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Old 22-06-2010, 00:30
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Injecting Hydromorphone

Hey,

I was prescribed 2mg pills of generic Dilaudid. They aren't working taking them orally, and not so much snorting either. So I want to try injecting 1-2mg.

They are mallinckrodt with m 2 markings. Are these safe to inject? This will be my first time injecting anything.

If you have some time, and are familiar with dilaudid can you please post a quick step by step? I've got a wheel filter, 20cc syringes, cotton, spoons, and that's about it for now. I'll buy whatever needed. Also, I would prefer saline, but i'm gonna have to go with distilled water. All I have is irrigation USP type sodium chloride and it says not for injection on the bottle.

I'm looking for the cleanest way to inject with using distilled water. There's just so much different information, I don't know which way to do it.

Thanks.
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Old 22-06-2010, 02:00
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

Hey Bongkey, Princess done some looking around and found some information she hopes you find helpful. Also, IV administration of pills is very dangerous but if swiy is going to do it anyway, please do lots of research and be very careful.

Dilaudid®
Hydromorphone Hydrochloride: 2 mg, 4 mg, and 8 mg Tablets.

1. Fold up a glossy magazine cover or a crisp new bill into quarters.

2. Insert the pill inside. Crush it forcefully and thoroughly with the back of a tablespoon or a hammer (crush, not bang).

3. When you open the paper, you should see a finely powdered version of what used to be a pill. Transfer the contents to a spoon (or whatever you use to cook your drugs).

4. Add 0.75 cc (0.75 ml) of warm water. Stir, stir, stir. Let it sit for a minute or two.

5. Draw the contents into a syringe through a cotton. (SWIY should Research on filtering etc, apparently micron filters are best)
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Old 22-06-2010, 02:43
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

The old broad doesn't have much specific info on hydromorphone, but has done a fair amount of tablets. Most of the information above is useful, the only part of it that she would really suggest avoiding would be to use a piece of paper money due to all the crap that's usually found on money. The glossy magazine would be a LOT safer.

For the OP, there's a couple of things that the old broad would want to pass on. First, people need to be careful of self incrimination. Everyone must remember to tell the tales of the antics of our pets or our friends since none of us that write here ever do unlawful things.

A 20cc/ml syringe is a bit much unless one is wanting to tranquilize a horse. lol. She would probably recommend regular 1cc/ml syringes. Ideally fine gauge needles (29-31). And be sure to prime the filter with clean water beforehand otherwise some of the solution will be lost to the filter.

As for what's the best water options in the local area, the old broad doesn't have much for an answer since she wasn't using needles the last time that she was in Canada.
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Old 28-06-2010, 23:00
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

invest in a box of little sterilizing towelette pads. !
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Old 29-06-2010, 03:44
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

Please don't crush pills on money and then inject it seems like a quick way to catch something...

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Money bills are indeed dirty, good safety reduction point.
Many people don't realize this, but it's an extremely valid statement in terms of reducing bacteria in your injection!
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:44
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

it is probably best to not inject hydromorphone but i have read that it is possible, but care must be taken always
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Old 03-01-2012, 15:49
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

I can't say it's safe to inject anything. But when it comes to any pill form of an opiate, hydromorphone is easily the safest and easiest to shoot.

Again, I do shoot, and it took me a bit of time to gather the courage to do so. But with the right knowledge and info, dilaudid is by far an amazing rush when IV'd and even though I plug it once in a while, it's not comparison to bangin it.

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Old 03-01-2012, 16:06
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

The rush from shooting dilaudids is so intense that it is described by some as quite painful. Shooting any pill is a very bad idea, due to the binders, fillers, and other assorted crap that Big Pharma puts in their product. Similar, in fact, to shooting street drugs, once you think about it.

I would also strongly suggest that you DO NOT try to do a whole 2 mg. pill at once, especially if you are a novice to recreational opiate use. Remember-you can always do more, but you can never do less! Once the plunger hits the bottom of the barrel, there is no turning back. You might also seriously consider having someone who is not using drugs to sit with you for the first time or two, just in case you screw the pooch and do too much. That way, you will be alive to think about how silly you were!

