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  1. Motorhead
    'Prince of Pot' about to be busted

    The days of freedom are just about over for Marc Emery, the Vancouver, B.C., pot activist wanted for four years on U.S. drug charges.

    Emery, who has described himself as the Prince of Pot, will surrender to Canadian authorities on Sept, 28, his wife says in her blog.

    Then he will be shipped to Seattle, where he is expected to plead guilty as part of a deal with federal prosecutors and be sentenced to five years. He wants to be able to serve the time in Canada.

    It will end a long and strange prosecution. He was indicted in Seattle four years ago over charges that his former Vancouver business sold marijuana seeds.

    The case soon sparked controversy. Emery sold seeds, not marijuana and was busted by U.S. agents in Canada. Then, too, Emery, a frequent candidate for public office, had long been a promoter of pot, often through a printed, then online magazine, and he mocked U.S. drug laws.

    But this summer Emery decided to take a plea deal. He explained online that his lawyers told him that extradition to the U.S. was inevitable.


    Scott Sunde
    Sept 24, 2009
    Seattle Post-Intelligencer
    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/179924.asp

Comments

  1. DietBlonde
    Alright, I'm a stoner and I follow all the news going on in the world of cannabis, and I'm absolutely tired of hearing about the "PRINCE OF POT". Fuck that guy, seriously. He acts like the second coming of Christ. He taunts the feds/mountees for years, gets busted, and now he's a martyr for the marijuana community. Who gives a fuck? There are millions of victims in the war on drugs, but I guess this guy gets special attention because he's self-proclaimed royalty.

    Now he's going on farewell tours, and there's global protests going on, and his whole website and mag Cannabis Culture is a shrine to him and his "service" to the world. I dunno, I just find it annoying. Why is he the "prince" of pot? Who knighted this dork?
  2. Motorhead
    When the story first broke that Emery was arrested in Halifax I followed it really closely, posted almost everything I could find on the net about him here on the forum. There was alot of attention, interviews, and interest. Swim was really into pot and research about legalizing cannabis at the time, and proud to have such a strong Canadian voice for the cause. Then I started reading more interviews and then watching more videos of him, and starting thinking the exact same thing-'Marc is kind of a dork' lol The whole 'self-martyrdom' thing just seemed kind of hokey. Then the extradition got delayed again and again, and time wore on, the story lost sizzle.

    But when it comes to getting peoples attention about a cause like legalizing marijuana, you do have to hit them over the head a little bit to get noticed. So I think alot of the rhetoric is an attention getting ploy. And one cannot deny the vast amount of work he has put into the fight to make cannabis legal.

    Love him or hate him he has done alot of good things. I think Axl Rose is a total fucking asshole, but I still rock to Appetite for Destruction.
  3. Lokibee
    Most of his profits from those seeds went to help orgs like norml and to reform laws in US and Canada! Not to mention the fact that he provided seeds that were great at a price that was reasonable and the info to grow. He has done ALOT for the whole canna community and now is going to give his freedom. Yeah for YOU and ME and all other smokers so have a tidbit of respect for the man and his family. And BTW the US DEA and Media made him Prince Of Pot.
  4. DietBlonde
    So the guy gave money (I highly doubt it was "most" of his profits) to organizations. So what? He's still a narcissistic wanker with a jesus complex who loves seeing his name in print. He's not "giving" his freedom away for you or me. The government is taking it away, like they've done to millions of others.

    He's worse than Barry Cooper.

    and on that note, we'll have to agree to disagree.
  5. Master_Khan
    Anyone who has contributed as much to the pursuit of personal freedom as Marc Emery deserves more respect than he is being given on this thread.
  6. Motorhead
    I totally respect the guy. Like I said the self-martyrdom ploy is kind of foolish though. Even his closest friends think it wasn't that bright. And he should have bit the bullet and went to the clink around the time of the 60 minutes interview for maximum attention if that was the whole plan. He isn't getting much attention in the mainstream media now. The story got drug out to long over four years.
  7. podge
    Apt choice of words.:laugh:

    Swims thinks Emerys contribution cant be denied, but agrees he is playing up the martyr role. But perhaps his decision to play it up will have a further positive outcomes for the marijuana community. Lets certainly hope so anyway. I wouldnt be surprised if after his stint in prison his publicity will soar and he'll try run for some position in politics.... and he might get it too.
  8. Lokibee
    And by playing up the martyr role is giving US media food to chew on bringing even MORE attention to the fight. Edison self promotes he is genious Emery self promotes he is narcisistic. And lets not forget PT Barnum.... all names noone will ever forget because they self promoted to bring attn to the things they wanted it brought to. And yes it was like 90 % of his seed profit went back out to the fight.
  9. Motorhead
    Video no longer in archive. My bad. Free Marc Emery.
  10. chillinwill
    Marijuana activist Marc Emery to surrender

    Marc Emery, Canada's self-proclaimed "Prince of Pot," appears Monday in B.C. Supreme Court, where he is to be taken into police custody to await extradition to the United States.

