Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world. We serve over 3 million readers per month, and have costs like all popular websites: servers, hosting, licenses and software. To protect our independence we do not run ads. We take no government funds. We run on donations which average $25. If everyone reading this would donate $5 then this fund raiser would be done in an hour. If Drugs-Forum is useful to you, take one minute to keep it online another year by donating whatever you can today. Donations are currently not sufficient to pay our bills and keep the site up. Your help is most welcome. Thank you.
SWIM has been a die-hard Kratom fan for quite some time now, and has ALWAYS enjoyed his time under the influence of Kratom, sometimes though he has had a way more fun then compared to other times, (just sitting around on the couch nodding would be primarily the "other times")
SWIM would like to discuss the things you enjoy to do on Kratom. (not just sitting around nodding on the couch, but SWIM thinks if you some super couch that has a great synergy with Kratom, please tell.) Not only would SWIM like to discuss the things people do while on Kratom, he would like to talk about the things you are capable of doing while on Kratom and the things that SWIY is able to do "easier" or "better" whilst on Kratom. He's very curious about the latter specifically since SWIM can do his classwork and homework way more efficiently and effectively and enjoy school way more when on Kratom. Also SWIM finds running while coming down off Kratom is the easiest thing in the world and could run for miles. (Which SWIM does of course! )
Please do not mistake this thread about SWIM asking for experience reports, he is quite aware of the magical effects of the plant. More like activities that you have linked to Kratom, things you have found easier to do (etc), or mystical/spiritual connections and/or epiphanies you have made with Kratom. As well as maybe how Kratom has changed you as an overall person.
For example, SWIM's number thing to do while on Kratom is to explore the woods and/or hike or just simply explore the city. It just seems so blissful and the times SWIM has had are just vivid and magical, they just keep bringing back SWIM to buy more. SWIM simply does nothing but walk around, always with a friend, and just talks to them and he seems to have the deepest and most empathic conversations one could think of.
Also SWIM has experienced a permanent effect from taking Kratom. He has become an optimist in all meaning of the definition. Every since he became a Kratom user he has realized that whenever he is down he is able to pick himself up and get going again, since his blissful time on Kratom showed him that he shall live to see a brighter day and he shouldn't sweat it on pointless things that soon shall pass. SWIM is not saying that he doesn't care about anything any more, his motivation is still top-notch and is a competitive athlete. just now he tends to only look at the brighter side of things. (And not in some ignorant "EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE PERFECT" kind of way either, just brighter!)
SWIM doesn't know if this should have gone into another thread, but he did not find anything specifically like about what he was talking about.
So SWIM is very curious with what "your relationship" (for lack of a better phrase to coin my question(s) about Kratom and You.) is with the beautiful, magical, sparkling (not really :P), and mind-numbingly awesome herb Kratom. Or horrible, distasteful, and pathetic herb, whichever is your opinion, or even in between those two opinions! Hah!
Last edited by Mr.Bliss; 26-06-2010 at 22:03.
Reason: Spelling Error
Swim likes to hit the weights after a good 7 grams. Its especially helpful to swim when doing yard work and stuff.
Nodding off is only good for swim at higher doses
All in all swim likes to be active on kratom only downside is constipation, but thats nothing stool softeners and laxatives wont fix.
hit the weights??? you mean weight lift? swim never feels up to something like weight lifts on kratom. Swim uses kratom as a back drop to going on to a bar or to a friends house to smoke. swim eats about .7 of 50x full spectrum a dose.
SWIM likes smoking spice on kratom to produce a very vivid and couch locking high. SWIM's best experience was with a full spectrum tincture that had him floored for hours. SWIM gets productive on certain strains and starts to clean his house and organize things.
SWIM has made sure to spread out how many days he takes kratom due to reading so many horrible reports of people getting worse withdrawls than heroin.
nah the withdrawls cant even touch heroin. swim supposes possibly if someone used kratom to stop heroin withdrawls, it could have a rebound effect.or if someone was using kratom for like 10years straight. but swiy should do some research books are the best source of info. swiy can also read stuff online
If SWIM doesn't feel the desire to just sit/lie down and listen to music then they'll probably end up working out. SWIM sometimes gets an urge to just write random papers or rants simply to reflect on things because they feel the kratom helps them focus a little better.
SWIM always uses kratom by themself, never in the presence of friends. After reading the OPs post SWIM is going to try out walking around the woods or something similar the next time they make some tea.
SWIM tries to restrict servings of crushed leaf in a tea to dosages between 5 and 10 grams and uses maybe once every three weeks or so, sometimes one or two times more in that window. Kratom is easily one of SWIMs favorite drugs and can see themself becoming addicted so moderation is something they always have to force themselves to resort to.
i love to watch movies when i take kratom. specifically crime movies (i love rooting for the bad guys) and super hero movies (watchmen). I also enjoy watching emotional movies, dramas, not romances. the number one thing i watch while on kratom is documentaries and the number one documentary was called "Senna" it was amazing and moved me to both tears of sorrow and joy.
Kratom is an amazing dream potentiator and has enabled me to go deeply into the world of lucid dreaming and astral travel.
I find that , not only does Kratom make you dream more vividly, but you're able to recollect them easier and also able to rejoin them after waking up to go to the toilet or something.
Before I go to sleep, I usually take around 6-8g of leaf.
