1. Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world. We serve over 4 million readers per month, and have costs like all popular websites: servers, hosting, licenses and software. To protect our independence we do not run ads. We take no government funds. We run on donations which average $25. If everyone reading this would donate $5 then this fund raiser would be done in an hour. If Drugs-Forum is useful to you, take one minute to keep it online another year by donating whatever you can today. Donations are currently not sufficient to pay our bills and keep the site up. Your help is most welcome. Thank you.
    PLEASE HELP
  1. SmokeTwibz

    A police officer in the suburban Dallas community of Richardson, Texas, shot and killed a woman with outstanding drug arrest warrants as she fled from an attempted traffic stop Monday morning. Emily Krumrei, 32, becomes the 9th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

    According to the Dallas Morning News, citing Richardson police spokesperson Sgt. Kevin Perlich, an officer "was attempting to get a violator to pull over in a parking lot" for reasons that are yet unclear, but Krumrei fled in her Lexus. Shortly thereafter, an officer in a squad car saw her and attempted to stop her, but she refused to pull over.

    Krumrei turned onto the southbound frontage road to the North Central Expressway. There, Perlich said, "a third officer near the frontage road was working a traffic accident. He stepped out into the road and tried to get her to stop." But instead, Perlich said, Krumrei accelerated and clipped the officer. "The officer, in fear for his life, fired upon the vehicle," Perlich said.

    The Dallas NBC affiliate had a slightly, but significantly, different chronology of the shooting. According to NBC, the officer "fired at least one shot at the woman before being struck by the car."

    In either case, the officer was not seriously injured or hospitalized.

    Krumrei was taken to a local hospital, where she was pronounced dead. Perlich said an investigation into her death was ongoing, but "it's possible she wasn't stopping because she had several outstanding warrants for her arrests."

    The Morning News reported that records show Krumrei had been indicted in Dallas County in April for possessing between one and four grams of cocaine, and that she also had outstanding felony drug warrants from Smith County, a hundred miles to the east.

    by Phillip Smith, April 09, 2013
    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2013/apr/09/police_kill_texas_woman_fleeing

Comments

  1. source
    I suppose because she was using her 'car' as the 'weapon' they could shoot at her and kill her with no questions asked.
    All she was indicted for was 1-4 grams of cocaine?? I have no idea why she didn't just face up to that, unless the other drug warrants against her were a lot worse.
  2. SmokeTwibz
    I agree with what you're saying about facing up to the charges, but the officers chasing her could take steps to not escalate the situation to the point where someones could easily be endangering others because of poor driving skills, or something like that. There has got to be some point in situations like this where you just stop pursuing and wait for another opportunity. I can see pursuing someone to the ends of the earth that just robbed a gas station and shot the cashier, or did something else violent where there was clearly immediate danger to innocent people, but to shoot, and kill, someone for outstanding drug warrants is completely unnecessary, in my opinion.

    I just don't see why he felt it was necessary to jump in front of an on coming car, especially one fleeing, thinking that he's going to be able do anything about it, except shoot at the car. There are some situations where I might agree with sort of thing, but not for someone that has warrants for drug possession.
  3. godztear
    They do it in L.A. so why not everywhere? L.A. also has the highest grand theft auto rate in the world without fears of being knocked down a peg or two by any city anywhere else.

    This is a situation where it involves chasing a suspect or not. The only way to not escalate the situation would be to not try to pull her over in the first place. People have to understand, when you break the law there are consequences looming overhead at all times. You may one day have to face these consequences. If you chose to break more laws avoiding this retribution then more consequences await this snowball of events. In this case she rolled herself right into a police officer who ended her journey of bad decisions with one of his own self preservation.