    He was arrested in 2005 at the request of U.S. officials for selling marijuana seeds over the internet from Vancouver.

    The leader of B.C.'s Marijuana Party, who runs a magazine called Cannabis Culture, faces a five-year prison term as part of a plea deal.

    Once extradited, Emery, 51, is expected to plead guilty in a Seattle court to conspiracy to manufacture marijuana.

    He says accepting jail time allowed his two co-conspirators — Michelle Rainey and Greg Williams — to each be given two years' probation. Had he gambled on a trial, he would be looking at up to 50 years behind bars, he says.

    Emery's business made millions of dollars over the years, but he says he gave it all away to marijuana advocacy groups around the world.

    His wife, Jodie, is trying not to think about what awaits her husband.

    "It'll be very lonely, but that'll just encourage me to get him back in my arms as soon as possible," she told CBC News.

    Her plan is to lobby the federal government for Emery's swift transfer to a Canadian prison.

    September 28, 2009
    CBC News
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/09/28/marc-emery-surrender.html
  11. NeuroChi
    I see both sides of the story. Marc is the 'self-proclaimed' prince of pot, and he does milk the media attention a little much. But he is voicing his opinion, which is a lot more than the vast majority of pot smokers do. He may consider himself a martyr for marijuana, which is a bit too far, but he is nonetheless doing more good then most others convicted of similar charges.
  12. chillinwill
    Marc Emery's sentence reeks of injustice and mocks our sovereignty

    After two decades as Canada's Prince of Pot, Marc Emery will surrender himself today in B.C. Supreme Court and become the country's first Marijuana Martyr.
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    Emery will begin serving what could be as long as five years behind bars as Uncle Sam's prisoner for a crime that in Canada would have earned him at most a month in the local hoosegow.

    It is a legal tragedy that in my opinion marks the capitulation of our sovereignty and underscores the hypocrisy around cannabis.

    Emery hasn't even visited America but he was arrested in July 2005 at the request of a Republican administration that abhorred his politics.

    He is being handed over to a foreign government for an activity we are loath to prosecute because we don't think selling seeds is a major problem.

    There are at least a score of seed-sellers downtown and many, many more such retail outlets across the country.

    In the days ahead, once the federal justice minister signs the extradition papers, Emery will be frog-marched south to Seattle where his plea bargain will be rubber-stamped and he will be sent to a U.S. penitentiary.

    For comparison, consider that the B.C. Court of Appeal last year said a one-month jail sentence plus probation was appropriate punishment for drug and money-laundering offences of this ilk.

    The last time Emery was convicted in Canada of selling pot seeds, back in 1998, he was given a $2,000 fine.

    In July, his co-accused Michelle Rainey and Greg Williams were given two years probation for conspiracy to manufacture marijuana.

    They were indicted along with Emery for their role in what the authorities described as a

    $3-million-a-year business.

    Rainey, 38, worked for Emery from 1998 to 2005, helping him operate the B.C. Marijuana Party and his mail-order business.

    The 54-year-old Williams took phone orders.

    Emery flouted the law for more than a decade and every year he sent his seed catalogue to politicians of every stripe. He ran in federal, provincial and civic elections promoting his pro-cannabis platform.

    He championed legal marijuana at parliamentary hearings, on national television, at celebrity conferences, in his own magazine, Cannabis Culture, and on his own Internet channel, Pot TV.

    Health Canada even recommended medical marijuana patients buy their seeds from his company.

    From 1998 until his arrest, Emery even paid provincial and federal taxes as a "marijuana seed vendor" totalling nearly $600,000.

    He was targeted because of his success, targeted as surely as pot comic Tommy Chong — who spent nearly a year in U.S. jail because his son ran a company selling glass pipes.

    Emery challenged a law he disagrees with using exactly the non-violent, democratic processes we urge our children to embrace and of which we are so proud.

    "The same seeds I sold are being sold right in America," Emery complained. "The people in California are doing it the same way I did so there's a terrible hypocrisy at work here."

    He's right.

    Emery recently wrapped up a 30-city "farewell tour" of speaking engagements across Canada.

    And, he's banking on the transfer agreement that allows Canadians convicted and jailed in America to serve their time here and take advantage of our very liberal early-release laws.

    If that happened, he could be out within a few years. But Ottawa has regularly rejected drug offenders for the program and I doubt Emery will find any sympathy.

    I suspect he's likely to moulder in a violent, overcrowded U.S. jail for probably his full five-year sentence.

    "I'm going to do more time than many violent, repeat offenders," he noted.

    "There isn't a single victim in my case, no one who can stand up and say, 'I was hurt by Marc Emery.' No one."

    He's right again.

