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Old 15-08-2010, 11:18
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Xanax (Alprazolam) no longer 1 or 2mg?

This question is aimed at Alprazolam users in the UK, not for any preference of opinion but simply for advice.

SWIM contacted his doctor just yesterday to refill his Alprazolam, which he is supposed to pick up tomorrow.

Now, usually, SWIM takes the 0.5mg version but usually takes 2 to calm anxiety, which is so severe he usually finds himself unable to walk to the supermarket without having a panic attack on the way and has to stop 2 or 3 times to close his eyes and take 2 of these until the effects kick in and feels able to finish the journey. Being away from his 'safe place', which is home (even tho anxiety and panic attacks can kick in there too) is a real problem.

He's been in hospital many times with oesophagal vsrices(sp?) and was extremely lucky to make it out last time after his lungs failed on ventilator and had to have 18pints of fresh blood passed through.

Now, Alprazolam is the only thing he's found that makes him able to function normally. He only wanted me to inform you of his previous problems so swiy could fully understand this wasn't for recreational use.

Now, the main problem, while taking 2 of the .5mg tablets work, his doctor will only prescribe them per 2 weeks, and taking them 2 at a time means 1 weeks worth. SWIM has a high tolerance to drugs ( to the point of endoscopy injections, even at their highest dose having no effect whatsoever).

So SWIM asked for a higher dosage, hoping to use 1mg at a time or breaking a 2mg in half.

What SWIM was told, however, was that the 1mg and 2mg tablets are no longer produced. This seems beyond illogical as SWIM recalls numerous accounts of 1mg and 2mg tablets prescribed to other people.

So my question to people in the UK, is this doctor simply wrong, are they no longer prescribed in these doses in the UK, or is SWIM missing something?

zalman added 16 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

EDIT: Sorry I can't find the edit button, if a mod could please merge my edit.

SWIM had all these problems before because he was stupid enough to use copious amounts of alcohol to rid himself of the anxiety and panic attacks, and is slowly but surely getting rid of his alcohol dependence.
Quick note: yes he does still drink small amounts sometimes (Reference my last post about SWIM) but is hoping to get completely clean.

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Old 15-08-2010, 18:58
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

Hi the highest dose avalible in the UK is .5 mg, its a real pain as my dog is on these long term, only upto .75mg daily but he gets 2 x boxes of 60 with last 45 days only plus they are only avalible on private perscription to f'ing expensive...but sooo worth it!

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Incidentally your story re alcohol dependance for anxiety is the same as my dogs!!!! BUT he takes alprazolam (xanax) during the day and alcohol at night all under the vets supervision, works ok. PM me if you want a chat mate.

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Old 16-08-2010, 07:30
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

In certain provinces in Canada, the 2mg and 1mg tablets are not stocked in pharmacies, due to a lack of demand.

Alprazolam (Xanax) is more of a USA thing. And it seems to be one of the more problematic benzodiazepines, for which, there are usually better/safer substitutes.

The pharmacies in Canada that SWIM is familiar with actually sell more triazolam, than they do alprazolam.
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Old 16-08-2010, 09:06
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

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Alprazolam (Xanax) is more of a USA thing. And it seems to be one of the more problematic benzodiazepines, for which, there are usually better/safer substitutes.
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Yes Xanax is or was readily thrown at anyone with a slight anxiety/panic/depression/insomnia/etc. problem in the US, the list goes on. And Xanax is available in ER or IR in size from .25-3mg(whites, peaches, blues, bars white or yellow, and the big green triangles.. rare) in many different prints from many different companies. However in recent times the substance has been gaining evermore negative rep, and has been slowed down in how often its prescribed, being easily replaced with other benzos.
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Old 16-08-2010, 15:50
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

SWIM is just curious because after hving been prescribed ( what the doctors seem to see as the usual cure to anxiety ) Citalopram and Mirtazopine, he found these drugs do nothing, in fact an increaed dose of Citolapram made SWIM quite literally physically sick, besides having no effect.
Being sick when you have a tendeny to burst veins in your chest and stomach is ( in SWIMs opinion)a ridiculous, if not life threatening, solution in his opinion

Xanax actually seems to work, he knows it's not the best drug in regards addiction, but after 8 years of abusing alcohol and quite literally almost dying, anything seems better.

I'd like to add a few things about SWIMs condition.
If you would like or not to read them, please do not feel you have to. this is just for information.

SWIM took speed and Ecstasy for a long time, until a bad one landed him in hospital. SWIMs mental state has never been the same since, with anxiety and the worst panic attacks you could imagine ( feeling SWIM was going to literally die in the next 30 seconds).

SWIM knows this is his fault for doing things he shouldn't have, but after 8 years, relief even with addiction is something SWIM will give the world for.

If it takes Benzos, SWIM will do it, SWIM just wants a normal, productive life, a girlfriend, and his mental and physical health back.
To live life normally, again.

Other than recreational use, is this not what SWIY wants too?
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Old 16-08-2010, 19:37
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

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SWIM is just curious because after hving been prescribed ( what the doctors seem to see as the usual cure to anxiety ) Citalopram and Mirtazopine, he found these drugs do nothing, in fact an increaed dose of Citolapram made SWIM quite literally physically sick, besides having no effect.
Being sick when you have a tendeny to burst veins in your chest and stomach is ( in SWIMs opinion)a ridiculous, if not life threatening, solution in his opinion

Xanax actually seems to work, he knows it's not the best drug in regards addiction, but after 8 years of abusing alcohol and quite literally almost dying, anything seems better....
My hamster has always fought manic depression along with insomnia, anxiety(not as bad as SWIYS but..) and migraines. My hamster has used just about every benzo there is and he couldn't agree with you more on the Citalopram{nasty stomach pains and non beneficial} but in my hamsters opinion a couple of good alternatives to alpazolam are diazepam or klonzepam, with Valium/diazepam being his fave. For it doesn't seem to sedate him as hard and make him all loopy but works, where as with the Klonopin/klonzepam he feels like a zombie on a low doze. Anyways i hope this helps and your problem gets better
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Re: Xanax no longer 1 or 2mg?

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SWIM took speed and Ecstasy for a long time, until a bad one landed him in hospital. SWIMs mental state has never been the same since, with anxiety and the worst panic attacks you could imagine ( feeling SWIM was going to literally die in the next 30 seconds).

SWIM knows this is his fault for doing things he shouldn't have, but after 8 years, relief even with addiction is something SWIM will give the world for.
MDMA and Amphetamine could have the role of pathogenic agent. Because MDMA can induce a neurotoxic phase, characterized by the degeneration of serotonergic neurons.
Some other mechanisms could be also considered, as the dopaminergic system, whose functioning can be altered by MDMA and Amphetamine. MDMA also perturbs the functioning of certain peptidergic systems: neurotensin, substance P (SP), dynorphins, occurring in numerous physiological functions and probably implied in panic attacks.

These disorders can appear at person having consumed MDMA during years, and those who could have psychologic predispositions.

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