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  1. Phenoxide
    Wrestling legend Ric “The Nature Boy” Flair’s son has been found dead in a Charlotte hotel room, according to police.

    An NBC affiliate reported area police received a call on Friday morning that a man – Flair’s 25-year-old son, Reid Fliehr – was unresponsive in his room at a Charlotte-area Marriott.

    While detectives are currently saying Fliehr’s death doesn’t appear to be attributed to foul play, Flair’s agent said the investigation into his client’s son’s death is ongoing.

    "We are heartbroken to confirm that Ric's son, Reid Fliehr, has passed away today March 29,” a statement from the agent read. “Reid was 25 and an incredible son, brother, friend, and professional wrestler. No words can describe the grief that Ric and his family are experiencing and they do request privacy during this devastating time."

    A day before his death, Reid tweeted from his personal account, announcing he was set to wrestle with his father in Maryland.

    “Two shows in Maryland this weekend with @RicFlairNatrBoy. Good #wrestling and even better times ahead.”

    Reid Fleihr’s past is littered with run-ins with the law.

    He was arrested for battery in 2007 and was twice arrested in 2009 for impaired driving. He also faced charges for possession of heroin stemming from one of those incidents.

    On Friday, WWE released the following statement: "WWE is saddened to learn of the passing of Reid Flair, son of WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair. Our deepest condolences go out to the Flair family and friends."

    Reid Fleihr’s death comes a little over two weeks after the wrestling world lost Paul Bearer, a former WWE manager and a legend throughout the wrestling world.

    Toronto Sun
    29th March 2013


  1. Rob Cypher
    Reid Flair, Son Of WWE Legend Ric Flair Found Dead At 25; Heroin OD suspected

    [IMGR="white"]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31888&stc=1&d=1364636099[/IMGR] The son of wrestling legend Ric Flair has died.

    Reid Fliehr, better known to wrestling fans as "Reid Flair," was found dead in Charlotte, N.C., on Friday morning, according to TMZ. He was just 25 years old.

    North Carolina's WCNC reports that Charlotte-Mecklenburg police received a phone call at around 10:30 a.m. from someone claiming a man was unresponsive in a hotel room at the Marriott Residence Inn off Piedmont Row Drive South. The man was later identified as Reid Fliehr.

    Ric's agent, Melinda Morris Zanoni, released a statement regarding Reid's death. The message was posted on the Legacy Talent and Entertainment, LLC Facebook page:

    Police report that no foul play appears to be involved in the death, according to WCNC. The investigation is ongoing.

    TMZ notes that he had issues with heroin use. In 2009, Reid was arrested for heroin possession after he crashed his vehicle in North Carolina. This was just one year after he made his pro-wrestling debut on Dec. 6, 2008, according to Bleacher Report.

    Most recently, he had been wrestling for All Japan Pro-Wrestling and seemed excited about his developing career. His last tweet spoke of the good things to come (regarding being booked into a wrestling event).

    Ric Flair, also known as "The Nature Boy," is 64 years old today. His career began in the 1980s, according to ESPN, and he is recognized by the WWE as a 16-time world heavyweight champion.

    Cavan Sieczkowski
    Huffington Post
    03/29/2013 4:51 pm EDT

  2. N0rthrnCa707
    Re: Reid Flair, Son Of WWE Legend Ric Flair Found Dead At 25; Heroin OD suspected

    It's sad, I've heard of about a dozen kids' of celebrities who have had legal/health issues involving heroin.
    It seems like people who have careers, hobbies, pretty much a fulfilling life and still be into that stuff.
    Boredom is a huge factor leading to drug addiction but nobody is immune I guess.
    I watched the Nature Boy kick some ass growing up, never knew he had a son my age. My condolences.
  3. Rob Cypher
    Re: Reid Flair, Son Of WWE Legend Ric Flair Found Dead At 25; Heroin OD suspected

