US Study: Drug chat pervasive online

By Heretic.Ape. · Jun 20, 2007 · ·
  1. Heretic.Ape.

    Teens Use Internet to Share Stories, Get How-to Advice

    Ashley Duffy, 18, knew her parents wouldn't tap into her online journal so she wrote freely about her drug use. She says she used the Internet to contact her dealer and connect at parties with people who had drugs.

    "Kids are really open about it. I see posts from other people describing a night on acid or whatever," says Duffy of West Chester, Pa., who underwent treatment and says she has been drug-free for 16 months. "I think they think their parents are clueless. And I guess they are."

    A study being released today of more than 10 million online messages written by teens in the past year shows they regularly chat about drinking alcohol, smoking pot, partying and hooking up. The Caron Treatment Centers, a non-profit program in Wernersville, Pa., that also funds research into drug addiction, commissioned the study by Nielsen BuzzMetrics.

    Nielsen analysts used a computer program to search blogs, public chat rooms, message boards and other places that attract teens. About 2% of the posts specifically mentioned drugs or alcohol.

    The study offers insight into what teens talk about online and classifies the messages into common themes. Many of the teens who posted messages about drugs or alcohol often traded information about using illicit substances without getting hurt or caught. Some teens debated drug legalization and the drinking age. Other teens recounted their partying experiences, including sexual liaisons while drunk or high, the study says.

    Kids often use code words they believe their parents won't understand, says Duffy, who was treated at Caron. "You can't use any words like pot and mary jane and weed because your parents will know that."

    Lucky O'Donnell, 19, of New York, used to refer to cocaine as "yay" or "cocoa" and heroin as "skag" when he posted messages on friends' sites on MySpace.

    O'Donnell, who says he has been drug-free since Dec. 12, 2005, had used the Internet to research how much cocaine he could carry without risking arrest for drug dealing and how much he could take -- and in what combinations with other drugs -- without getting sick.

    He says his research landed him in the intensive care unit just before his 17th birthday. He says his mother found him convulsing on the floor after he had combined cocaine with Tylenol PM and alcohol.

    "One site said it was fine, one site said it wasn't," O'Donnell says. "I wasn't able to differentiate the information. You want to believe everything you read."

    The misinformation on the Internet about drugs is staggering, says Carol Falkowski, director of research communications for Hazelden Foundation, an addiction treatment, education and research center in Center City, Minn. "What kids used to learn about drugs on street corners, they now learn online," Falkowski says. The Internet "erases geographic and social boundaries," she says. "Kids who live in remote areas can develop a camaraderie online of drug-abusing kids. They can share stories about drug experiences."

    Janice Styer, an addiction counselor at Caron, says the treatment center now urges parents to monitor their teens' Web surfing and to keep the computer in a family room. "Five years ago, we weren't even thinking about this," Styer says.

    Scott Burns, deputy director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, says he had a blistering fight with his teenage daughter when he insisted on moving the computer to the family room. He also learned the abbreviation "POS" -- parent over shoulder.

    "It's a lot easier said than done, I know," Burns says. "As a parent, it's hard to keep up with your teens and their technologies. If you're not tech savvy, if you don't have Internet skills, you need to learn them."

    The study's analysis of alcohol messages found that teens mentioned hooking up and having sex while drunk, being drunk at parties, getting help for a friend who drinks too much and drinking until getting sick. The most popular drinks mentioned in the messages were beer and vodka.

    In a sample message included with the study, one unnamed teen wrote: "I've had alcohol once or twice ( once to the point of being drunk ) and sex is waaaaay better."

    In postings about marijuana, teens asked about possible addiction and whether it alleviated depression, the study shows. Teens also shared stories about cutting class, drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and mutilating themselves while getting high.

    Another message from an unnamed teen included in the study asked about marijuana: "Has anyone ever passed out from smoking weed? I was at the beach and I just collapsed and I don't remember that happening."

