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  1. KomodoMK
    The Most Dangerous Drug in the World

    Scopolamine: Scopolamine is a colorless, tasteless, odorless drug. It is also known as hyoscine and is classified as a tropane alkaloid. The drug can be obtained from plants in the Solanacea (nightshade) family. Most scopolamine comes from jimsome weed, or as in Columbia, borrachero trees. The plants it can be derived from are many, and abundantly available. This makes its use widespread, and exceedingly dangerous. It is, surprisingly, one of the most feared substances in what is arguably the drug capital of the world, Columbia. In Columbia alone, there are over 50,000 reported cases of Scopolamine drugging, although rarely does this receive media attention, in Columbia or elsewhere. The drug is used almost primarily by criminals as a way of making victims so docile that they have been known to help thieves rob their own homes and empty their own bank accounts. Additionally, women have been drugged repeatedly and held as sex slaves, or have been convinced to willingly give up their own children. The most horrifying side effect of the drug is not is ability to make zombies of its victims, but the complete amnesia it causes.

    “BOGOTA, Colombia (Reuters) - The last thing Andrea Fernandez recalls before being drugged is holding her newborn baby on a Bogota city bus. Police found her three days later, muttering to herself and wandering topless along the median strip of a busy highway. Her face was badly beaten and her son was gone. In the case of Fernandez, the mother of three was rendered submissive enough to surrender her youngest child.”

    Scopolamine can be administered easily into a victim’s drink, or food. It’s powdered form can also simply be blown in a victims general direction. The result of this type of drugging is typically either immediate death from overdose, or severe intoxication. There have been reported cases of women putting scopolamine on their breasts, and then enticing their male victims into licking their breasts, thereby drugging them. The following is a short documentary about the drug Scopolamine as produced for VBS.tv. It takes a look at the drug, its prevalence in Columbia, its uses and its dangers.

    Interesting Scopolamine Facts:

    1. Scopolamine was used as a chemical defense in cocaine cases: This is because the chemical formula for cocaine, C17H21NO4, is identical to that of Scopolamine. Both have the same molecular formula but have differing structures, causing the different effects of each drug.
    2. In a 1963 Supreme Court Case, Townsend vs. Sain, it was concluded that “serum-induced confession” was a form of torture and therefore unconstitutional. The ruling was based on the confessions of Townsend, whose admissions were made under the influence of Scopolamine.
    3. In 1922 it occurred to Robert House, a Dallas, Texas obstetrician, that the drug scopolamine could be employed in the interrogation of suspected criminals. Scopolamine was later used by Dr. House on criminals under interrogation in Dallas. His experiment attracted wide attention, and the idea of a "truth" drug was thus launched upon the public consciousness.
    4. In the early 1920’s, a Dallas obstetrician named Dr. Robert House concluded that Scopolamine could be used to interrogate criminals, based on his experiences with women under the influence of the drug. Dr House was later allowed to conduct experiments with the drug on criminals in interrogation, which received wide attention, catapulting the idea of a “truth serum” into public consciousness.
    5. Treatment with scopolamine hydrobromide blocks muscarinic cholinergic receptors and produces a rapid, robust antidepressant response in depressed patients with unipolar or bipolar depression, Maura L. Furey, Ph.D., reported at an international congress sponsored by the World Federation of Societies of Biological Psychiatry -http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-166189623.html
    6. Early in this century physicians began to employ scopolamine, along with morphine and chloroform, to induce a state of "twilight sleep" during childbirth. In this twilight sleep, doctors noticed patients answered questions accurately and provided exceptionally candid answers. -Reuters via cursor.org.
    7. Scopolamine was one of a number of drugs used in a now declassified secret CIA program to discover mind control drugs. The project was known as Project MK Ultra. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
    8. Scopolamine is often taken as one half of a medication known as “ScopeDex,” which is a combination of Scopolamine and Dexedrine. It is given to astronauts and people in similar training to prevent nausea and vomiting.



    Firsthand Experience of Scopolamine Ingestion: (taken by a 35 year old male, 185lbs, 7g of Scopolamine)

