Originally Posted by spicybrainsgirl
hey, thanks for your opinion. Everyone's milage may vary. I hate to sound like a Kratom
noob cause I certainly am not, but is 3 grams of UEI really *that* much?
When you compare the amount of pure alkaloids in 1 gram of UEI i think it can be compared to using about 15-20 grams of leaf.
Thats not to say it will feel like you have taken 20 grams of leaf, just like taking 1 gram of a 20x extract will not give you thesame effects as if you have taken 20 grams of leaf.
The point is that your receptors are being flodded with pure alkaloids, and the alkaloids are both addictive and will raise your tollerence unnaturally compraed to the alkaloid
spectrum in plain leaf.
So 3 grams of UEI will effect you in an alkaloid sense as if you have taken up to 60 grams of plain leaf. Obviously it wont feel like you have taken 60 grams but as far as your tollerence goes its being raised as if you had taken that amount due to its unnatural alkaloid content.
You dont mention what your usual dose was.
Did you take 3 grams of UEI a day, every day? If so im suprised that after a year you got away with little problems.
You said you tapered using bali, but what that from daily UEI or did you use UEI every now and again?
There is not set time for addiction
, no set time for WD's to be bad ass.
I used initially for a year and i quit and felt little or nothing, that included using extracts most weekends.
The second time i quit was maybe 6 months later, after a similiar routine. 10-15 grams a day. occasional extracts. No taper.....i felt like killing myself at times.
The next 2 WD's were the same.
Then i learnt to taper and avoided extracts, big difference. I could manage everything.
These days i take kratom to avoid WD'S and to feel somewhat normal but if i had to i could slow taper and skip most of the bad effects. But i crave kratom every day. Thankfully 5 - 10 grams does me now and im not pushing it to 50+ grams like i used to. But that is because no matter how high i go the euphoria
is gone, probably for good. I am still getting effects to make use worth while, espicially after quitting SSRI
medication after 14 or so years.
I would recomend either keeping it for the weekend (if its only recreational) avoiding extracts and espicially enhanced products, unless you can keep it too the weekends and enjoying it for as long as possible, because Kratom like may other drugs
does not offer the initial pros for ever if you abuse it or push it to the limits.