alright, my cat wrote a huge long post but he'll start over after rereading this. and write another. oh, the wonders of methylphenidate
. makes him a chatty little fucker. he's sorry. this is an issue that has effected him before and reading over this post he might have gone a little bit overboard but he hopes one of you cats is baked/stimmed/drunk enough to read all of this and if your cat doesn't already understand these principles, takes them to heart.
he has known a cat who has taken this combo TOGETHER and…. in spirit. he knew a big ass panther with rage issues. black out rage. throwing tables and shit. just literally screaming and throwing tables. shit was fucked up. he picked up a fridge once. he also loved cocaine
; bad combo. he was on risperidone
for his rage. he abused it on occasion. the risperidone. my cat never got it. now cocaine is fun as hell. that is undeniable. he took, in a depressed haze one of his friends risperidone once and it was the least pleasurable drug
experience he has had outside of bad trips
and over dosing and the like. he called his girlfriend at the time and just almost cryingly told her he couldn't think and he didn't know what to do because he couldn't think that far ahead. beyond him how thats 'recreational,' but he supposes cats also eat benadryl
by the handful, so…
so this cat sniffed cocaine and took risperidone. which are basically, as some cat who has taken all 4, the big brothers of each other, to mph and seroquel
. obviously not literally but bear with my cat. its like 'what could happen.' your cat could go that far. both of these drugs
are weaker but they both do do KINDA the same thing (my cat… thinks… he knows very little about antipsychotics. nasty little shits! bleh! but he thinks the mechanism is similar, yes?) essentially just to different degrees
taking a prescribed dosage of seroquel after taking a prescribed dosage of mph is probably fine to fall asleep, especially if a vet is giving it to you for your cat. my cat might suggest trying ambien
instead if this is for sleep, it tends to have less side effects
and work great and actually DOES have some recreational value (and the danger my cat'll talk about later as well) but thats besides the point. they get a lot of hate from drug users but those fuckers go to college for a long time, and read a lot of books. this is their job. giving fun drugs to cats and making them normal. they make a lot of money doing it because its a lot harder than a lot of cats, my own included considers. and a lot of them ARE actually very intelligent, are ACTUALLY very good at their jobs, and know a HELL OF A LOT MORE then internet message boards full of cats on drugs piecing together wikipedia information and stuff they heard from a cat in highschool or college as fact.
my cats sorry, its a topic that bothers him and he needed to get that off his chest. some doctors and vets are AWFUL, yes, but for the most part they're pretty smart and if you have a good relationship whatsoever with your vet (my cat goes to a therapist and a psychiatrist. he would never tell his psychiatrist about his drug use but he is entirely honest about his drug use with his therapist. if you have a good one that should be okay to do). you should be honest with what your cat has been doing, even if it is illegal, to try and make sure its safe. some vets will take away a prescription if they hear its abused by calling the vet giving it. others will warn and give serious logical HONEST advice. my cat would suggest this if it is not given to your cat by a pharmacy
now if your cat is rocking this shit solo and is just doing guess work, my cat says no. bad idea. now, physically, he can think of no reason taking one after another is a bad idea. even together. the danger in together is what he has seen in his panther friend snorting
gram lines of cocaine and popping risperidone at the same time. fucking insanity mixed with a complete inability to process anything and swaying and shaking and punching and falling all at once. imagine being this fuckers friend. and a complete lack of awareness about the drugs he was taking or how many he was taking and our cats ended up having to take him to the hospital. this cat weighed like 300 fucking pounds and was like 6 foot 2. it was horrible. at the end he just passed out and didn't move besides twitching violently when we made big turns to the vet. he was okay, he slept it off, in the end. but thats not the point. if his friends werent there, what could have happened? he could have EASILY hurt himself or od'd. and likely would have that time.
my cat mixes uppers and downers
every day. inherently the danger, outside of drug interactions and the like, is essentially losing control over your cats dosing and over doing it. taking something like an antipsychotic, which is disorienting as fuck, at the same time as a stimulant
, like mph, would very likely, in my cats mind, at least once if not at low doses and very careful not to, lead to a binge, whether it be accidental or just a balancing act, and he has seen that situation turn VERY ugly. physically he doesn't know how it might be dangerous except for the long term side effects of abuse or even just use of each substance.
now, for a personal anecdote. my cat is very stimulated and passionate. and wants to write. cut him some slack.he's as afraid of drugs as a dare officer and has been on one for years now, and has learned to respect them. don't fuck around unless you've researched for your cat, and if you must, at least try and ask someone in the know (which, my cat is pleased you did by coming here, even if it is a forum on the internet with very little legit information (but the legit is very good and interesting conversation!)), and he hopes your cat isn't experimenting too heavily with this.
my cat had a long anecdote about the one time he, after drinking alcohol
and mph FREQUENTLY, took one night off of counting and ended up blacking out and getting hurt and a smaller cat with less tolerance would have died.
my cat tends to make posts based on things he can prove or at least see theories about. he tends to shy away from posting anecdotes as information because its not- its a story. theres no reason why any of its actually true or worth going by, and a cat shouldn't. but a similar combo almost killed a friend of his, and mixing stimulants
and alcohol has almost killed him personally once.
my cat is sorry this is os long. he just has seen a lot of cats get hurt, one very badly almost in a situation very similar to this and its not something he can turn into hard facts or numbers. the danger that lies with mixing uppers and downers is almost entirely in the behaviour of the user; and anti-psychotics, besides not being terribly good for a cat or at all researched in any context in conjunct with any significant amount of a stimulant outside of the "q-ball" anecdotally as far as my cat knows, tend to be very disorienting which can lead to bad decisions. throw in something that wont let the soft sweet graceful savior of sleep from preventing you from letting your cat die just seems reckless.
there are much better drugs out there, this isn't a combonation worth fucking with.
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oh, and then wanderer drops some science my cat didn't even see before that post.. ALRIGHT. trust that poster his hamster is well read and is a lot more trust worthy than my cat getting emotional about his fucked up panther friend
my cat thinks the moral of the story here is just 'don't push it, just come on, man.'