    In posts about other drugs, teens sought or offered information on Ecstasy, hallucinogenic mushrooms, LSD and heroin. They talked about experimentation with drugs and sought advice on taking drugs safely.

    An unnamed teen in one post included in the study asked for information about DXM, a drug found in over-the-counter cough syrup:

    "I tried DXM for the first time on Saturday ( 200mg ) and it was interesting. Can I try it again ... say tomorrow ... or should I wait longer. I read somewhere you should give DXM at least a week until you try it again. Anyone know?"



    Lingo some teens use when talking about drugs:

    Candy flipping: Getting high by combining LSD with Ecstasy.

    Crank: Low-quality crystal methamphetamine.

    Crunk( ed ): To get high and drunk simultaneously, as in, "Yo, we've got beer and weed. Let's get crunked."

    Dank: An especially strong type of marijuana that is sticky and hairy. Also, something really great. "That's some strong dank."

    DXM: Dextromethorphan hydrobromide. A drug found in over-the-counter cough medicine, which in large quantities causes hallucinations. "I'm out of weed, let's trip on DXM."

    Hotboxed: Smoking marijuana in a confined space so it fills with smoke, as in, "Let's hotbox the car."

    Krippy: Highest grade of marijuana.

    Shake: The end bits of a bag of marijuana. "All I've got left from my stash is some shake."

    Skag: Heroin.

    Skunk: A crossbred type of marijuana.

    Triple Cs: Coricidin cough and cold medicine. In large quantities, it causes hallucinations. "I'm out of X, but I've got Triple Cs."

    Yay: Cocaine.

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  1. Bajeda
    Krippy? Can't say I've heard that one.

    In any case, thats why this site is here. To provide accurate information. ;)
  2. tayo
    "mutilating themselves" - open to interpretation..

    krippy.... that must've started by some "gangster-ass KRIPS" that thought they had the best 'dro. in swim's experience the best 'dro would never come close to krips, because of the high price that they could get for it, and gangs steal.
  3. geophagus
    Crunked? lol!

    What ever happend to baked, or wasted, or blitzed? It's that damn MTV I tell ya. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times...

    Just kidding of course. I've never said that about MTV. However SWIM says it all the time. I kid. :)
  4. Lehendakari
    Teens also shared stories about cutting class, drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and mutilating themselves while getting high.

    WTF?? Mutilating while getting high?? No I've heard (read) everything.
  5. Bajeda
    They must have been visiting Emo forums or something...

    I think mutilating one's self would be the last thing a person would want to do while high!
  6. Nacumen
    All these 'internet-lingo' articles ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS misrepresent the lingo that's actually popular online. To this day I still have not seen anyone use 'POS' and I'm not exactly an old-timer; several of my friends are still minors.

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]"I'm out of X, but I've got Triple Cs."[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica] I would've given props if the journalist recognized that these actually contain DXM, but alas, this distinction was not made. Also, he basically suggested that X makes you hallucinate and is similar to DXM, which shows he is basically clueless.
  7. Bajeda
    I also love how any and all drug use is just "getting high".

    If you are taking amphetamines, DXM, E, LSD, cannabis, opiates, etc. the effects are all under one blanket term.

    Rolling, tripping, and tweaking are very different from what I would generally think of when someone says "lets get high", which is herb.
  8. Shiacmkmleer
    I love when the media discovers something years after it happans... like

    ABC 4 Investigation: Emos exposed

    Last Update: May 23, 2007 8:41 PM


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    Reed Cowan

    [email protected]

    ABC 4 News is sounding the alarm about a teen phenomenon sweeping the nation. Its something we found most teens know about, but few parents had any clue of. Its called "emo" culture.

    "Emo" is an abbreviation for emotional. Part punk, part goth, emo kids celebrate sadness and pain. Psychologist Judith Zimmerman tells ABC 4 News, Part of the guiding philosophy of emo kids is pain. That's the sub-current.

    Our news team began their study of emo culture on the internet, where we quickly found hundreds of sites dedicated to teaching kids what emo is and how to be it. One site instructs, dye your hair black. Style it in the gunshot wound and never be happy.

