve Nicotine Fare

    Bar and restaurant patrons in New York, California, Delaware and Florida have had some months to get used to state smoking bans — but business owners are looking to make the transition a little easier with nicotine-infused dishes and drinks.

    Fabio Granato, co-owner of New York City's Serafina Sandro restaurant, says his waiters offer a new tobacco section on their tradtional menu.

    Granato said it provides options for die-hard smokers who want to keep their usual corner seats and still get their nicotine rush.

    "Everybody was upset about the fact that they cannot smoke in New York, in the restaurants, they really were upset," Granato said.

    Ban Opens Door to New Money-Making Trend

    Granato worked with chef Sandro Fioriti to create the special menu which features everything from a hearty tobacco pasta sauce to a delicate tobacco panna cotta for dessert.

    "It's a spice that nobody ever used into food," Granato said. "It does absolutely taste good."

    Steve Podell, a fan of Sandro's nicotine gnocchi, says such dishes could replace the need for other less-exciting smoking crutches.

    "For me this replaces the patch," Podell said of Sandro's gnocchi. "Don't know about others but for me it does."

    If smokers are still craving a cigarette after their meal, Granato says they can try the reataurant's tobacco grappa. It's created from grappa that's soaked in tobacco leaves for 40 days, and Granato says it might be an acquired taste.

    "The food is for mild smokers, the grappa is for serious smokers." Granato said.

    Dropping a Drag for a Drink

    Some Manhattan bar owners worked quickly to put out the fire over the ban, which calls for fines and even closure of restaurants that allow smoking. They worked to create cocktails that would quench smokers' thirst for nicotine.

    Bartender Nicholas Bronte says New York City's Mayor, Mike Bloomberg, was the Suba bar's inspiration for the "nicotini."

    "The inspiration of this drink came from Bloomberg directly," Bronte said. "He said no smoking allowed. So we said, 'Oh yeah. Well, we will see.'"

    The drink contains vanilla, Kahlua, a little bit of tobacco tea, which is made from rolling tobacco.

    "It's sort of like two in one," said Suba owner Yann de Rochefort. "You do get a buzz of alcohol and a buzz of nicotine out of a drink."

    Some nicotini drinkers have described the cocktail as "spicy." Others say it has a caramel flavor.

    At the World Bar in Trump World Tower, the ironically named "Smokeless Manhattan" is served up to patrons looking for a nicotine fix. It's made with port, scotch and orange bitters, and concocted to taste like a Marlboro Red cigarette.

    Not Just an NYC Trend

    Bars and restaurants outside of New York have also caught onto the trend.

    Larry Wald, the owner of the Cathode Ray Club in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., created his own special brew of nicotinis this summer.

    The trend will likely head overseas when the smoking bans finally make their way to Europe.

    Ireland is expected to become the first European country to ban smoking in its pubs early next year.

    ABCNEWS' Lara Spencer reported this story on Good Morning America.

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  1. Piano_man
    Swim is suspicious about this story

    Swim is quite sure nicotine causes irritation to the throat and stomach when swallowed. That is why there is no such thing as a nicotine tablet and swiy never hears about tobacco tea.Swim swallowed some of his saliva when he tried nicotine gum and it did indeed sting his throat, enough to make him cough.

    Nicotine containing food would be a disaster.

    Ireland banned smoking in pubs 5 years ago :confused:.
  2. Potter
    The original article was only dated "august 17th" I know I first got wind of the Florida bar maybe two years ago. I figured it's either from the not to distant yet apparently VERY different future, or it's a bit old. Either way it's too crazy not to post, plus I wanted it for the discussion mentioned below.

    I suspect it is probably in VERY small quantities, oral ingestion has some issues... to say the least, there is further elaboration in this thread. I can not in any way shape or form recommend people experimenting with this. You're lucky if you get away with an immediate vomit, tobacco is not hard to OD on orally and as discussed in the thread, often people will black out THEN vomit... that's how Rock Stars die. Oral nicotine has a very small therapeutic index, the amount of nicotine in 5 cigarettes will kill a healthy adult.
  3. Sven99
    Well, its healthier than smoking. Though personally i'm surprised tobacco vaporisers haven't caught on as an alternative.
  4. chibi curmudgeon
    This will totally end well.

    With someone being particularly sensitive, or taking an enzyme inhibitor, and they'll get violently ill and sue.

    :applause: Bravo, you stupid trendy shits. Just reading the words "tobacco grappa" made me nauseous. "Acquired taste?" I can't even imagine how disgusting it must be.
  5. shhpongebob
    I have to say i did read this with the disgust mentioned previously. sounds gross, and i also had some thoughts about how if you would OD if you just plain ate a cigar.

    why not just eat and then go smoke? or take a smoking break after the appetizer or something, i dont know. or just order pizza. or dont smoke!

    sounds gross, adding to alcohol sounds not so good idea. who really kinda buys this stuff anyway? i picture like motercycle gang memebers or someting, or a wierd crazy eccentric i dont know old person. how about you guys?
  6. Greenport
    This is bound to fail miserably.
  7. Boca Bitch
    As Potter mentioned... there is a very, very small therapeutic window..

