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Old 02-05-2011, 03:18
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Problems finding a vein/missed shot?

Okay so today was the first time my cat has shot up. Ever. She acquired an oxy from her iguana and a needle. She did everything right for prep but when it came time to actually inject she had trouble. My cat has ALWAYS been a hard stick. At doctors and hospital visits there has always had to be a full on team of people to get an iv into her, her last hospital visit for an iv they even blew one of her veins in an attempt to get one into her, so she knew that today it was going to be a bit of challenge finding a good vein.
She poked around for a while at first, tried warming herself up, drinking a lot of water, the works. Her first couple tries she couldn't find one so she gave up, snorted the other half of her pill and forgot about it. Later my cat was bound and determined to shoot her shit. She took the very little remaining of her pill and poked back around one of the sites she had tried before and was positive she got a vein, she could even feel it go into her vein like she's felt before at the doctor's. She shot it and took it out, feeling the tiniest little buzz as there wasn't that much left. However after the area felt slightly hard and now it feels like, to her, almost a little bit of a lump is sitting beneath her skin. She is positive she in fact missed.
She knows that this shouldn't *shouldn't* be an immediate health threat to her but this whole IVing is so new to her, what should she do? Also in the future how can she be sure to find a good vein? She has chubby arms so the crease of her elbow is pretty much out of the question for her solo but her hands seem to be the place to get it from, how can she be positive next time? What are some more ways she can get her veins to surface a bit more?
Old 04-05-2011, 01:27
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Re: Problems finding a vein/missed shot?

Your cat mentioned that her hands seem to be the most viable place to shoot...so first off, does kitty know which gauge of needle she's using? The veins on the hand (paw?) are delicate and roll quite easily, so a syringe with a smaller sized needle would be best...something in the 29-31 range.

Also, when your cat thought she was in a vein, did she pull back to register? If she is in a vein, and she pulls back on the plunger, she'll see blood shoot in to the barrel of the syringe. If she's not in a vein, she'll only get air. A good method SWIM uses (although it probably wouldn't apply so much to the hand veins) is pulling back on the plunger just after breaking the skin, which creates a vacuum, and then pushing the needle in slowly...as soon as your cat hits a vein, she'll see blood shoot in to the syringe.

One more thing...shooting pills is significantly more dangerous than shooting other substances more designed for IV'ing (i.e. heroin). The best idea would be to filter through a wheel filer, which would get out all the wax and pill binders and what not.

Good luck!

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Old 16-07-2011, 13:54
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Re: Problems finding a vein/missed shot?

My Crash Test Android recommends (I hope this helps in any way):
buy a medical tourniquet, which can be operated with one hand, f.e. like this https://drugs-forum.com/forum/pic...ictureid=14194 . His needle often slipped out of the vein, while he was trying to remove an improvised tourniquet, also the pressure ( take care, that you don't tie up too tight or too long [>1min was described as too long] ) makes your veines more visible.
Also he mentioned, it helped him to use a short cannula (like the ones for insulin injection, but the smallest standard needles did also do the job quiet well), which was very slowly led into a vein (he mainly used his inner forearm, but he doesn't know if this part is "safe" for injections, also the following statement should be validated) until the needle was barely visible while the top of the syringe was touching his skin (maybe this could injure the vein, he does not know... but it helped him to hit and to remain inside the vessel).
Old 21-08-2011, 01:47
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Re: Problems finding a vein/missed shot?

Yeah, it's all about the register. Don't push until a burst of blood in the rig is visible. Kitty will know it when she sees it. Once Shea there, she needs to be steady and not let the point go in or come out even the slightest bit. I've heard that the biggest threat is when one registers, then pushes and misses, sending blood into the muscle? True? As for kitty..... Just be careful. She is starting down a road that most veterans wish they never did...

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