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Old 06-05-2010, 22:07
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Is alcohol a narcotic?

Is alcohol a narcotic?

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Old 06-05-2010, 22:20
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

that pretty much depends on what you understand by each term... Bit swim thinks alcohol means normal spirit...

So, narcotic: if by that swiy means that it lessens pain and causes sleep.. then yes, to a degree. if by narcotic you mean opiate like effect (meaning binding to opioid receptors in the brain) then no.

Please try to be a bit more specific as to the question....
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Old 06-05-2010, 23:07
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

'Narcotic' is a stupid, improperly used term the DEA used for decades as a synonym for 'illegal drug' (calling LSD, mushrooms, etc 'narcotics'). I would argue it really lacks meaning at this point and should more or less be dropped from the drug vocabulary.

The 'real' definition, is any drug which causes a sleep-inducing effect. In that sense, yes, alcohol is a narcotic. But again, swim thinks this is an archaic, inaccurate term.

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Old 06-05-2010, 23:51
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

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'Narcotic' is a stupid, improperly used term the DEA used for decades as a synonym for 'illegal drug' (calling LSD, mushrooms, etc 'narcotics'). I would argue it really lacks meaning at this point and should more or less be dropped from the drug vocabulary.

The 'real' definition, is any drug which causes a sleep-inducing effect. In that sense, yes, alcohol is a narcotic. But again, swim thinks this is an archaic, inaccurate term.
Excellent-response.

Yes, alchol is a narcotic. No, that's not synonymous with "illegal-drug". The latter is propaganda that's become (courtesy of the mass-media) embedded in the public-opinion.

It's been millenia since "narcotic" has been regularly used in it's true-form.
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Old 07-05-2010, 00:15
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

In SWIM's home country we don't have a word for drug:-(

The pharmaceutical drugs are called 'medicine'.
Alcohol is called 'alcohol'.
And everything else (except cannabis) is called 'narcotics' or 'stuff'.

There are obviously many problems with the ways these words are used in everyday speak.
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Old 07-05-2010, 00:32
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

Indeed, there's a huge issue with how these terms are used in "everyday-parlance"...

Pharmacologically-speaking, a narcotic is any substance that induces sleep. In SWIM's home-country any prescription-drug is known as "meds" or "pharms". Illegal drugs are known by specific terms ("bag", "teenth"-or-whatever...)

SWIM's sure there's a comparable terminoligy in SWIY's home-country... there's simply the worrying idea that "narcotic"="illegal-drugs", and SWIM's-afraid this terminoligy found it's nascency in the American-political-system... :/

It doesn't define any incessant-blame, as far as the individuals-are-involved, but it worries SWIY that a US political-ideal has become a defining-feature of UK-politics...
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:27
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

The official definition of 'narcotic' is an opiate type drug/painkiller that reduces/removes pain,alters mood/ behaviour and usually can induce sleep. (although some websites suggest that alcohol has been considered a narcotic)

It is also loosely used as a term for any kind of illegal street drug.

Swim would say it depends on how one reads into the definition. If one takes the literal defintion then no, its not a narcotic. If alcohol is an illegal substance in a particular country, then if one was to use 'narcotic' in a slang term for 'illegal drug', then maybe.

In either case swim would say (only in his own opinion), that alcohol is not a narcotic, but again this is just swims opinion from the tiny amount of research he did.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:50
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

From the literal definition, alcohol is a narcotic. The root 'narc' is greek for sleep/sleeping, and according to online dictionaries -otic- means 'brought to the condition of'. If you want to say that well, it has to be an opiate, that's incorrect (or should be) because high doses of opiates induce insomnia, thereby making the opiate-dependent definition of narcotic contradictory.

All readings of the word narcotic should refer to a substance which causes one to sleep.
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

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The official definition of 'narcotic' is an opiate type drug/painkiller...If one takes the literal defintion then no, its not a narcotic.
Not to be TOO anal, but...

Drugs like Naltrexone (an opiate agonist) have been developed, and first marketed, as a treatment for alcoholism, and have had some success in that application. Additionally, there has been some research that alcohol metabolites (specifically, isoquinolines) act upon the opiate receptors, particularly in those susceptible to alcoholism.

So, by your given definition, I'd say the answer to the question "Is alcohol a narcotic?" would be "kinda."
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

What is your home country and what language is spoken there?
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Old 08-05-2010, 15:38
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Re: Is alcohol a narcotic?

I disagree that the word should be dropped. It's great vintage terminology to throw around. Like "I'm sorry I spilled jalapeno sauce on your girlfriend's dress, Jimmy. I was on narcotics, man."

And don't forget it spawned "narc" as a derogatory term for low level government informants. Like "Why you looking through my sock drawer? You a narc? Because you're acting like a goddam narc."

So, you know?

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