    Happiness is a sin to emo culture. In a state where the number two cause of teen death is suicide, experts say parents need to know emo culture and understand it.

    Not every child who looks emo may be in to cutting themselves, dark poetry or talk of suicide, says psychologist Judith Zimmerman. Some of these kids may just be in a phase. Its important to tell the difference between a fashion statement and a commitment to a lifestyle. Parents need to understand the deeper meanings of why their child might be drawn to emo culture.

    For more information on emo culture, click here.

    Seriously Its funny as hell to read writing writen by someone who has no idea what theyre writing about.
  9. sterling77
    "crip" or "crippy" is a very widespread term in the U.S. It is widely used throughout southeastern US and I'm pretty sure it originated there too.
  10. Bajeda
    Never heard it in the Mid-West or anywhere on the West coast before, but ok. Just wasn't sure if the guys pulled it out of their ass.
  11. Nagognog2
    Dildo - nervous parent who sends their daughter/son to rehab after reading their kid smoked pot.
  12. Orchid_Suspiria
    Hmm I guess people would rather their kids do dangerous things and die as opposed to going to a site like this and learning the truth and learning how to do things safely?
  13. Swimster

    I would say that they need to come here, although they are teens(not allowed). That guy probably went to totse or something similar for his info.
  14. klaatu
    Going back to the original news story. Let me get this straight...

    They used a "computer program" (which, of course, is *infallible*) to scan through 10 million messages posted by "teens" for code words that actually refer to drugs.

    Oh my word.

    Quite apart from the obvious question of how the hell do you decide which messages have been posted by teens. I hear rumours that some people have more than one on-line profile and in some of them they appear to be teenagers - clearly an honest typo when entering the date of birth info....

    If the message contains a "code word" then it is counted as being a drug-related message. They list some of the words that absolutely *have* to be drug references - crank, shake, dank. I'll add a few more - shit, stone, rock, white & brown - clearly 100% proof the message is about drugs.

    And we all know that people never, ever exagerate about that they get up to at parties to make themselves sound "cool"

    My point? Well, the news story is just a heap of shit. (ALERT!!!! THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS THE DRUG WORD "SHIT" - YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO THE AUTHORITIES......)

  15. ejbot
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]"Teens also shared stories about cutting class, drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and mutilating themselves while getting high."

    mutilating=masturbation? haha wow. swim has never had even the slightest urge to mutilate swim self on drugs.

    seriously the media throws in so many little words and ideas to warp their already misinformed stories into absolute insanity... which entirely discredits the news for me... sad.
  16. dutch-marshal
    they learn about others with trip reports...
    they learn from each other... thats what's hapening on these forums..

    this is just sad... you WANT to believe to everything....then your jsut desperate....and IF it were so that 2 forums give you different advice...
    what about making a POLL ;)
  17. Kodi
    LOL I like that part..

    What was the reasoning behind that??

    Oh man, these 2 forums say different things...Oh well, Ill just take a 50/50 on my life and try it anyways.

  18. Pino
    Cranked and drunk?

    On t***e there is a lot of information, that you want to believe. But for the safety of yourself, your family and your neighborhood (swim found last time he looked a guide of how to make acetone peroxide or something similar, fun on new years day the comment of the author was) you better don't.
  19. lulz

    In other news: new study finds that teenagers regularly lie about drinking alcohol, smoking pot, and hooking up, and are 10 million times more likely to lie about such activities on the internet.

    In a related study: about 10 million studies seem to waste their money on "discovering" things that make Mr Obvious roll his eyes and yawn. Still no cure for cancer.
  20. Senor Gribson
    "when i got my eyebrow pierced i had to smoke one first to get up the courage to do it"
    "i was so high last night, i ended up getting this stupid tattoo"

    ^^both self-mutilation, see it's not as unlikely as you'd think

    swim used to call that stunk, or skunked :D
    most of these words they came up with have been around forever though
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