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Old 05-05-2010, 06:02
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Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

Swim has been perscribed 20mg of Adderall XR for ADHD and was wondering about anything like vitamins, foods, and drinks that would help prolong and increase the effectiveness. Mainly because swim does not want to increase his perscription to 30mg but he wants to make the pills work more effectively so swim can function a little bit better during the day. Swim has done a minor bit of research and he has seen that Tums might help a little (has to do with acid levels in the stomach or somthing) ,but swims still looking for any other foods, vitamins, and drinks that could also help thanks.

Thrasher added 223 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...

Swim is still looking for help, he really doesnt want to up the dose

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Old 05-05-2010, 13:57
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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

Swim uses sodium bicarbonate. Due to the chemistry of amphetamine (it is slightly basic due to its nitrogen group), by raising the pH of the stomach one can enhance the absorption of amphetamine and, theoretically, achieve higher peak serum levels. Furthermore, by raising (alkalizing) one's urinary pH the renal tube re-absorption can be enhanced, causing drug retention (and prolonging the drug's presence in the body).

This is all said with the recommendation for caution. Though altering these pHs will not create any drastic changes in one's experience (but might improve/heighten it a bit), they can alter the drug's duration considerably. Coffee is also postulated to potentiate the effects of amphetamine--though, again, not considerably, and many people find this combination unsettling.

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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

Yeah, Swim remembers a similar thread a while back re amp potentiation.

(Swims got a list of 8 to 10 Opiate potentiators). As for potentiating a recemic

mix of two forms of amphetamines like adderall.. Swim suggests trying to switch to

Dexedrine- it uses just the most potent form of amphetamine- (D) and is one notch

higher on the Amp scale. It's used for ADHD much the same as Ritalin or Adderall

and is in fairly wide use, especially with the toddler crowd, ages 3- 6yrs, and U.S. Jet

Pilots on long missions over Iraq/Afghan.'n.

Otherwise, you could experiment with the baking soda/ tums thing and note any

effects. Just start by titrating upwards, with caution. BTW, Dextrorotary says

how, "by lowering the pH of the stomach one can enhance the absorption of

amphetamine." Uhm, don't you mean it would raise pH, thereby lessening stomach

acidity?-Indeed, G.I. acidifying agents Lower absorption of amphetamines!

Swim thinks he recalls specifically the OTC acid reducer/heartburn med

Cimetidine (200mg, works for 24 hrs.) also known as Tagamet (brand name).

Moreover, No beta blockers, MAOIs, sedatives/antihistamines, and some B.P. meds-

pretty obvious stuff.

Also, nothing adds to the effects of amphetamine like other stimulants- most

notably caffeine (pill forms contains a whopping 200mg). However, mixing a Sch. II

amphetamine with Any type of stimulant (OTC included) can get pretty hardcore.

Use only with extreme caution if at all.

Lastly, Adderall XR could (theoretically) be insufflated; which just

makes for a much quicker absorbtion but might lessen duration.
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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

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Dextrorotary says

how, "by lowering the pH of the stomach one can enhance the absorption of

amphetamine." Uhm, don't you mean it would raise pH, thereby lessening stomach

acidity?-Indeed, G.I. acidifying agents Lower absorption of amphetamines!
yeah, mistype/accidental inversion. my bad.
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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

Ah thank you swim appreciates the help
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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

Coffee has really help my cat
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Re: Increasing the Effects of Adderall?

it needs to be the salt to be soluble and absorbe into your system. Do not raise the pH of your stomach that will decrease the solubility

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