'Super marijuana' becoming a problem

By chillinwill · Jun 17, 2009 · ·
  1. chillinwill
    A strain of highly-potent marijuana is hitting the Chicago suburbs and causing concern for local lawmakers. Now they're calling for stricter laws against trafficking.

    Tetrahydrocannabinol, known as THC, is the main ingredient in marijuana that gives you a high. It used to measure 4 percent in pot found on the streets in the 90s. But now, pot can be as much as 20 percent THC.

    One congressman said with the increased potency, he would lobby to see increased fines because the new marijuana could sell for $600 an ounce. This new 'super marijuana' is much higher in THC. It produce a more intense and longer-lasting high. It also sells for more on the street, and on the street, it's commonly known as "koosh."

    "Koosh is a modified marijuana that delivers up to ten times the THC level of the marijuana we may have seen in the 1960s and 70s," Congressman Mark Kirk said.

    Congressman Kirk is proposing federal legislation to make dealing it on a higher level like with cocaine.

    Congressman Kirk went on to explain that the high potency marijuana act of 2009 "would increase the penalties just for drug dealers and people making sure they know that the penalties are as high for this new potent marijuana as it is for other high potency drugs."

    To give you an example, current legislation calls for fines of $250,000 for an individual and up to five years in prison. Under Mark Kirk's proposed legislation, it would go up to $1 million for an individual and up to 25 years in prison.

    Judie Garcia
    WGN News
    June 15, 2009

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  1. old hippie 56
    Man, where do they find all of these dumbass politicans? Never seen no weed worth no 600 bucks either. Koosh, is this a bastardized spelling of kush?
  2. EscapeDummy
    ...I'm left nearly speechless. How do idiots like this get elected into office?

    Same level as COKE? And fines of a MILLION DOLLARS AND 25 FUCKING YEARS for NONVIOLENTLY DEALING WEED? You get less time for RUNNING OVER A PEDESTRIAN WHILE DRUNK (Donte Stallworth, an NFL player, was sentenced to a whopping 30 days in jail+probation for killing a man while driving drunk earlier this week). Jesus christ. This is getting really outrageous. And what the fuck is Koosh? I've never heard of that strain before... if I lived in Chicago, I'd be pretty mad that this is what my tax money is being wasted on.
  3. Valseedian
    norml's newest article deals with this bullshit... it's just sad.
  4. AceOvArts
    yea this does sound like someone has heard the word Kush and misspelled it.
    Master Kush is a most aromatic beautiful smoke of high calibre.
    Its just another word they can throw in there like Skunk.
    Damn meatheads
  5. Valseedian
    'skunk' and 'kush' are names that bad dealers give to decent weed so they can charge $30 a gram AND sleep at night, nothing more.

    the article on the norml homepage said it the best: there's no way in hell this will ever make it to law, rep. kirk is just trying to get his name in the papers..

    and this would also cover the sale of 'pure' thc products like marinol and dronabinol, as well as hashish's, keefs and honey oils of high potency...
  6. cannabis-sam
    Yep sounds like the skunk epidemic in the UK. All fabricated media bullshit when I read the spelling "koosh" I spat my tea everywhere from laughing, what will these goons come up with next I wonder. It just amazes me that these journalists fail to do even the most basic research. What is journalism coming to eh?
  7. Valseedian
    something I've never even seen mentioned anywhere is that your lungs have a specific rate of absorption (of thc...)... no matter how strong your weed is, you'll still have to inhale as deep and hold it just as long...

    a more pure product can never be a bad thing... any idiot can dilute a product... or choose how much to take at a time... the difference between beer and bacardi 151..
  8. pwfb28
    I wish our politicians would actually do research (see patriot act) before they spout garbage like this. All that had to do was do the bare minimum research and they woulda learned that "Koosh" isn't a word.

    Or asked their kids....