    1. +30 minutes: Onset of peripheral anti-cholinergic symptoms, e.g. dry mouth, blurred vision, dilated pupils, hyperpyrexia, red hands and feet and flushed face. Some noticeable ataxia and poor sentence construction.
    2. +1 hour: Definite delirium setting in. Substantial decrease of muscle tone, resulting in clumsy walking. Much banging into walls and stumbling over nothing whatsoever. Heart-rate is very fast.
    3. +2 hours: Muscles almost completely relaxed, so that walking is now impossible (can barely crawl, however). Forehead feels feverish. Hearing is impaired. Pupils are monstrously dilated. Colors are very rich and bright, as with Cannabis intoxication. Visual perceptual resolution is poor; text appears blurry no matter how hard subject squints or concentrates. Depth perception is severely impaired, making it impossible to appropriately reach for even nearby objects without over- or under-reaching.
    4. +3 hours: The walls are breathing; objects are swirling about and taking on living forms, making for a generally nightmarish scenario. Subject has NO INSIGHT WHATSOEVER; these are REAL HALLUCINATIONS, unlike the fanciful visions and distortions that one obtains on indoleamine psychedelic drugs. Terrifying.
    5. +4 hours and onwards: Muscles are so weak that even lifting a finger seems to take superhuman strength. Subject feels an oppressive force pinning him down on the bed, paralyzing him. Visual field is completely obscured by various living forms and blurry splotches. Throat is parched; tongue feels sandy. Subject does not know where he is; does not know whether he is even awake or dreaming, does not know who he is; does not know why he feels so shitty; etc. Subject pledges his soul to the demon who is sitting on him in exchange for a refreshing drink of water. The demon takes his soul, doesn't provide the agreed-upon water. Subject resigns himself to eternal damnation.
    6. +16 hours: Subject finds himself at work, utterly perplexed. He realizes that he is in the middle of a conversation with someone, asks for that person to repeat what was just said. Somehow manages to handle everything at work without stirring too much suspicion. Vaguely recalls waking up in the morning midway down the basement stairs. Luckily, no injuries other than bruises. Concludes that he must fallen down the stairs while sleepwalking. Later that day, subject is shocked to discover that he had completed a sizeable amount of rather demanding paperwork earlier in the workday, with no recollection of even being delegated this task. Because of blurry vision, reading is somewhat difficult.
    7. +20 hours: Subject comes home, sees a bowl of cooked rice sitting in the refrigerator - does not recall ever cooking rice. Also finds a toothbrush and some floss (most of it pulled out and then wrapped around the dispenser) on his nightstand, and a remote control in the bathroom. Pupils are still fucking hugely dilated. Subject has paranoid ideation about various entities lurking throughout his house, sees fleeting creatures in his peripheral vision.
    8. +48 hours: Subject's memory and sanity are more or less back to normal, but he is deeply shaken and full of regret for ever thinking of experimenting with an ant cholinergic deliriant. –Erowid.com
    9. The following is a link to a more alarming story of a higher dose of the drug: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=54912 The following is a video of three people actually high on Scopolamine. The people in this video apparently ate the seeds of the borrechero tree, becoming highly intoxicated.

    Source: http://www.sobercircle.com/Article.aspx?Article_ID=8

    # SoberCircle

Comments

  1. gmeziscool2354
    wow this is really cool.

    i'm going to check out those videos when i get some time
  2. twigburst
    Eat some datura and wake up in your neighbors house.
  3. Potter
    Naked, handcuffed, covered in peanut butter, with a cop standing over you... and no memory of how you got there.
  4. Mrxanaxs
    This actually happened to a buddy of mine.... he ate 400 datura seeds and walked into a neighbors of the guys house he was at and just sat down and watch tv... he thought he was working at little ceasers.
  5. Waffa
    Does not sound a kind of drug Pinocchio would want to test out on himself to get hight lol.
    but
    In medicine, scopolamine has these uses:
    Primary:
    Treatment of nausea and motion sickness
    Treatment of intestinal cramping
    For ophthalmic purposes.
    As a general depressant and adjunct to narcotic painkillers
    Less often:
    *As a preanesthetic agent
    *Uncommonly, for some forms of Parkinsonism.
    *As an adjunct to narcotic analgesia, such as the product Twilight Sleep which contained morphine and scopolamine, some of the original formulations of Percodan and some European brands of methadone injection.[citation needed]
    *To enhance the pain-killing ability of various opioids.
    *As an occasional sleep aid, and was available in some over-the-counter-products in the United States for this purpose until November 1990


    In my country there is also popular plant among witches called (Atropa) belladonna nickname is Deadly Nightshade.

    "Belladonna is one of the most toxic plants found in the Western hemisphere. All parts of the plant contain tropane alkaloids. The berries pose the greatest danger to children because they look attractive and have a somewhat sweet taste.The consumption of two to five berries by children and ten to twenty berries by adults can be lethal. The root of the plant is generally the most toxic part, though this can vary from one specimen to another. Ingestion of a single leaf of the plant can be fatal to an adult"

    The active agents in Belladonna, atropine, hyoscine (scopolamine), and hyoscyamine, have anticholinergic properties.

    Old times Germans was mixing belladonna and beer to get the "buzz" & it's sometimes talk about among village people here in Estonia if they joke about getting high, they say "well, take belladonna and you will get the lifetime high u need.."

