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Paco - The Cheap Side Product of Cocaine that is Blasting Buenos Aires

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  1. Expat98
    From http://www.sharedresponsibility.gov.co/index.php?idcategoria=690
    [h2]Potent (and Cheap) Side-Product of Cocaine Blasts Buenos Aires[/h2]May 28, 2007


    Tens of thousands of recent drug addicts have overwhelmed Buenos Aires’ health and police services. Experts say the role of Argentina as a cocaine transshipment hub is to blame.


    Compared to Paco, the street name given to the dangerously cut cocaine side-product flowing through Buenos Aires’ streets, crack cocaine is almost a luxury. On top of the toxic mix of chemicals used to turn coca into cocaine, then to cut cocaine to increase profits, Paco contains even more poisonous substances, including glass and dust. Furthermore, it is tremendously addictive and harmful.
    The L.A. Times recently published a story on Paco and how it’s affecting Buenos Aires. This is what some of the victims had to say:
    "So many are lost now."
    "The worst is that the youngest face the same fate unless we can change things."
    "Once you start smoking Paco, that's all you really care about. You don't sleep. You don't eat. You don't feel the cold. Nothing else matters, just your next Paco."
    "The only thing of importance to me was getting high. I didn't care about my mother, my brothers and sister, anything."
    "My son turned into a skeleton. He was a walking corpse."

    Overspill

    Increased enforcement in countries identified as cocaine producers, such as Bolivia, Colombia and Peru, pushed drug trafficking operations into nearby nations. Examples are easy to find. The U.S State Department estimates that 20% of Colombia’s total cocaine output, equal to some 200 metric tons, now ships through Venezuela. Drug fuelled violence in Mexico left a death toll of 1000 during the first four months of 2007, a death count that appears set to overtake the 2000 killed in 2006. Brazil’s favelas are internationally infamous for their drug gangs, so much so that local tour operators have created guided visits of these shanty towns. And, now, Argentina, with its 4,989 km of coastline and major international city of Buenos Aires, is feeling the effects of its increasing role as a transit hub for cocaine coming from Peru and Bolivia.
    According to Dr. Jose Granero, the Director of Sedronar, Argentina’s main anti-narcotics agency, drug traffickers gradually began to move the final processing step to Argentina, where there is a well developed chemical industry. Although still taking place in a much smaller scale than in Colombia, Bolivia or Peru, cocaine processing in Argentina is increasing. More and more, authorities are discovering underground cocaine labs, commonly known as ‘cocinas’, kitchens. And, as a result, Paco abounds in Buenos Aires, especially in the poorer neighborhoods.

    Transshipment creates destinations

    Since the 1980’s a dangerously inexpensive side-product of cocaine called bazuco has claimed the lives of addicts, usually young and poor, throughout South America, a continent known for its role as a producer of cocaine, but not as a consumer.
    However, while consumption in South America is far from what it is in Europe or in the United States, it is nevertheless on the rise. Experts agree that the ready availability of the drug, and its cheap derivatives, is fuelling this trend.
    On every level Paco is bad news -- it is cheaper than bazuco and, some say, deadlier. At less than 1$ per dose, and generating a high of around five minutes, Paco users end up consuming hundreds of doses a day. It’s no wonder then that heavy usage of the cocaine side-product can lead to irreversible brain, respiratory and heart damage in as little as six months.

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  1. Expat98
    Here is the LA Times article about paco that is referenced in the article above. From http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-paco25may25,1,5819223.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


    Buenos Aires Confronts a Drug Plague

    The side-product of cocaine, called Paco, has devastated the city's poor youths. Mothers have begun to fight back.

    By Patrick J. McDonnell, Times Staff Writer
    May 25, 2007

    BUENOS AIRES — The mothers of the neighborhood known as Ciudad Oculta refer to them as "the living dead."

    They are the emaciated, hollowed-eyed young men, specters huddled in corners, darting in and out of alleys, unconscious in debris-strewn lots and squalid homes behind the walls that earned this neighborhood the name "Hidden City."