    I would feel very much uneasy consuming a plate that contains nicotine. I mean how many mgs. per serving are in it... is it weighed out, or just eyeballed? I'm sure for liability purposes it's a small dosage, but what's to say someone won't make a mistake? We are only human after all, and without pharmaceutical experience it can be difficult to measure out exact doses correctly. Nicotine is an extremely toxic alkaloid, one that really shouldn't be fucked with.

    Not a risk I'd be willing to take.
  8. Birkill
    Ah fuk it swim would definatly just at least try it, sounds kinda......i duno, jus sumin to be tried once init!
  9. x2thez53913
    That proposes to large of a liability to the given parties. Nicotine is not something to consume like that. Not to mention its doing something wierd in the body if you take it while eating.
  10. x2thez53913
    Re: Swim is suspicious about this story

    SWIM disagrees, there is not a such thing as a tablet because it would take to long for the body to break down and absorb. People can consume nicotine gum and nicotine lozegnes which in most cases create heart burn and taste horrible. when you puff on a cig the smoke and nicotine makes contact with the throat.
  11. drug-bot
    sounds like good idea to swim, hope that stuff makes its way up to restraunts here in massachussettes so swim can try it. if ones already a nicotine addict one shouldnt knock it till they try it (obviously not for non nicotine addicts).
  12. Potter
    When Smoke Gets in Your Pies (and Other Delectables)

    WHEN New York's new antismoking law takes effect on Sunday, covering bars, restaurants and other workplaces, Anthony Bourdain knows where he will be. Mr. Bourdain, a multiplatform food celebrity and occasional chef at Les Halles, has been seen without a cigarette, but only on rare occasions. ''I've resolved myself to huddling in doorways in the cold and rain with the rest of the despised minority,'' he said.

    Mr. Bourdain envisioned a city in which nicotine-deprived drinkers will flood into quiet residential streets, hysterical, in need of a fix -- much like the cast in Allen Ginsberg's ''Howl,'' only perhaps not the best minds of a generation.

    Surely, it doesn't have to be this way. New York is not a town for quitters, and it is defeatist to believe that one regulation will change that. If diners and drinkers can't smoke, there are other ways to get a fix.

    For starters, there are alternative sources. Tobacco, or Nicotiana tabacum, belongs to the nightshade family, which includes potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant and red peppers. All contain nicotine. It stands to reason that dishes made with those ingredients could appease the monkey without violating the ban. Unfortunately, the concentration of nicotine in those vegetables is not quite tobacco's level. ''You'd have to eat well over 100 pounds of eggplant or tomatoes to get a meaningful dose,'' said Dr. Jack Henningfield, an addiction expert at the Johns Hopkins Medical School. Even if you love your eggplant Parmesan, that's a tall order.

    Then there is the weed itself. Pre-Columbian societies, which cultivated tobacco centuries before Europeans, brewed it in a tea that induced visions. Jacques Torres, who runs Jacques Torres Chocolate in Brooklyn, advised caution in trying to revive the tradition. ''It can become very unpleasant on your throat,'' he said. Some years ago Mr. Torres made ice cream infused with tobacco, trying to recapture the aromatic richness of a pipe tobacco he had smelled during a childhood ski trip. ''I infused it into milk and cream,'' he said. ''And it was inedible.''

    At the French Laundry in Yountville, Calif., Thomas Keller has had better luck with coffee custard infused with tobacco. ''With a really good mild cigar, you can just infuse it like tea,'' Mr. Keller said. ''Then add your eggs, and there you go.''

    Such dishes are unlikely to put much of a dent in a nicotine jones, Dr. Henningfield said. Anything much stronger, though, could be nauseating and dangerous. ''It's not something you want to fool around with,'' he said. ''It's the equivalent of putting poison in food.''

    Paul Liebrandt, a chef who has worked at Atlas and Chez Es Saada in Manhattan, has experimented with several tobacco recipes, including a foie gras and a granita, in dosages too low to allay the beast but enough to add a smoky, nutty flavor. ''It can be really disgusting if you do it wrong,'' Mr. Liebrandt said. ''But if you blanch the tobacco once or twice to soften the taste, it works really well with fatty foods.''

    Even so, Camel cuisine has an image problem. Craig Shelton, the chef and owner of the Ryland Inn in Whitehouse, N.J., briefly offered gelées infused with tobacco, but stopped because to some customers ''it would be like saying you were cooking with sarin.''

    It seems inevitable that the restless ingenuity that led to Cohiba-smoked yellowtail hamachi or tobacco granita will find a way around such inconveniences as stigma, toxicity and government regulation. Until then, diners can improvise on their own. Minimalists might try the nic and soda: Start with a large soft drink. Roll a transdermal nicotine patch into a straw. Sip.


  13. bigloc
    swim dosnt see this catching on any time soon sounds nasty.
  14. Potter
    So the resturant got panned in a review, fired the chef and closed two months after the original article was printed.
  15. BigPapaLarry
    Figures. Swallowing nicotine gum is enough to make everything swim ate in the past three days to come flyin out his mouth.
  16. anonuser30500
    Sounds pretty grim - tobacco is not a nice flavour as anyone who has ever swallowed some will testify.

    Now if the chef could create a cheeky little aperitif with some hash, that would be a different experience.
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