    How easy is that?
  9. EscapeDummy

    Do you happen to know the "optimal inhalation time" for "regular" (non ultra dank) weed? Because my good pal Swim has always wondered that.
  10. Valseedian
    swim has to find the paper (written in german origionally so the language is less than perfect), but he thinks that the stats were that *generally* holding a hit longer than 15 or 20 seconds starts to see deminishing returns... noting that the rate of absorption changes between each person,such as the total lung size, the potency of the marijuana used, issues/injuries with a swimmer's lungs and a list of other factors... but that being said, there is almost no reason to hold a hit more than 30 seconds (obviously expemting very potent smoke and other extreme circumstances)
  11. old hippie 56
    Remembering reading something about this on a nameless forum:
    A study done by a group of doctors in Canada at Dalhousie University, concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their number at 95% absorption. The 5-15% of THC that isn't absorbed is due to THC loss in trace smoke, or smoke that never enters the lungs.
  12. AceOvArts
    SWIM would love to throw in a word that only stoners knew that meant bullshit but throughout the smoking community was regarded as the highest quality weed. Just to see if one day it got picked up by some sneaky journo, it wouldnt achieve anything but SWIM wonders how long it would take to get from nowhere to the media.
  13. MarkyMayhem
    Nerf used to make a rubber ball thingy with tons and tons of rubber stringy things on it and I think a rubber loop that you could put over your finger and stretch to fling it.

    It was called a Nerf Koosh.

    With the oo pronounced as you would expect, not as a u
  14. Free Will-E
    This is just silly. Putting away a good citizen for 25 years over some good pot is on par with murdering someone. It scares me to know that people this ignorant and downright hateful can actually hold an office. This guy is a sadist for proposing a law like this.
  15. nate81
    More tragedy in the war on sense. Jeez the ignorance is appaling. How can these people be RUNNING OUR COUNTRY!?!? Head for the hills kids, we're in deep shit when our leaders think $600/oz Koosh should get a penalty of 25 years and a million dollar fine.
  16. chibi curmudgeon
    Ten times as potent, and it's STILL impossible to smoke enough of it to be dangerous, Mark Kirk, you stupid fuck.
  17. drug-bot
    Kirk and Law Enforcement: Super-Marijuana “Kush” Hits Suburbs ​

    High-potency marijuana at least five times as strong as 1990 levels - as expensive as crack

    Kirk: “If you can sell Kush for as much as cocaine, you should face the same penalties”​
    CHICAGO – U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk, Lake County Metropolitan Enforcement Group Director Larry Lindenman, Waukegan Police Chief Artis Yancey and representatives from Lake County Sheriff Mark Curran’s office today unveiled tougher penalties for a new type of “super-marijuana” hitting the northern suburbs. “Kush,” street slang for a strain of highly-potent marijuana, has a tretrahydrocannabinol (THC) content of at least 20 percent. According to the National Drug Intelligence Center, the THC average of seized marijuana was less than 10 percent in 2007. In the early 1990s, THC levels were less than 4 percent.

    “According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, more than 25 million individuals age 12 and older used marijuana in 2007 – significantly more than any other drug,” Congressman Mark Kirk said. “That’s why Kush and other high-potency marijuana strains are so worrying. Local law enforcement reports that Kush users are ‘zombie-like’ because of the extreme THC levels. Drug dealers know they can make as much money selling Kush as cocaine but without the heavier sentences that accompany crack and cocaine trafficking. Higher fines and longer sentences aren’t the total solution to our nation’s drug problem. But our laws should keep pace with advances in the strength and cash-value of high-THC marijuana. If you can make as much money selling pot as cocaine, you should face the same penalties.”

    The rise of Kush mirrors the increasing popularity of high-THC marijuana, which has become more accessible with the rise of hydroponics. Drug growers are able to strictly control light, temperature and humidity and can cross-breed to maximize THC content. It takes growers approximately four months from planting to harvest to produce the high-potency marijuana. Other types of Kush are known as Bubba, Paris, Bubble Gum, Sour and Orange Kush.