    Like all children, they once seemed filled with expectations, kicking soccer balls on the windy streets, running off to school with their backpacks, oblivious to the ubiquitous poverty surrounding them.

    "So many are lost now," laments Maria Rosa Gonzalez, steering visitors through the shadowy lanes where police seldom venture, just across from the Argentine capital's main slaughterhouse. "The worst is that the youngest face the same fate unless we can change things."

    The calamity that has struck the Hidden City and other poor communities of Buenos Aires has a name: Paco, a common male moniker that has acquired a sinister second meaning.

    Paco is a potent side-product of cocaine, made from the chemical-laden dregs of the manufacturing process. Experts say it is cheaper, more addictive and more harmful than its comparatively upscale cousin, crack cocaine. Paco contains precious little cocaine, and an abundance of noxious chemicals laced at times with ground glass, dust and other impurities.

    Paco is rammed into homemade pipes fashioned from hollow TV antennas, metal tubes, or aluminum foil, with cigarette ash or steel wool serving as heating agents and filters. Handling the scorching pipes burns the fingers and mouths of regular users. They barely notice.

    "Once you start smoking Paco, that's all you really care about," says Jeremias Albano, 21, Gonzalez's son, who is detoxing after months of abuse that saw him lose more than half his body weight, leaving him at less than 100 pounds. "You don't sleep. You don't eat. You don't feel the cold. Nothing else matters, just your next Paco."

    To feed his habit, Albano stole from his sister and mother and stripped the family refrigerator of metal parts to sell as scrap, he said.

    "The only thing of importance to me was getting high," said Albano, who is back to a strapping 190 pounds and appears physically healthy, if disoriented from extensive post-addiction treatment with psychiatric medications. "I didn't care about my mother, my brothers and sister, anything."

    There are no accurate figures for the number of Paco addicts here, but officials assure it is in the tens of thousands and multiplying fast. A coalition of community-based groups recently estimated that Paco use in this capital had grown fivefold in the last three years. The problem has overwhelmed treatment and law enforcement capabilities.

    "Today, there's not a single [poor] neighborhood where one can't find a dose of Paco," says Sebastian Cinquerrui, a congressman who has studied the issue.

    Paco's devastation in the nether regions of Buenos Aires illustrates the secondary damage of the transnational cocaine industry. Law enforcement authorities say Paco's arrival in the streets here reflected the industry's adaptation to enforcement measures.

    With its Atlantic port and major international airport, Buenos Aires has long been an important hub for Europe-bound cocaine originating in neighboring Bolivia and Peru, where the coca leaf is grown.

    But when crackdowns in Bolivia and Peru reduced availability of chemicals used to produce cocaine, some trafficking organizations moved final production operations to Argentina, which has an advanced chemical industry, a porous border with Bolivia and a notoriously corrupt police force.

    "They decided, let's bring the material to Argentina and finish the processing there," said Dr. Jose Granero, director of the federal government's principal drug-fighting agency, known by its acronym, Sedronar.

    Soon, dealers learned they could sell the byproduct of their cocaine production to the poor.

    Production here takes place on a much smaller scale than in Colombia, Bolivia and Peru, but authorities say it is growing, as evidenced by a sharp increase in the discovery of clandestine cocaine laboratories, known as cocinas, or kitchens.

    Dealers and users often serve as lookouts, informing lab bosses of impending raids.

    "When the forces of security seek to take down a cocina, they have to first pass by the Paco salesmen on the street," notes Cinquerrui. "By the time they get there, often there's no one and nothing left."

    Residents of Ciudad Ocultasay the police enter only in force, and traffickers are well warned. The military dictatorship walled off the eyesore district, then known as Barrio General Belgrano, during the 1978 World Cup, increasing its insularity and earning it the designation Hidden City.

    South America usually is seen as a producer, not a consumer, of illicit drugs. But authorities say no country on the cocaine trail remains immune.