    & for fun, Folklore:
    In the past, it was believed that witches used a mixture of belladonna, opium poppy, and other plants, typically poisonous (such as monkshood and poison hemlock) in flying ointment they applied to help them fly to gatherings with other witches. Carlo Ginzburg and others have argued that flying ointments were preparations meant to encourage hallucinatory dreaming; a possible explanation for the inclusion of belladonna and opium poppy in flying ointments concerns the known antagonism between tropane alkaloids of belladonna (specifically scopolamine) and opiate alkaloids in the opium poppy, Papaver somniferum (specifically morphine), which produces a dream-like waking state. This antagonism was known in folk medicine, discussed in eclectic (botanical) medicine formularies, and posited as the explanation of how flying ointments might have actually worked in contemporary writing on witchcraft.The antagonism between opiates and tropanes is the original basis of the Twilight Sleep that was provided to Queen Victoria to deaden pain as well as consciousness during childbirth, and which was later modified so that isolated alkaloids were used instead of plant materials, the whole belladonna herb especially being notable for its unpredictability of effect and toxicity


    Well... that's all about this plant :)
  6. witchychick
    some witches swim knows still use the trad recipe for " flying ointment " ... when prepared swiy has to be v careful esp with the belladonna because you can get effects off it by direct skin contact to fingers and eyes. most do not put much in at all.. too scared lol
    mandrake is used too and yes opium poppy
  7. Waffa
    But Pinocchio is more then sore, if he have huge yard full of belladonna then gov will do nothing about it, does not matter how dangerous it is. But as soon as they discover Pinocchio picking up some banned mushrooms they will be really hard on him... (here the narc police actually monitors the arias where mushrooms are growing and then arrests people for owning class A drug, how sick is that. They say that they must do it, because some people just do not get how dangerous these mushrooms are...
  8. ComfortablyNumb
    Read most of those experience from erowid, they sound so funny from the outside and kind of appealing but having no control does scary.
  9. TMM
    That's an epic photo. Very foreboding. I'd probably be quite uneasy if I stumbled across that in the depths of night. Damn datura...
  10. Macee
    Is it normal if swim wants to try this just to see what its like :)
  11. Coconut
    Yes, but it's a very bad idea, analogous to drinking methanol just to see what it's like.
  12. Macee
    Yeah I know, ill never do it.

    But its just like pandoras box, its really bad if you open it, but you really want too. lol
  13. stratry
    SWIM's huffed away on cans of gasoline, so I wouldn't put this past him.
  14. youdontknow
    We have this in Missouri. Its more like a buh though and not a giant tree. Wee call it thornapple or angel trumpet. I actually found one of these bushes growing in one of my neigbors yards. I wonder why these guys went all the way to columbia to find it? Is it different there? I have friend that have done it before. One wound up in the hospital.

    They made a tea out of the pedals of the flower. There were three people. One sat on the floor for two days straight. Afterwards recalling that his entire extended family plus one fat biker dressed in leather who he had no idea who he was, had come into the room and floated above him (which seemed completely normal at the time to him) and carriede on extensive conversations about how things were going.

    One other person who drank alot more ended up in the hospital.
  15. Zentaurus41
    swim has tried it on many occasions, once swim was sitting there in his living room trying to speak all his friends, then he remembers there was some weird creature looking at him from the salvia div plant. After some time swim then tried to make a joint but each time he rolled it and was just about to spark up the joint would dissapear, This lasted what seemed like hours. The last thing swim can remember was waking up and seeing a friend turn off the radio, he then opened the door and left.

    Swim whent to see where he went but he wasnt even there, neither where swims friends the night before. It was all a drug induced weird thing.


    Swim liked it but woundt want to do it again, mainly because your vison goes all blury, you get a sore throate and feel like you have a bad cold.
  16. Rightnow289
    That trip report is mental
  17. KomodoMK
    I've been reading more on Erowid and it's so damn funny yet scary at the same time. Being a sitter for someone having this experience would almost be like doing a great drug yourself!
  18. youdontknow
    he ate 400 datura seeds

    Then went to his neigbors and watched TV.

    Thats exactly what a trip report on erowid said. And i think if someone ate 400 datura seeds they would probably die, seeing as it only takes a small amount to trip your mind out of your skull.
  19. NKelly61
    does anyone know if this has any relation or is in the same family as hyoscyamine?
    i take it for my stomach pain, and taken in large doses, it caused similar effects.
  20. cra$h
    a deleriant for more than a night is just dangerous. God knows what happens. Swim's been lucky and never did anything he was unaware of, or atleast always kept in touch with himself. This was still simply strange. Becoming unaware of your own existance I couldn't even imagine.
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