This thread has more misinformation in it than I can handle and worries me.
Vyvanse has never been manufactured in a form where the capsule is the method to deter abuse. You did not take Vyvanse. The method of deterring abuse in Vyvanse is at a molecular level of the drug
. If you took a capsule with beads in it and it was an amphetamine
, you most likely had Adderall
XR or an authorized generic (and to debunk the whole "brand name Adderall XR is way better" funnybusiness, an authorized generic means the brand name manufacturer, in the case of Adderall XR, Shire still makes them all and at the end, Teva Pharmaceuticals, Impax Laboratories, and Watson Pharmaceuticals [formerly Actavis] who have contracts with Shire to slap their names on Shire's product, sell it at a cut rate but not nearly as cheap as an actual generic, and bring back a portion of profits to Shire and the respective companies who simply distribute pocket money as well).
Microwaving Vyvanse will do absolutely nothing. You can't cook the lysine molecule off. You'll more than likely end up just causing the lisdexamfetamine
1:2 is not the correct equivalency of d-amp to Vyvanse. The conversion rate of lisdexamfetamine to dextroamphetamine base is 0.2948. 25 mg of Vyvanse (though a 25mg capsule isn't made) is molecularly equivalent to 10 mg of Dexedrine.
All smoking or insufflating (as well as IVing, dear god, so glad no one has wanted to here lol) is going to waste a fun time, probably hurt your sinuses or lungs. It's dumb, you can get a really enjoyable high from taking it orally and allowing your body to convert the lisdexamfetamine into something actually bioavailable and that doesn't just get registered almost as nothing but instead gets to converted into l-lysine (an amino acid
) and d-amphetamine which is obviously bioavailable and your brain will jump on it. Only a biochemical process will do that. Pure and simple. There is no free d-amphetamine in LDX (lisdexamfetamine), it's not bioavailable until your body does a little magic and turns LDX, the snoozefest therapeutically inactive molecule that your brain finds boring into d-amphetamine that your brain can have fun with.
If your goal is to get a high and the substance in question is like Cinderella and if you have the wrong glass slipper (you smoked it, snorted it or god forbid, slammed it) well, that's depressing as hell, but if you have the right one which is like taking it by mouth like it should be taken, it's happily ever after, hell yes and you know that's all you need to do, what's up with being so hellbent against just taking the pill? I guess if you want to turn a good time into boogers you'll enjoy blowing into a tissue later, that's up to you. I just don't get it. And yeah, I know my relating it to Cinderella was baffling.
And some anecdotal experience as someone who has been on 10mg Dexedrine (IR) 6 times a day, 70mg Vyvanse daily, and 120mg Adderall (IR) total daily for ADHD. They all are unique in their own way in how you feel. It could be having ADHD that makes those subtle differences easy for me to spot, or it could be easy for anyone if you just pay attention. Adderall IR is what works best for me by far (unfortunately, I went on the Dexedrine and Vyvanse ventures because of not wanting to have such a high dose of amphetamines
daily but no luck) because for me, unlike Dexedrine, Adderall is able to keep my mind under control and my fidgeting/physical symptoms of ADHD under control, too. Dexedrine was very very mental, I had beyond focus but hyperfocus. And it did nothing to help me keep my physical symptoms in check. I felt like Grover from Sesame Street, flailing all over lol. Vyvanse was interesting. It caused extreme and rapid mood swings and nasty angry outbursts mainly toward my husband, oops. I was a hot mess, I didn't realize it was the Vyvanse for about a month but I started to dread taking it and wasn't sure why and then it clicked. Back to Adderall. My husband takes Vyvanse and it works really well for him. It just depends on a person's biochemical makeup. So just heads up that there actually are some little nuances with each one, at least from my experience.
Sorry if I came off cranky at first. All the stuff that floats around about Vyvanse in particular irks me and it worries me that someone is going to get hurt soon from just not taking the damn pill, lol.
I'm also fully aware of the age of the thread but I can see it's looked at frequently so if it's being referenced, it should at least have some accurate info.