    For years, the youth of Colombia and other coca-growing nations have smoked bazuco, a cheap derivative of cocaine base paste, the first consumable byproduct of the cocaine-production process. Various incarnations of crack cocaine have been a scourge in Brazilian cities since the 1980s.

    Paco is cheaper than crack or bazuco, experts say, often costing less than $1 for a "rock" that provides four to five minutes of euphoria. Regular users smoke hundreds of rocks daily.

    "I know I'm killing myself," says Ernesto, 29, a jittery paquero from Ciudad Oculta who didn't want his last name used. "But Paco just overcomes me. It's something I can't resist."

    The Argentine economic crisis of 2001-02 may have contributed to Paco's rapid growth, officials say. Youths who could no longer afford cocaine or marijuana may have turned to the cheaper and more powerful Paco.

    But Paco, experts say, is extremely addictive and toxic. The drug has been linked to numerous cases of brain lesions, respiratory complications and heart attacks, some of them fatal, doctors here say. Irreversible brain damage can occur within six months of intense use, they say.

    "Paco generates a very strong addiction and a physical deterioration on the part of the consumers that inevitably leaves them dead in a very short time," concluded a congressional report here last year.

    An official here recounted the case of a young girl who died of exposure in downtown Buenos Aires. Paco had dulled her sense of the cold.

    Most users are boys who begin smoking as young as 8 or 9, although the early teen years are a more common starting point.

    Paco use also has spread to middle-class Argentines, who can order by phone, minimizing direct contact with the demimonde. But mostly Paco remains in the realm of the villas, the poor enclaves where law enforcement presence is minimal.

    But mothers soon began casting light into these hidden warrens.

    "My son turned into a skeleton," Gonzalez said of Albano. "He was a walking corpse."

    She and other mothers called in the police but soon were faced with threats from the drug dealers.

    The women were undeterred: They blocked traffic, earning some of the first extensive media coverage of the Paco scourge.

    But the path out of Ciudad Oculta has not been easy. Gonzalez was able to check her son into one of the few treatment facilities available. But his condition deteriorated; doctors were giving him 26 different pills a day. Albano was practically a zombie.

    "I asked, 'What are you treating the boy with?' " she said. "But the psychiatrist at the clinic never bothered to meet with me."

    She placed him in another clinic. He arrived unconscious. She didn't see him for nine days and was terrified. She thought he might be lost.

    Albano eventually came through his treatment intact. He has a voracious appetite, although he seems easily agitated. The family has found a subsidized apartment far from the temptations of Ciudad Oculta.

    The diminutive homemaker's campaign won Gonzalez some fame as the leader of the "Paco mothers."

    Her cellphone often rings with the calls of other despairing parents. She travels from villa to villa trying to help, with little government aid.

    Mostly, she just comforts the mothers. Few have the stamina, willpower or time to confront their children, authorities and dealers in what is an exasperating, long-term campaign.

    Ciudad Oculta can still be alluring to those who've escaped its walls.

    "If I go back inside, I know what will happen," says Ariel Faget, 22, who was raised in the Hidden City. "I'd like to go and see my friends. But I must resist."

    Faget describes himself as a former Paco addict who found the will to quit.

    "The Paco turned me into a nobody," says Faget, well-groomed and clever, sitting on his bicycle outside the walls of Ciudad Oculta. "To get money, I sold my clothes, I begged for coins on the street.

    "But my head is somewhere else now, and I'm doing well. I don't want to go back to that space."

    *


    patrick.mcdonnell@latimes.com

    Andrés D'Alessandro of The Times' Buenos Aires Bureau contributed to this report.
  2. darawk
    Do we know what's in this stuff?
  3. Benga
    yes, it's nothing new. It seems "Paco" is just another name for ""Basuco" / "Pasta de coca" , "sulfato de cocaina" etc...

