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Old 16-03-2010, 15:58
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Crystal methylone

SWIM just received a batch of methylone. This time instead of being fluffy powder, it was white crystalline substance. He is now wondering if anyone else has encountered methylone of this kind and weather it's possible to do synthesis differently resulting in crystals? SWIM is aware there is crystal mephedrone.
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Re: Crystal methylone

It's not an issue of a different synthesis, simply of how much purification one does after the synthesis process.

The fine powders are ball milled, typically for appearance's sake.

The crystals are the same compound, dissolved in a solvent that will dissolve the compound but not impurities. Impurities drop out and can be removed (filtering/more complex approaches) while the solvent containing the compound is then (evaporated/etc) to yield a more pure product.

The crystals could then be ball milled, and would look effectively identical to the powder. But people like crystals and think they are pretty, so they sell better.

The issue is simply: can the producer do a solvent wash with less cost than the resulting increase in profit from charging more to people who prefer "crystal". The answer is typically no unless volumes are high - which is why you see it with mephedrone but not the 2Cs, for example.

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Old 18-03-2010, 03:33
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Re: Crystal methylone

SWIM has also aquired some of the crystal methylone,
He was expecting powder but It had the same horrible bitter taste.

At first he thought It might be mephedrone but the effects were the same as all his previous experiences with methylone only he noticed he managed to do 500mg In one night - a bomb then some bumps In a bathroom stall, He wouldn't recommend that ROA.
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Re: Crystal methylone

What is the best way to recrystallise methylone or mephedrone?


SWIM tried it this morning with crystal mephedrone

Dissolved in naphtha and evaporated with heat lamp gave the same size crystals as he started with; smaller than 1mm.

Dissolved in water and heated in microwave like ketamine gave a fine powder when scraped up, with the old school mephedrone stench.
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Re: Crystal methylone

when swim evaporates when extracting DMT he gets larger crystals if swim let's the naphtha evaporate slowly over the course of a few days. Might be the same for Mephedrone and Methylone?
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Re: Crystal methylone

swim stumbles upon a bit of crystal methylone presented as moon rock. the substance was ver solid and hard to reduce into powder. then weighed at .200 swim proceeded to snort it. burned but not nearly as bad as mephedrone. felt onset within 2-3 mins, after swim's nose calmed down. speedy at first but the speed unique to beta-ketones. It seemed to have much higher potency than the powder methyonle ive had but swim got the crystal from different location than the powder. peeked at hour n a half and by 3 n a half hours after consumption started crashing, down by 4hrs. swim weighs 135lbs n has used beta-ketones quite a bit

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