    According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Kush has been known to sell for as high as $600 per ounce – creating the same profit potential as crack cocaine.

    Kirk’s legislation, the High-Potency Marijuana Sentencing Enhancement Act of 2009 (H.R. 2828), increases federal fines and sentences for the distribution of high-potency marijuana. It defines high-potency marijuana as marijuana with a THC content of 15 percent or more. The legislation targets drug trafficking only and not possession of marijuana.

    Under current law, unlawful distribution, possession with intent to distribute, manufacture, importation and exportation of marijuana under 50 kilograms or 1 to 49 plants carries a maximum fine of $250,000 for an individual, $1 million for a group and up to five years in prison. H.R. 2828 increases maximum fines to $1 million for an individual and $5 million for a group, with a maximum sentence of 25 years. If death or serious bodily injury occurs, sentencing would be 20 years to life in prison.

    A second offense after a drug felony conviction would result in a minimum fine of $2 million for an individual or $10 million for a group, with a maximum sentence of 35 years, or life if death or serious bodily injury resulted from the use of the marijuana.

    The text of the legislation is below.

    H. R. 2848
    A BILL
    To amend the Controlled Substances Act with regard to penalties for trafficking in high potency marihuana, and for other purposes.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
    This Act may be cited as the ‘‘High Potency Marihuana Sentencing Enhancement Act of 2009’’.

    Section 401(b) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 841(b)) is amended by adding at the end the following:

    ‘‘(8)(A) Unless a higher penalty is otherwise provided in this Act, in the case of a violation of subsection (a) involving high potency marihuana such person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not more than 25 years and if death or serious bodily injury result shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 20 years or more than life, a fined not to exceed the greater of that provided in title 18, United States Code, or $1,000,000 if the defendant is an individual or $5,000.000 if the defendant is other than an individual, or both. If any person commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a felony drug offense has become final, such person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not more than 35 years, and if death or serious bodily injury result from the use of such substance shall be sentenced to life imprisonment, a fine not the exceed the greater of that provided in title 18, United States Code, or $2,000,000 if the defendant is an individual or $10,000.000 if the defendant is other than an individual, or both. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the court shall not place on probation or suspend the sentence of any person sentenced under the provisions of this subparagraph which provide for a mandatory term of imprisonment.

    ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘high potency marihuana’ means marihuana with a Tetrahydrocannabinol content of 15 percent or more.’’.
  18. old hippie 56
    How come cowboy can smoke this high THC content kush and not become a zombie like fellow. All it does to him is bring on the munchies and make him play silly computer games..
  19. ninjaned
    i don't understand how someone can think that doing this is a good idea. kirk(or any governors job for that matter) is to protect the people and provide leadership, how is putting nonviolent offenders in jail for 25 years, or making them pay 1 million dollars doing either of these tasks? does he really believe that he is helping people? i really don't understand how people can judge something they know nothing about, and this is a great example of that. saying your a bad person because you think its okay to smoke pot, is persecution based on someones beliefs.
  20. anonuser30500
    Actually, the hash imported in the UK in the 70s and 80s was stronger than all these supposed 'super' weed strains. Hashish concentrates the THC to the point were 0.5 gram in a joint is the equivalent of ten joints of weed. Buying an oz of weed is silly if there is an oz of good hash.

    So, even if the hash 25 yr ago was made from 4% THC weed, a joint of 0.5 gram would be like a 50%er. Whoever smokes the 20% super weed, is smoking a LOT LESS THC, because there is (for ease of numbers) 2.8 grams of hash in that weed.

    So the 20% THC laden joint actually only has a tiny amount of the hash or resin that actually has most of the THC that gets you high.

    The move from mostly imported hash to all this so called 'super weed' really does mean your average youth today is nowhere as near as stoned as Bob Dylan used to be.
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