    Emery is facing more jail time than corporate criminals who defraud widows and orphans and longer incarceration than violent offenders who leave their victims dead or in wheelchairs.

    Whatever else you may think of him — and I know he rankles many — what is happening to him today mocks our independence and our ideal of justice.

    By Ian Mulgrew
    September 27, 2009
    The Vancouver Sun
    http://www.vancouversun.com/enterta...njustice+mocks+sovereignty/2041190/story.html
  13. Terrapinzflyer
    If memory serves Marc also ran, or at leasted funded/promoted a low cost (free?) Opiate addiction program using Ibogaine years ago.

    As to some of the comments about the man...

    Many of the prominent public faces of the drug war (as well as other causes) have been "characters" to be polite. It takes a special breed to stand up and draw public and media attention, which also draws the attention of law enforcement.
    So be it. He's done far more for the movement then the folks bitching about his personality and his profits.
  14. Motorhead
  15. Quorthon
    I'm a little disappointed to find that I am locked out of viewing any of these videos. These are the kind of videos that all DF users should be able to view.
    Is there any chance of having them hosted in an unrestricted part of the forum?

    EDIT: So as to not wander off topic I have placed this request in the suggestions area here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=679496#post679496
  16. MrG
    So you'd prefer that he just be some anonymous stoner who's being locked away for a few years, just like every other, anonymous, stoner who's doing time.

    What are *their* names again?

    How much airtime did *they* get for the cause of drug law reform?
    Their contribution to society is the profit that the private prison industry makes off their incarceration.

    I don't care if this guy declared that he wanted us all to salute his photo three times a day, he is somebody who does not fit the usual, ignorant, stereotype of the "druggie". He is smart, educated and Joe-Sixpack and his wife-beatin' buddies would find it hard to vote against a guy who's stood up to "the man" whilst being, you know, "regular", like them and not some crazy-assed tie-die wearin' hippie.

    So what if the media want to portray him as "the prince of pot", I don't care and neither should you. If it gets the job done I don't have an issue with anybody who wants to step into the limelight and have at "the system". More power to them.
  17. Motorhead
    The Prince of Pot's future

    Canadians are divided on the extradition of Marc Emery to the U.S. to face five years imprisonment for selling marijuana seeds.

    In an online survey of a representative national sample of Canadians, 46 per cent of respondents agree with extraditing Emery, while 48 per cent disagree.

    Surprisingly, 52 per cent of respondents believe Emery and other Canadians should be extradited even if the punishment they face abroad is more severe than the punishment meted out in Canada for the same crime. On this question there are sizable majorities in Alberta (58 per cent), British Columbia (56 per cent) and Quebec (54 per cent). Still, 41 per cent disagree.

    But many believe the five-year sentence for manufacturing marijuana that Emery faces is too harsh. Forty-five per cent (including 53 per cent of British Columbians), take that view. One-third (33 per cent) think the sentence is correct, and 16 per cent deem it too lenient.

    The B.C. Court of Appeal said last year that the appropriate sentence for someone like Emery convicted of selling marijuana seeds by mail was a month or two in jail, and a year's probation.

    In the questions designed to gauge awareness of four high-profile court cases involving extradition, a surprising 44 per cent of respondents stated that they did not know who Emery was.

    Ronald Allen Smith -- the Red Deer, Alta. native now on death row in Montana for slaying two people -- had an even lower level of name recognition, with 56 per cent not knowing who he is. Only 13 per cent of Canadians, by comparison, did not know of Omar Khadr, the Canadian held at the Guantanamo Bay on terrorism charges.

    Just 11 per cent say they do not know of Roman Polanski, the film director who pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor in 1978 and who was detained last month in Switzerland on an outstanding warrant.

    About two in five (44 per cent) would only send Canadians to face trial and jail time in a foreign country that does not have a corrupt justice system.

    Angus Reid Strategies conducted the online survey from Oct. 1 to Oct. 2 among 1,286 randomly selected Canadian adults who are panelists for the company. The margin of error -- which measures sampling variability -- is plus or minus 2.7 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

    The breakdowns for B.C. are based on a sample of 407 respondents, with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

    The pollsters oversampled in order to get a much better take on the issue than the standard survey would allow.

    The results were statistically weighted according to the most current education, age, gender and region census data to ensure a sample representative of the entire adult population of Canada.

    Discrepancies in or between totals are due to rounding.

    Emery was indicted four years ago by a U.S. federal grand jury on charges of money laundering and distributing marijuana seeds.

    He has agreed to plead guilty to a lesser charge --of manufacturing marijuana -- in a Seattle court in exchange for a five-year prison term.

    The self-styled Prince of Pot is in custody awaiting the expiration of a 30-day appeal period after which the federal justice minister is expected to sign the removal order to transfer him to the U.S.

    Ian Mulgrew
    Oct 7, 2009
    The Windsor Star
    http://www.windsorstar.com/news/Prince+future/2080915/story.html
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