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swim recently acquired a large amount of promethazine w/ codeine (his favorite drug) and has been experimenting with different ways of taking it.
covering a cigg in it is ok, but has an odd taste (not necessarily bad, just odd) and swim doesnt know if it does anything.
However, swim was smoking some tar and decided to smoke some of the syrup off the foil like tar. At first it just bubbles and theres no smoke but soon after it turns into a brown, goo-type thing and smokes like crazy. seems to work pretty well too!! swim feels great but knows a more proper experiment testing how strong this is would have to be done when swim is sober and not feeling the effects of taking it orally or any other drug.
I agree, I have never heard of smoking codeine before, I have never taken codeine rectally but i have taken other drugs rectally and i too find it hits you alot faster and harder, Although like IV it doesn't last as long as taken orally. SWIM would suggest it, If SWIY does decided to do codeine (or any drug for that matter) rectally SWIM would suggest SWIY gets a large slurrpy type straw...heat one end with a lighter so it curls a little bit and isent sharp then inserting it THEN putting the desired amount in the straw.
Personal added 2 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...
I apologize, SWIM accidently self incriminated. Any mods please help SWIM out quickly? No edit button.
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well swim isnt quite sure if it worked or not because he had already been smoking tar,
but swim plans on trying the experiment tomorrow to see if it actually worked as good as he thought, or was just because he had already used.
swim will give you guys an update tomorrow
div4our added 591 Minutes and 21 Seconds later...
well, swim just conducted part 2 of his experience and it doesn't seem like the syrup gets you very high if you smoke it off foil. I know dipping your finger in it and rubbing it on a cig works but i wouldn't recommend smoking it off foil.
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Swim knows of this. The Texas scene has being doing this since the early 90's. Promethazine/codeine syrup is put into the interior of a cigar/philly/cigarillo and then usually marijuana is placed on top and rolled, and the finished "sweet", marijuana cigar is then dipped into the promethazine/codeine again and smoked. Swim tried it several times a very long time ago before giving up marijuana, and it seemed to be a waste of time and money to him. Swim doesn't recommend it. Stick to sippin'.
I knew about "dipping" blunts and joints in lean but I hadnt heard of anyone smoking it off of foil so I decided to post about it
Oh ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Swim would like to think that method would be useless. If you have the actavis brand purple syrup, then drinking it would be the ABSOLUTE best option due to the great taste.
Codeine being smokeable is news to me, but it shouldn't be.
Swim suggest rectal usage/plugging if one isn't squeamish about that type of thing. Far superior to every type of admin for him except IV/IM.
Thank you for sharing. First Swim heard of this on this board.
Whilst rectal administration of a lot of opiates results in much greater bioavailabilty and hence absorption this is not the case with codeine. It has practially the same bioavailabilty orally and rectally ~ 90%. Rectally may be a tiny tiny bit better but with it being 90% orally there is no point going to the extra effort of plugging it.
To get the most out of codeine with promethazine SWIM takes it with some calcium carbonate, magnesium supplements and some loperamide.
SWIM is pretty sure you cannot smoke codeine without it being freebased first. Although it may work slightly like smoking cocaine in spliffs but nowhere near as strong as say smoking crack which is freebased. Not sure if you could do that with syrup though.
Oh and obviously you can't IV/IM codeine as it will cause a lot of health problems.
Rectal versus oral absorption of codeine phosphate in man
Frits Moolenaar *, Germ Grasmeijer, Jan Visser, Dirk K. F. Meijer
Department of Pharmacology and Pharmacotherapeutics, State University of Groningen, Ant. Deusinglaan 2, 9713 A W Groningen, The Netherlands
*Correspondence to Frits Moolenaar, Department of Pharmacology and Pharmacotherapeutics, State University of Groningen, Ant. Deusinglaan 2, 9713 A W Groningen, The Netherlands
Abstract Rectal absorption of codeine phosphate from various dosage forms was studied in man. The rectal dosage forms included aqueous solutions and fatty suppositories. A comparison was made with an orally administered solution. The plasma concentrations of codeine were measured by means of HPLC analysis after a single dose of 60 mg codeine phosphate in a cross-over study in 7 volunteers. Compared with oral dosing rectal absorption from an aqueous solution or a fatty suppository produced an almost identical plasma concentration profile with similar interindividual variations. Comparing the absorption rate characteristics it appeared that rectal absorption from an alkaline solution containing codeine phosphate proceeded significantly (P < 0·05) more rapid than after oral dosing. No essential difference in bioavailability was observed between the various rectal and oral dosage forms.
Received: 26 July 1982; Revised: 15 October 1982
swim simply put a few drops on some foil like he was smoking tar, and smoked it the same way.
The syrup just bubbles at first with no smoke/vapor but then turns a light brown color and then comes a TON of smoke. Swim wouldn't really recommend this method over drinking it, but swim thought it was fun to mess around with, as it was just a few drops and not a big deal.