    the word "BASUCO" comes from "BASE de cocaina" some I'm guessing the nickname "PACO" might come from "PASTA de cocaina", both of which are used interchangeably if unproperly to describe the same product.
    an crude byproduct of cocaine processing, containing crude / semi refined cocaine base from the first extraction process. Use of basuco was until then restricted to cocaine producing countries, where it was sold to workers, and use extended into the suburban slums.
    bazuco use has been problematic for quite sometime, since the 1980's actually.
    basuco typically contains 40 to 80% crude cocaine base, but also the remains of the extracting solvents : sulfuric acid, lots of non polar such as kerosene or gasoline, vegetable leaf mush past, and the alkali used...yuck
    effects last a few minutes, hits hard and fast, pretty similar to crack but much less pure, and much more toxic due to slovents. It is often rolled in joints with cannabis, or smoked directly in pipes, and not vaporized like crack.In Bolivia and Peru, the coca-paste cigarettes are known as "pitillos".


    b
  4. Benga
    an 1989 article from The Philadelphia Inquirer
    September 16, 1989

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    Drug abuse invades the Andes


    MEDELLIN, Colombia - Gilberto carefully unwrapped a packet containing a grayish powder and slowly sprinkled the drug into some tobacco he had arranged in a piece of cigarette paper.

    With practiced fingers, Gilberto rolled the cigarette and licked it shut. He lighted the cigarette, inhaled deeply. As the drug took effect, a faint smile came across his face.

    "It feels good," said Gilberto, 32, his voice becoming thick and smooth. "I feel a little more energetic than before."

    It was 3 in the afternoon Thursday, and Gilberto had just awoken on the frayed, filthy mattress in the bedroom of his near-barren brick house in a northern Medellin neighborhood.

    Although he had not eaten for 24 hours, Gilberto said he was not hungry. His body, however, craved basuco - the powder that is both his addiction and his stock in trade.

    Basuco is a powerful cocaine derivative. Inexpensive and highly addictive, it often is compared to crack.

    According to public health officials, the abuse of basuco has increased dramatically in the Andean nations where virtually all of the world's cocaine is produced, creating a public health crisis where none existed a decade ago.

    In the early 1980s, government leaders in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia frequently argued that drug abuse was primarily a problem of U.S. consumption. Basuco has changed all that.

    Now, U.S. officials say privately, drug abuse in the Andean countries is one reason nations such as Colombia are embracing U.S. anti-drug programs that they once shunned.

    According to those who use it, basuco produces intensely pleasurable highs - as well as attacks of extreme paranoia.

    "I often get this feeling of persecution," Gilberto said as he smoked on the counter in his kitchen, surrounded by drug paraphernalia and the light from a bare bulb - the only light bulb in the house. His eyes darted at the front door of the house because he said he was concerned that the police might break it down at any minute.

    Though cocaine use is illegal in Colombia and police occasionally raid drug dens, Gilberto admitted that they never had called on his house.

    Basuco does more than twist the mind, according to Colombian public health officials. The drug can be highly toxic - it frequently contains large amounts of the chemicals used to process cocaine, such as kerosene, gasoline and sulfuric acid.

    "The composition of basuco is variable and extremely unpredictable," said Yolanda Torres, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Antioquia in Medellin.

    Basuco abuse in Colombia is particularly pronounced in Medellin, the home of the drug cartel that supplies most of the world's cocaine.

    "In Medellin you can see clearly the consumption of basuco as an epidemic phenomenon," Torres said in a 1987 study, the only nationwide study done on drug abuse.

    Reliable measures of the number of basuco smokers are few.

    Torres' study concluded that there were about 100,000 basuco smokers in Colombia, a nation of 31 million people. Other studies said there were five times that many.

    Other than basuco use, cocaine abuse is relatively rare, health officials said. Although cocaine is much cheaper in Colombia than in the United States, it is still too costly for anybody but the wealthy.

    "Our biggest problem is with basuco, and fundamentally that is a problem with the young and the poor," said Luis Javier Garcia Isaza, the director of the Medellin Metropolitan Health Department.

    At one of the health department's clinics near downtown Medellin, a group of about 15 young addicts gathered last week as part of a program to help them quit. All but one were men.