    He has at least three children, David (who's in his late 30s by now and occasionally wrestles), Ashley (who's a female wrestler), and Megan (no idea if she wrestles or not). The wrestling lifestyle itself tends to turn folks into addicts (especially for alcohol and opiates) and a lot of 'pro wrestlers' have died prematurely because of that. :(
  4. N0rthrnCa707
    Jake "the snake" Roberts is a perfect example. He hit the heroin hard.
    Not to make excuses on their behalf, but when your body takes that much abuse then heroin would be #1 drug of choice in my opinion.
    Then you have the children who end up down similar paths. Hulk Hogans son basically kills somebody and his daughter shakes her ass and sings for the wrestling company he works for.
    Sliding off topic, I know, but at my attempt to get back on track...
    Many pro wrestlers have a history of going nuts. It must be hard on families.
  5. ritch
    It's a very tough business. I lasted one show (not as a pro, just some local shit...) But it always saddens me to hear of a pro wrestler passing away. And at that age... Ric must be really affected by this.

  6. Rob Cypher
    Well, they get addicted to drugs just to keep their body working long enough to finish the next match without feeling like they need to curl into a fetal position from all the pain. That and the countless concussions they get clearly lead to some form of CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy); extreme cases end up like Chris Benoit.

    Frankly, the smartest ones are the ones who get famous early and leave the biz to do something else. The biz does little to protect its older members who are no longer able to perform, outside of some health care for some retired WWE wrestlers.
  7. Phenoxide
    Jake Roberts is actually a really interesting example, as he's cleaned himself up and looks to be in the best shape he's been in since his heyday. Oddly enough the guy that's helping to keep him on the straight and narrow is Diamond Dallas Page. Both Roberts and Scott Hall are currently living with DDP, as Hall discusses here. Early days but hopefully this unconvential take on recovery is what both guys need to get clean.

    The drug problems that were a legacy of 80s/90s professional wrestling really are something quite remarkable though.
  8. Rob Cypher
    LOL, the power of DDP yoga...kinda cheesy but it seems to keep the older wrestlers out of trouble, I guess. I just hope they keep Hall relatively pain-free...he looks really bad and I don't think he's got too much longer to live based on what I can tell. Maybe a decade at best if he stops drinking and mixing meds. Makes me feel real bad to see that because he was in relatively okay shape just a decade ago when WWE fired him for partying too much, and other wrestlers his age (Hogan, Nash) don't look anywhere close to that bad (even given the fact nash doesn't really lift too much anymore because of his shot knees).

    DDP's an interesting guy...didn't start wrestling until he was in his 30s, yet wasn't too bad for someone who started so late in the game. He made the best of his time at WCW, and there's no way I think he would've been able to progress in the more musclebound-orientated WWF of the time as Vince McMahon was sold on the whole Hulk Hogan/Triple H overrroided look. Obviously the health issues that have swamped the wrestling industry during the past 15 years has toned down that preference by the WWE, as can be seen by guys like CM Punk who are considered 'credible' world champions.

    I was a smart mark when I was a teenager; fell out of the scene when both WCW and ECW folded and the downsides of monopolization began to become apparent on the WWE showcards in regards to quality of matches and storyline. Tried to get into TNA but for some reason it wasn't quite doing it for me outside of small segments here and there; and then I lost track of all of that when other habits took over (ahem)....of course, it didn't help that about that time the WWE turned "PG-friendly" aka aimed at 8 year olds. Makes me miss the days of ECW (the real one, not the undead "SyFy" version we saw in the mid-2000s, of which the lesser said the better), which at least tried to appeal to young adults with alternating bouts of gore and tits and lots of swearing and people falling through 10 tables stacked on top of each other.

    There are still quite a few drug issues despite the recent "Wellness" programs initiated by WWE; IIRC there are quite a few loopholes regarding steroid/HGH use if it's being prescribed for certain reasons (just can't get the same doctor to write half of the back scripts for every anabolic steroid under the sun like they used to); and I suspect people have a heads up for 'random' drug tests so they would have to be really FUBAR'd to screw those up (but I'm just speculating that part). It's just a band-aid of sorts basically, but it's better than nothing (which is what every other 'federation' basically has to offer in that regard).

    lol, been over 12 years since I last a full Monday Night wrestling program...I've tried to watch some lately but it seems corny...or sometimes the wrestlers are okay at performing their match, but there's little reason to care and the announcers basically act that way by spending more time talking about some other storyline on the show than the match itself. Feels weird to say but the only thing I can watch today is some good Japanese or Mexican wrestling matches; they make most American matches look like they're in slow motion (and they're much more 'stiff' with the punches...and 'stiff' doesn't mean 'whiff', if you know what I mean). They make the occasional visiting American work much harder in a match there than they do in the US...and some Americans can excel there: Scott Steiner's pre-WCW work in Japan is incredible even as you watch him triple in bulk within a year; he still manages to maintain his mobility for a quite a while and can do hurricanranas and crazy shit like that, which is hard for a man that size to do.

