Originally Posted by Solinari
Leukoencephalopathy, is that the thing that supposedly happens from using tin foil?
It's generally thought to happen because of smoking heroin
, yes - but not necessarily because of the foil. There have been ongoing reports of it but the experts don't really seem to know why it happens or how prevalent it is.
gives a brief overview (you have to pay to read the whole thing), indicating that they don't know what causes it, they can't recreate it in rats, and that incidents of heroin leukoencephalopathy were first recorded in 1982 (though smoking heroin first became popular in the 1950s they say)
They also state that it is only found in users who chase the dragon/smoke it.
However that conflicts with this other article I found
, which describes the case of a 38 year old IV user who was diagnosed with it. He almost always IV'd, but had snorted H about '5 times' - but never smoked it (he is from the US and must have had H4). So apparently some doctors are diagnosing it in users who did not smoke, which confuses the issue a little. He also shared his H with his wife who did not get the condition.
Note that both articles talk in terms of the disease being caused by pollutants in the street heroin, rather than by the foil itself (obviously in the second case as he never smoked)
It's not a thing that my towel worries about particularly. There's certainly no epidemic of it - if there was, the UK would be in trouble as nearly all UK heroin is the smokable kind and non-IV users therefore always smoke, never snort.
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Originally Posted by hashhead
swims pet does not want that lifestyle he already knows about it heard about it seen it in films he only wants to smoke it a few times swims pet dog is not planning on becoming a junkie
As others have said above, more or less everyone
who starts to use H says "I am not going to become a junkie, I don't want that." This includes all the users who do then in fact become junkies.
If one is going to dance with this devious Delilah, one must take supreme care and think hard about a strict and workable plan to stay safe. If SWIY uses too often SWIY will start to get withdrawal
symptoms when he stops. He will also increase his tolerance, requiring the spending of more and more money to get the same effects, or even just to prevent WDs. These two factors combine exponentially to make H go rapidly from 'reasonably priced occasional fun' to 'ruinously expensive daily habit that turns one into a fiend'.
He needs to plan his usage so these thinks can't happen, with lots of multi-day or week long breaks and with usage over multiple consecutive days kept to a minimum.
Then, if he still gets WDs despite his usage plan, he needs to accept them and take them
, and not
use again to prevent them! And then after going through WDs, if he ever wants to use again he has to review his plan and see where he messed up and ensure he doesn't get them again. But if he does, he must again accept them.. etc.
When one is chipping, the WDs that result will never be that
bad. SWIY has had colds/flu etc before, and can survive it - and the same is true of WDs. It's only when you keep taking more to prevent them, and then continue that for months and years, that the WDs become truly horrendous (which by then is a vicious circle keeping you using even longer)
Just those basic points is what turns many a person who "would never become a junkie" into a junkie.
My towel chipped for 4 months, then messed it up and became a daily smoker for 4 months at the end of last year. Then he stopped H for 9 months, using buprenorphine
) for a while before eventually tapering off that too. So his first attempt at chipping really wasn't very good.
He is now chipping again, only taking confidence in the fact that he showed several times he could and would take WDs and stay clean when necessary - and that he now knows how to use buprenorphine to taper off quickly while minimising WDs. So he feels some confidence in making a new chipping plan - though the emphasis is still very much on not even allowing dependance and tolerance to increase and therefore not getting any WDs in the first place. He will have a much stricter usage plan which is very carefully defined/structured compared to the first time he started chipping. And he's helping enforce it by keeping his H contacts 200 miles away.
He knows how easy it is to mess up and still can't say that he won't again this second chip attempt. If that does happen, he is committed to detoxing quickly with buprenorphine and then stop H chipping forever.
These too are, of course, words that many previous users have made and then still descended into despair. So my towel can't claim he has a solution and cannot advise anyone else except by suggesting that not starting at all is the one option where you're guaranteed not to get hurt.
"The game is rigged; but you cannot lose if you do not play."