    "Basuco is great for those who sell it," said Juan Guillermo Vanegas, 24. "But it's not for those of us who use it."

    Vanegas said he had tried to quit three times before.

    Health officials said the relapse rate for those who went through public detoxification programs was close to 100 percent - so high that the metropolitan health department is considering ending sponsorship of treatment programs.

    "We're putting more emphasis on prevention because of the failure of treatment programs," said Marta Cecelia Londono, the department's chief of special programs.

    Those who are addicted say smoking basuco is a fierce habit that is hard to shake.

    "You're smoking one cigarette while you're rolling another," said Vanegas. "You can't control it."

    Such obsessive consumption was plainly evident Thursday afternoon as Gilberto agreed to allow a reporter and a photographer into the house where he sells packets of basuco for 25 cents each or cigarettes already laced with basuco for slightly more.

    The house was adapted for the basuco smoker. The windows all had bars - "Those are to guard against police attacks," said Gilberto. Stained blankets hung over every window to keep the interior dark and to prevent outsiders from looking in. Visitors announced themselves at the door with a whistle.

    The only ornaments on the walls were a depiction of the Last Supper in the living room and the Virgin Mary in the bedroom. The only visible furnishings were a mattress, a side table and a crude wooden bench; the rest of the furniture was locked into a side room to prevent the basuco smokers from destroying it.

    The house did not escape abuse: The toilet overflowed with feces, electrical outlets dangled by frayed wires and empty bottles of aguardiente - a stiff Colombian liquor - were scattered in the kitchen.

    "One time I was confused and I thought my clothes were on fire, so I tore them off," said Gilberto, who alternately drummed his fingers on his knees and twisted a chain of keys around his hands. He wore a plaid shirt haphazardly buttoned, and he did not appear to have bathed recently.

    Gilberto said that he wanted to quit smoking the drug, but that the desire was too strong. And so he kept selling basuco in order to supply his habit.

    "It's like when your stomach is asking for food - you feed it," he said. "That's the way I feel about smoking."

    A few other people stopped by to smoke. Gilberto did not keep his basuco packets in the house, so when new arrivals came, he would leave the house to obtain the packets.

    He also employed runners, like Eduardo, to fetch the drugs.

    Eduardo, who like Gilberto is in his early 30s, had sunken, unshaved cheeks and wore ragged clothing. Like many basuco addicts, he was emaciated because the drug took away his appetite and his money. He said little, but he smoked constantly.

    One customer, Carlos, 24, appeared to be a little healthier than the hosts of the house - he said he had smoked basuco for 10 years, while Gilberto said his habit extended back more than 15 years. Carlos said he recently attended drug therapy at a public hospital, but was only partially successful.

    Carlos, who said he sometimes worked as a mechanic, said that the public rehabilitation programs were inadequate, meeting only several times a week, and that he could not afford a private treatment program. The private clinics charge up to $100 a day for treatment. Colombia's minimum wage is $75 a month.

    He rolled a cigarette that contained basuco mixed with marijuana.

    "I feel like I'm compensating a need," he said.

    He smoked the cigarette until it was no more than a scrap of paper that he pinched between his fingernails.

    "My head feels better," he said. "But my conscience does not."
  5. Expat98
    Actually, the article I posted makes a distinction between paco and bazuco. See the following passage:

    Note that it also says that paco contains very little cocaine. Sounds like it is more of a toxic waste product of the cocaine production process.
  6. Benga

    yes. swim has seen Paco listed as a synonym of basuco elsewhere. Will try to dig it up. Basuco is just what that though, "a toxic waste product of the cocaine production process". Maybe it's classified and prices vary according to purity, but I very much think this is the same product.

    unless "Paco" is this other "thing" called "GUARAPO". Maybe this is cruder than the crude basuco...

    the magic guarapo recipe being, according to some ( there's a thread in the forum)
    Coca leaves + Salt ¨+ Sodium Carbonate + an non polar like like gasoline + Hydrochloric Acid