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Old 19-02-2012, 18:42
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

How long does the rush from IV hydromorphone last ? and the effects ? also is there a method of filtering that completly removes any fillers and non soluble matter ? i have the 4mg ones and they are very small looks like they have almost no fillers..
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:51
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

Swim has a picc line and injecting Dilaudid is so easy. He receives 120 10ml .09% Saline syringes weekly, along with micron filter straws and sterile syringes etc.
Swim gets 60 4mg Dilaudid every 10 days. He usually injects 2 tabs at once.
What he does is crushes them and dissolves them (2 pills in 1ml of sterile saline) in a larger syringe. Then he attaches the micron straw to a sterile syringe and draws it up. Simple as that.
He cleans one more time with alcohol pad and bam! Injects in the picc line, and flushes with 10ml of saline and gets the most amazing rush known to man. Swim also gives injections to a friend who broke his foot and doesn't have insurance. He put his foot in a soft mold cast and gives his friend 4mg diluted in 1.5ml of saline. His friend says the rush is great but his pain disappears in seconds.
That's the best part according to swim. He has a severe back problem which is requiring a fourth surgery in 7 months. After he administers the 4-8mg in the picc line, his pain disappears for hours, completely!
This is a safe pill to inject, IF you do it right. Of course, injecting anything has its risks, which is why you must be extremely careful and safe while doing it if you decide to do it.
Good luck!

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Old 02-12-2014, 20:45
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

SWIM gets 90 4mg hydromorphone hcl tablets a month, but he is also a heroin addict. Judging from what he has read on here, the pills should be much more powerful, so he he ends up trading his pills for the H, he worries that he is just preparing the pills incorrectly to use IV. So he ends up going through 90 pills very fast, so I would like to know the correct way to prepare 4mg Hydromorphone HCl for IV use, because sometimes he will do 8mgs and it will knock his balls off its so intense, but sometimes hell do 16mg and feel nothing

Fast response would be awesome

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Old 02-12-2014, 23:19
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

You know, if you "need answers fast" you could do some reading. There's like a million threads on injecting pills.

You can't, it simply isn't safe to inject pills.
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

You should never inject pills.

However, it never seems to stop some of us and I must admit Dilaudid are my DOC. This is the problem. Think your in heaven when you have plenty of them but you'll know your in hell when you run out. Hard to leave them alone. The rush from them is moreish.

If you have to inject pills, look into wheel filters. I DON'T want to encourage you.. Everyone looks back at some point in their life and remembers a pivotal event or feeling they would like to re-capture or delete. This may turn out to be one of those, particularly if you have legitimate pain.

Think hard about injecting hydromorphone.. very hard to stop and hard to forget.
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:17
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

Could someone please tell me what's the difference between bottled, distilled and saline water? Thanks!
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Old 11-12-2014, 20:35
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

Bottled water means it comes in a bottle. I would not assume anything more*.

Distilled water has been boiled and the steam collected, this is a nearly perfect way of removing impurities. Properly distilled water should be 100% H2O.

Saline is a salt solution. Medical Grade saline is generally designed to be isotonic in the body, that is the salt concentration should match your body's salt levels. Do you know how osmosis works and how it relates to cell death through lysis? You should look into that to understand why isotomic solutions are important.


*including the definition of water in this case.
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

So Chico knows that with the 4mg yellow ones, when they are put in water they leave all this chalky substance. How is that diluted/used or are you loosing most of it in that residue? Is he using heat or how to dilute? The yellow 4's do have filler and if someone could help solve that or give proper step by step instruction is great. Turns into a milky consistency which would not be desirable to inject but Chico is new to it to help his pain. Don't like seeing this frustration.
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Re: Injecting Hydromorphone

LazyLightning,

Your questions are a giveaway that you have no clue what you are doing.
This is not bad, you can learn about it easily by reading on the DF.
What at least *I* will not do is spoonfeed you a "technique", because this way you will not learn but only imitate with no knowledge. All I tell you could be bullshit and you wont even know.

You need to read the Wiki of the substances in Question and be sure you understand.

We also have a social group about Reducing Harm in i.v. drug use.

But: potter above is right, injecting pills is never safe, even with the necessary tools you wont be able to prepare it to the point of safety that you get with ampoules.

I promise you, the answers on your questions will be clear when you follow my advice.

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