This then starts to kick in at the moment of dropping into deep sleep and give you a sort of slight 'jolt' which makes your get intense bursts of colour and images.
It also enables me to realize I'm dreaming and thus, brings on a lucid dream.
I find that sleep in itself is amazing with Kratom, once you get used to the jolting effects.
Any physical labour is make easier and also the recovery time after exhersions is lessened.
SWIM wasn't really the book smarts kind of person in high school, he was rather lazy about learning, but since out of school he has found out one of his favorite things to do while on Bali or Maeng Da is to go and sit down at the local library, (kinda cool because it looks like a train station inside) and for some reason the quiet serenity he gets from taking kratom is even more peaceful when in the library with many other people but everything is still quiet, try it sometime. Go sit down at your library and just get lost in books, it makes for a rather peaceful day when SWIM is off work.
I've been using kratom on and off for a few years, and have found it to be one of the most beneficial and versatile herbs around.
I should start by saying that kratom is best used in moderation! Just like anything else, abusing this remarkable substance only leads to problems!
1. Studying/reading/writing. Kratom boosts my interest in just about everything. I love to read and write on kratom. Whether it be non-fiction or fiction, kratom definitely enhances this side of myself.
2. Music. Listening to music on kratom is pretty great. It's not quite as awesome as cannabis, but it's definitely very enjoyable. Kratom is particularly good for writing music, in fact... it's probably the best substance I've tried in this respect.
3. Walking and thinking about life. Kratom energizes me, and one of my favorite things to under it's influence is talk a nice walk and sort through different aspects of my life. This is one of kratom's most beneficial effects. It allows me to think about every area of my life, the good and the bad, and create solutions. It generally just allows me to sort my life out. Thoughts flow smoothly, and I feel brave, optimistic, and analytical, which really allows for some powerful introspection.
4. Socializing. Kratom destroys most of my social anxiety, and allows me to see past my social neurosis. Human interaction is always immensely satisfying. Empathy is greatly enhanced at times, and often a kratom session with a friend can allow us to tread on new ground and break through old boundaries.
5. Combining with psychedelics. Kratom combines EXTREMELY well with mushrooms. I've had some of my best psychedelic experiences with the kratom/mushroom combo. It's by far the best thing I have ever mixed with psychedelics.
6. House cleaning/reorganizing. Kratom makes me want to CLEAN! Sometimes I'll take some Thai, and just go to town and clean the entire house, rearrange furniture, organize desks, ect. It's great.
7. Movies. Kratom is great for seeing movies, probably my favorite substance for such occasions. Unlike classic opiates, it doesn't dull emotion, and unlike psychedelics (marijuana included), it doesn't cause much anxiety. I'm actually going to see Prometheus on some Bali in a few days!
That's about all that comes to mind at the moment.
I can't stress enough how important it is to CONTROL YOUR USE with kratom! Some people don't have serious WD symptoms from kratom, though others definitely do. Kratom is a wonderful, good leaf, and deserves respect just like every other entheogen. Respect the kratom, and it shall respect you back!
psychoanomaly added 6 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...
8. Philosophizing. Just as kratom is excellent for introspection, it is also great for all other kinds of thinking! I love to walk around and think about the cosmos on kratom, it is by far one of my favorite activities!
9. Enjoying nature. Kratom is superb for expeditions into the wild. Unfortunately I do not get out into the forest very often, as it's a good drive away, but when I do... WOW! Kratom just opens my mind and heart, intensifies my senses, and boosts my mind. It is wonderful in almost every situation.
Last edited by psychoanomaly; 23-06-2012 at 05:24.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I think the most enjoyable thing to do on kratom is to play video games. My OCD kicks in (in a positive way) and video games and related activities become very enjoyable. I like beating games, comparing them, basically the nerd in me explodes.
When I first started taking it, I perfered going to nice places and talking to friends. But I guess after the effects started dulling on me a bit, is when I started doing it more in my room and enjoying the nerd side of me more.
Kratom is one of SWIM's wonder-plants, with a special place in his heart along with MJ and a few exceptional others. Kratom is a "go time" plant, in that while a plant like MJ gives SWIM insight into his own depression and anxiety during solitary grace periods, kratom gives SWIM the confidence he needs when it is needed. It seems to remind SWIM that socializing isn't an act in service of the other person(s), but rather a personal experience, thereby allowing him to use his own neuroticism as a means of motivation in communicating with others. Use empathy to learn what you can because you are who your are and if anyone has a problem with it, fuck em. A healthy form of temporary apathy.
My FOAFOAF enjoys many activities while enjoying the effects of kratom:
Favorite being playing music. While he says it doesn't have as great of an effect as mj, he says that he is more creative and patient which are both great for music.
Second favorite for him is playing ps3 games...his favorite at the moment is NBA 2k12. Makes the experience more enjoyable and more "real" feeling. Makes the graphics look more intense and gameplay easier
Another great activity is sex. He states that it makes sexual activity more enjoyable by causing more sensations and greater sense of feeling in the sexual organs.
All around fantastic substance that is useful for everyday life activities and after work activities.
Just thought i'd add that kratom has helped swim cut down drinking from 6 days/week to 3 days/week (and lower amounts) as well as remove the need for valium at all. (used to take 10-15 mg twice a week now use purely for recreation about 15mg every two weeks)