    Salt,sodium carb. and a little water sprinkled on the leaves, left to macerate for 5 hours in the sun,
    then pourred into a large amount of petrol / gasoline / kerosene, in a 50 gallon drum.
    Non polar + leave mixture left to macerae for a week, then the liquid is strained, and separated from the leaves.
    The liquid is left for 48 hours when the non polar solvent separates, clear water+ solvent, muddy gasoline/alkaloid mix in the
    middle, and guarapo at the bottom.
    Guarapo is filtered out with coffee filters, and hydrochloric acid is added, reaction happens, filtered again, dried.
    not much of a difference with basuco actually. In some cases the extracted leaves are treated with the extraction solvent again, reacted...
    now maybe this is it, or maybe "Paco" is really something else, but there's not much of a difference in the product obtained. maybe guarapo is "cleaner" somehow.

    worth looking into though, something more toxic than the already quite toxic basuco...
    so far only found vague basuco like descriptions such as this one :


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    "Porque además es barato, el paco es el producto de la primera etapa de procesamiento de la cocaína. Es brutalmente tóxico. La cocaína es clorhidrato, depurada, procesada químicamente, en cambio al paco se lo realiza con ácido sulfúrico, contiene amoníaco, kerosene, es un producto absolutamente tóxico".

    ----------

    it's extracted with sulfuric acid....nothing new

    oh it does come from PA - sta de CO- caina

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    "Cuesta la mitad que un 'faso' (cigarrillo de marihuana), y 'pega' mucho más. A un peso el gramo, el paco se convirtió en la droga más barata y destructiva en las barriadas humildes del Gran Buenos Aires y algunas villas de la Capital.

    Se llama así en referencia a la 'PAsta base de COcaína', pero en realidad se trata sólo de una variante de la pasta base, la más peligrosa y mortal. A diferencia del clorhidrato de cocaína, que necesita un laboratorio con cierta infraestructura para su producción, el paco se elabora en cualquier piecita de barrio, con instrumentos caseros y unas pocas instrucciones. Fumando vidrio y querosén. La pasta base se obtiene a través de la maceración de las hojas de coca, mezcladas con solventes como la parafina, bencina o éter. La presencia de los solventes, además de la coca, refuerza el carácter adictivo y el efecto rápido, intenso y de corta duración de cada dosis. El paco, al ser procesado en forma doméstica y buscando estirar el rendimiento de la pasta base, incluye en su elaboración desde ácidos convencionales hasta vidrio molido de los tubos de luz fluorescente. Lo volátil del efecto alucinógeno se debe también a que el porcentaje real de cocaína en cada dosis no supera el 10 %; el resto son químicos o elementos adulterantes que no hacen otra cosa que profundizar las lesiones cerebrales y pulmonares. La mezcla fumada 'lima' la corteza cerebral y produce en poco tiempo de consumo secuelas neurológicas irreversibles por la inhabilitación permanente de los centros nerviosos, genera la pérdida de reflejos, motricidad, inteligencia y hasta memoria en los pibes adictos."

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    nothing clear...

    and this info site just mixes all the names in PBC = pasta base de cocaina, ie (crude) cocaine base paste. Really, i think it's just basuco, perhaps with a second extraction, ie even less pure. I'd say don't trust the article on "Paco" being a "new drug" Media sensationalism.....
    what's next, far worse than basuco, cheaper, more deadly than Paco : Sancho ? Are you Sancho ? no, I don't think you're Sancho...etc etc

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    Pasta Base de Cocaína
    Paco, pasta, bazuco, base, crack, pecoso
    cocaína no tratada

    Es la cocaína no tratada, extraída de las hojas del arbusto de la coca a través de un proceso de maceración y mezcla con solventes.

    Existen cerca de 250 variedades de la hoja de coca. Por ello es que las características de la Pasta Base de Cocaína variará dependiendo de la cantidad de alcaloide que contenga las hojas utilizadas.