    We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us.
  4. rickster999
    These stories are always sad. One could argue, why did she get arrested in the first place, cocaine should be legal. Then there is the saying "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". He could have shot her from 30 feet away, or it's possible that he was in a game of chicken with this woman and her car. At the end of the day I'm just glad she didn't kill or injure any innocent children or adults. We have all seen the videos of them t-boning someone at an intersection. I doubt they knew about her warrants until after the fact, just that she was avoiding police at all costs it seems. Still sad when someone has to die.
  5. SmokeTwibz
    I agree with you Godztear, but the officer that shot her, according the article, jumped in front of her car and then fired. The officer said he was fearing for his life? Of course, he's going to be fearing for his life, he jumped in front of a car that was driving down the road trying to get away from the police.

    Also, to me, it seems extreme to jump in front of someone fleeing because of drug warrants, and then actually feel its necessary to shoot at the suspect. He didn't have to do that, I know this just an assumption, but he must have been aware that the suspect was fleeing because of drug warrants. If she was fleeing for something more violent, then maybe jumping in front of car would seem a bit more justifible.

    I'm not saying the girl didn't do anything wrong here, there are several things that she could have done differently.

    Maybe I'm a little bit biased here. I've had friends shot and killed by the police because of drug warrants.
  6. Moving Pictures
    Use of deadly force should always be a last resort. Why couldn't the cop have moved out of the way? What about all those police chases I see on tv? The use spike strips and road blocks and shit to stop fleeing vehicles, they don't shoot at the driver. I personally haven't, but I've known plenty of people who ran from the cops in a car, they were never shot at. Idk, I'm usually on the other side of the coin with stories like this because the person usually did something that warranted deadly force but this? Nah, man. Maybe there's info that we are not getting but as it stands, this cop should fired and the woman's family should file suit against the police department.
  7. godztear
    A motor vehicle is considered a deadly weapon when you use it in an attempt to run someone over, it wasn't just that she ran from the cops. If someone comes driving directly at me like a crazed maniac, would I trust my ability to jump far enough out of the way to not become a pancake, or trust the high velocity of lead getting to the car before the car gets to me.

    There are many police chase videos where the suspect drove into people and was shot on the scene, one most famously televised is when firefighters/paramedics are tending to an accident and an SUV (fleeing from police) rams threw the accident scene. The police officer tried to jump out of the way, but ended up getting drug about 20 yards by the vehicle, pinned underneath and the only thing stopping the driver was the shots that rang out after he already ran the cop over.
  8. homegirl808
  9. dyingtomorrow
    So she was driving on the road, and the police officer either:

    1) Stepped out into the road, into the path she was driving on, got "clipped," and then drew his gun and shot her in the back of the head (fearing for his life from the car that was already passed him).

    OR

    2) Stepped out into the road, into the path she was driving on, with his gun already drawn and started unloading on her face/side of her head. If he was "clipped" however, he couldn't have shot her in the side of the head, so it would have had to have been in the face. So in other words she's driving away from 2 other cops, probably looking back and forth in her rearview mirror, and a third cop jumps out onto the street and quickly shoots her in the face before being "clipped" by her dead body.

    And then you have sketchy facts like she "accelerated" "at" the third officer who came out of the side somewhere from a separate traffic incident he was working, or that she wasn't already dead when she "clipped" him assuming the scenario where he shot her in the face, and not the back of her head after she passed.

    Either way the story as reported pretty much sounds like murder.
  10. godztear
    This lady refused to stop for not 1 but 2 separate attempt to pull her over, then barrelled threw an accident scene clipping the 3rd officer who was on foot attending the accident before she was shot threw the side window of her vehicle. She had no regard for any innocent lives in her selfish attempt at avoiding arrest. This isn't GTA or Saints Row, you can't just go around running people over and get away with it. Who is to say that if this officer did not shoot her that she wouldn't have taken someone else out down the road with her erratic driving? She surely had no intentions of stopping what-so-ever with disregard for anyone else who may of gotten in her way.

    I have a hard time finding compassion for her when she had none for anyone else.
To make a comment simply sign up and become a member!