    Sorry, getting :eek:fftopic: here. Just nostalgic, which is odd because I don't think I'd enjoy watching wrestling these days (at least the mainstream American offering).
  9. N0rthrnCa707
    Off topic is a no brainer when a group of guys start discussing the better generation (1990s) of wrestling. My buddy and I just watched 50 best finnishing moves. Got real nostalgic. Now days its all about sex appeal.
    But just like the NFL, they make precautions to save as much life as they can from these athletes. Phoney or not, they do dangerous shit. And as to make up for how fake it is, it seems, they have guys doing some amazingly flamboyant stuff.
  10. Rob Cypher
    There won't be another 'golden age' of wrestling until the WWE's monopoly over the business is broken, IMO. I kinda doubt TNA is able to do it at this point...can't really think of any other viable contenders right now either. Could be quite some time before it reaches 1990s (or even 1980s) levels of popularity.

    One thing that could work these days if done right is women's wrestling; I think there's an untapped market for that with the right writers/'bookers' and wrestlers. TNA has a semi-serious group of female wrestlers; perhaps they could expand on that into a whole separate show. (WWE treats the idea like a joke at best, IMO, so I doubt they really consider that part of their 'territory' and wouldn't try to muscle in on it like they did with other competitors.)
  11. N0rthrnCa707
    Dana White took over a huge share of that market with the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Like Vince McMahan Jr. Taking WWF to that new height of entertainment, Mr. White is making prime time television, countless pay-per-views and recently adding women to the roster.
    Now days people want to see the real thing. At least there is a real showdown at the end of all the drama with UFC. They're picking up the slack that pro wrestling is leaving behind.
    This is just my view of things.
  12. Rob Cypher
    Nah...I'd say UFC is taking away boxing's audience more than wrestling; the ratings for WWE TV shows haven't suffered horribly, even when scheduled at the same time as a major UFC show on another cable channel. Boxing, OTOH, is coming close to death's door, especially with all the fixed matches and the million different championship belts. There will always be a market for wrestling because some folks like scripted action with 'larger than life' heroes and villains; whereas UFC fighting personalities are pretty straight to the point and don't (generally) engage in the theatrics that folks come to expect from pro wrestling.

    Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if boxing either disappears from the sports scene thanks to diminishing popularity or is banned due to the excessive head hits (which aren't quite as bad in UFC, as the fighters tend to grapple more than throw blows to the head). I wouldn't miss the sport too much; it devolved since Don King and friends helped kill its legitimacy with fixed matches and the like. IMO, it's death knell began after Tyson's fall from grace in the early 90s.

    My stepfather was a semi-successful amateur boxer, but it left him with a fucked up personality (well, growing up how he did didn't help either) and a terrible drinker who took that shit out on me and my brother. Obviously I won't shed too many tears if boxing was no longer on the PPVs or regular TV, for that matter. :)
  13. Rob Cypher
    Your wrestler name wasn't Mass Transit, was it? ;)

    (I wonder how many people will get this reference...)

    EDIT: N/M, the real "Mass Transit" died from bypass gastric surgery a decade ago at the age of 22. For those who don't get it, it's a reference to an infamous ECW show where a 17-year-old tried to say he was 23 and a trained wrestler. He ended up in the ring with New Jack, who cut him so badly (I think Kulas also screwed up 'blading himself' as well) that he nearly bled to death in the ring. It got ECW and New Jack in a lot of trouble. Mr. Kulas never wrestled again, obviously, although he recovered from his injuries well.

    Here's a short YT link to the video; it's only of the end (Mr. Kulas has already tried to 'blade himself' but screwed it up so bad that he hit an artery, so they're trying to wrap up the match as quickly as possible).

    I just realized that half of that roster that wrestled that show are dead now of drug misuse (particularly opiates and GHB). Damn.
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