    El hecho que la pasta base de cocaína contenga el alcaloide más los solventes, que son sustancias tóxicas, la hace mucho más peligrosa para el organismo. NO ES APTA PARA EL CONSUMO HUMANO. Agregales a ellos los productos secundarios de la combustión (alquitrán, monóxido de carbono, benceno, entre otros).

    Se la conoce también como paco, pasta, bazuco, base. Se le vende como paco, que es la unidad de comercialización y de consumo.

    Tiene aspecto de un polvo blanco o amarillento, dependiendo de la sustancia con la que se la corte.

    La vía de administración más frecuente es el fumarla en pipa o latas con cenizas como brasero; también en cigarrillos mezclada con tabaco o con marihuana. A estos se los llama nevados.

    Precio en la calle $ 1 (un "paco" es mas barato que una etiqueta de cigarrillos, en algun momento costaban lo mismo que un porro, luego, cuando el porro aumenta de precio, el "paco" sigue manteniendo el suyo).

    Obtención de Cocaína desde la hoja de Coca

    Hojas de Coca + (Carbonato potásico + Kerosene)= Extracto de Coca + (Ácido Sulfúrico)= Pasta Base de Cocaína + (Ácido sulfúrico + Amoníaco)= Pasta Lavada o Sulfato de Cocaína + (Acetona o eter + Ácido Clorhídrico + Alcohol)= Clorhidrato de Cocaína o merca + (Bicarbonato sódico)= Free Base o Crack
    Fuente: "No te enganches con la lata"


    sorry for all the posts in spanish.

    b
  7. Felonious Skunk
    lol, yeah right. Here it is, almost 20 years later--and I wonder if the drug cowboys realize that after all this time the narcopolicia were taking U.S. anti-drug money in one hand and bribes from the narcotraficantes in the other.

    If only that the real sucker wasn't the U.S. taxpayer.
  8. Nagognog2
    25 to 30 years ago the cheap stuff in Peru was called pasta - or paste. Highly impure muck that reeked of kerosine. It was what the street kids moved onto IF they grew older after a "childhood" of inhaling glue. The pastasistas would sell this crud to the turistas with one hand, and pull a knife and rob 'em with the other. The staccato of police sub-machine gun fire would be heard every night in Lima as the Policizia chased the kids out of the squares and alleyways.
  9. x cynic x
    Swim didnt know that glass and dust were poisonous
  10. radiometer
    ^ then try looking up the effects of inhaling ground glass.
  11. Jackyl
    Only if the glass particles are very small ( a few microns) and directly inhaled it can/will reach your lungs. It all depends on how strong one inhales.... There should be some information on this topic since small glass balls are used for polishing metal surfaces and removal of paint/dirt layers by spraying them with high speed on the surface to be cleaned. Recently, in the UK cannabis was found to be adulterated with small glass balls that are used in these processes.
  12. x cynic x
    For many avid consumers, Prohibition = Unreliable sources. Some people, in desperation, will grab whatever is in their reach. What people need is certainty and caution. With ignorance of these qualities, any harm is practically self-inflicted.
  13. pabel_giboon
    Paco is a synonim of Bazuco, same thing, very differnet from "Hechado `patras" which is rebasified clorhiudrate, freebase.
    It does contain as said sulphuric acid and solvents.
    SWIM lives in Buenos Aires and Paco´s living dead starts being noticed even close to downtown.
    Never seen so deteriorated people before. They weight 80 to 100 Lbs, eyes on fire from paranoia, and they hit the Lata (soda can used as a pipe) in public sight, no matter what. They look/act/smell 100 times worst tah IV coca users back in the 80´s. (probably IV users then were mid-class junkies, not desperate indigents)
    Makes me feel so sorry, from the perspective of that disaster, the whole coca issue looks like the world would be better without it.
    Paco/bazuco users are the worst victim of Cola trade. If you do a rail, keep in mind what it takes to bring it to your table. Sound´s like SWIM is preaching, but you´d see those kinds... actually hurts.
  14. enquirewithin
    This sounds like sniffing glue-- or worse.

    Typical NYT propaganda. Colombia, a US client state, produces the most cocaine.
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