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  1. chillinwill
    According to an Associated Press report, U.S. law-enforcement is concerned that young Americans will take advantage of Mexico's new law legalizing use.

    "It provides an officially sanctioned market for the consumption of the world's most dangerous drugs," San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore said. "For the people of San Diego the risk is direct and lethal.

    There are those who will drive to Mexico to use drugs and return to the U.S. under their influence."

    According to the report, Mexico's move to legalize drug use was made possible when the Obama administration gave its tacit go-ahead.

    "The Bush administration criticized a similar bill proposed in Mexico in 2006, prompting then-President Vicente Fox to send it back to Congress. But Washington has stayed quiet this time, praising Calderon for his fight against drug cartels -- a struggle that has seen some 11,000 people killed since Calderon took office in 2006."

    One U.S. watchdog group claims that the Mexican drug war was set-off when the U.S. began construction fences and barriers along the Mexican border, not by actions of the Mexican government. "The Obama administration could stop drug smuggling by finishing the fence," said Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol. "Instead it has decided to surrender to the drug cartels and sacrifice American youth on the alter of globalism."

    Written by AmericanPatrol.com
    August 27, 2009
    Right Side News
    http://www.rightsidenews.com/200908...obama-gave-go-ahead-for-mexican-drug-law.html

Comments

  1. thebige
    Nothing like using a foreign country to test full legality of drugs for the USA.
    Hello Travelocity,when does the next plane leave..........
  2. Motorhead

    Well Ya know the right would be whining about this sooner than later. We've had a few people joke on the forum about going to Latin america, but come on. How many people in Texas or California are really going to start day trips to violent cartel run towns just so they can hold .5 grams of blow? lol
  3. laws0n
    Thats crazy how liberal Obama is, SWIM remembers when Mexico tried to do that like ~5 years ago and Bush threatened to stop helping them out, SWIM is pretty sure it was this exact same act.
  4. aerozeppelin123
    "The Obama administration could stop drug smuggling by finishing the fence," said Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol.

    LOL ah yes a fence is what will solve all of America's drug problems, nobody in recorded history has ever managed to smuggle drugs past (gasp) A FENCE!!!
  5. guldenat
    The Great Wall of China couldn't stop ancient invaders, but yeah, this fence will be most useful against drug traffickers with vehicles and *gasp* ... wire cutters.
  6. Bajeda
    San Diego is only 20 minutes away from Tiajuana by car. Many people commute across the border every day for work. The same happens in other towns and cities, especially in Texas (more border towns).

    With border towns you usually have a counterpoint town across the border. You wouldn't have to travel very far at all, and could go and use drugs on the other side and still be under the influence by the time you got home, though this would be incredibly stupid seeing as you will be scrutinized by border guards, not to mention the safety risks.

    It is a legitimate concern though.
  7. Motorhead
    From what I'm reading online It seems to me that the Mexicans rarely prosecuted anyone for the amounts that they have 'decriminalized', and have enacted tougher laws for possession of amounts higher than the allowable limits. Laws much tougher than they had in place before.
    What is this 'direct and lethal' risk that Sheriff Gore is referring to? Impaired drivers on their way back to the US from getting high? You are correct that this is a legitimate concern. I just don't see it as being any bigger than it was before really.
    Its all just wait and see, but alot of the rhetoric like Sheriff Gore's we are seeing regarding this new Mexican law is just alot of political pot shots at Obama, sprinkled with a hefty dash of the same old archaic 'drugs are bad' republican hyberbole.
  8. Bajeda
    Yes I don't think US citizens were really targeted by Mexican law enforcement in the past, aside from sporadic attempts to extort bribes. If anything, this will just mean more attention from US border guards. As for cartel violence, that also rarely spills across the border. On the whole this will affect Mexican citizens way more than American ones, so this article is just opposition whining about issues like drug enforcement and the border fence (really an immigration issue) that they are losing ground on.
  9. drug-bot
    it not like drug are legal in mexico, you cant just go to a store and by heroin, cocaine or a few tabs of acid. if an american made a day trip to mexico theyd need to find a dealer (which would be hard since most americans don speak spanish and drug dealers would view gringos supiciously).
    also the law allows only for small amounts of drugs for personal consumtion which is defined as- The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 millaligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for Methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.
    http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98474&highlight=mexico+lsd+heroin
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-08-20-mexico-drugs_N.htm
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iP1GlMCOzYSi8kbAUY1lLDdqc4vAD9A70MDO0
    the entire purpose of this limited decrimilization is to decrease non-violent people in jail (mexico had harse anti-drug possesion laws). as well as stopping police from extorting money from small time users in exchange for not arresting them (in case its a shock to anyone mexican police are notoriously corrupt).)
  10. Desertfox
    Are you sure its o.o15mg of LSD? if SWIM did his math right that's not even a dose, only 15mcg! are you sure it wasn't 1.5mg? that 'bout 6 doses which would correlate with the approx doses of the other drugs like heroin and marijuana. But I guess SWIM would have to ask Mark Stevenson of the Associated Press, who wrote the article you got this from
  11. Lokibee
    Finding a dealer in Mexico is dead simple.
    Almost any bar has a dealer or two sitting inside or standing outside.
    As far as being able to walk into a pharmacy swim walked into one about 3 years ago and walked out with 3 boxes of glass ampuals of morphine in his pocket. Each ampual had about 20 good insulin syrynges full. Swim was tore up from the floor up for a month!
    Swim will definitly be headed south for his fun time on a regular basis.
  12. Matt The Funk
    People visit these towns all the time as BAJEDA has said. People probably won't take day trips, but maybe a weekend trip. If everyone is allowed to hold their share of drugs, along with how easy it is to obtain OTC pharmaceuticals, I wouldn't think people would take trips (besides heavy drug users) just for that. Although I do think the 19 - 24 crowd would be pretty inclined to make party trips without risk of persecution for indulging in some harder drugs. Also this means MMJ patients from CA could travel into mexico with 5 g's of their medicine. Making travel to Mexico safer, more enjoyable, and possible for many of these people. The violence isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be.
  13. Motorhead
    Well I've never been to Mexico and I'm currently 2 borders to the north removed from the situation, so yes this Canucks point of view is clouded by the foggy lens of the media. Sure some will venture south, but I still don't think that the current situation means that Mexico is now going to be a huge narco-tourist safe haven for southern US citizens, or anyone else for that matter.

    I think the main point of this thread should be the political right-wing mumbo jumbo. Take a look at my post #6 in this thread Mexico enacts 'personal use' drug law. I mean the Mexican government enacted some pretty tough drug laws recently, ones that would make any hardcore American right wing Republican proud; yet all the mainstream, right-wing media focuses on is that one law, that one word 'decriminalization', and print stuff like "Obama...has decided to...sacrifice American youth on the alter of globalism."

    For decades the tough on crime, anti-drugs spiel has been political gold for republicans and right wing parties in other countries. Now that some other countries are trying different approaches to the drug issue other than 'lock em up', the rhetoric will go into overdrive, and Republicans will whine until they get another President who will get 'tough' once again. They certainly are afraid that the 'War on Drugs' will be exposed for the sham that it is.
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