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hey guys.. swim wants to know whats the best way to maximize the effects of ritalin. Swim is use to opiates, but kicked them..got his hands on 6 5mg yellow ritalins..prob generic b/c they swin said they say methalyphetine sp? something like that.
Swim snorted 2 tonigt and swallwed 2 after crushing and putting in water. Not much effect.
Swim has 6 left..what does anyone reccomend..better to snort the lot of em tomorow..or swallem all...Swim s first time was tonight did 20 mg and not much happened...
Swm has a big get to getehr tomorow and would love to maximize the effects of the ritalin watever that would be....thanks
Snorting those pills is actually really hard on your nose, and is really not all that much better than just swallowing them. When I used to use them I would generally place them under my tongue and let them dissolve. They do not really have a "rush" associated with them (because injecting them is an even worse idea than snorting them), so if that is what you're looking for you are out of luck.
While the dose/response curve is different for everyone (this means be careful, people) in my opinion 20 mg is much too small of a dose to have all that much effect.
I personally would take 50 mg when I wanted to concentrate and study, and often quite a bit more when I wanted it to enhance my night. I know that my previous girlfriend only required 30 mg to experience benefits from it, and that most of the other people I know required at least 50 mg.
It is my opinion that the pills do not have much recreational value, as they tend to make one more irritated and edgy than euphoric or even "speedy".
When SWIM was a kid, many of his friends had either the 20 or 30mg tabs, and they would always grind'em up and suck'em back. That was the way they preferred. With only the 5mg tabs, there will likely be alot of filler, however, that would be the way swim would take them. Not a rush, but always a strong mood lift and lots of energy, especially mental energy.
SWIM thinks you should defiantly swallow them. I just posted a article yesterday on snorting Methylphenidate (Ritilan), check that out. In studies it has been proven that snorting Methylphenidate is much like snorting cocaine, just not as strong, crazy, eh? By snorting the pills, you will also feel the effect faster. SWIM's friend use to be prescribed to Methylphenidate and her and her friend would snort 2 or so and could defiantly feel the effects, but SWIM's friend also told me he could swallow five or six and also feel the effects of a recreational dose...let us know what you do!
When Bongo was a young ape, his WAY-ex ladyfriend suggested that he try snorting some ritalin. It was at a high school party. The young lady had been getting prescriptions for $20 from a croaker who had been exposed on a TV news cast. She saw the news show and sought him out. A croaker being a doctor who would write a prescription for whatever one wanted - this one charged $20. And he was quite famous at this point. The news spotlight team showed a street junkie walking into his office and returning with a prescrition for desoxyn (methamphetamine).
It was a 10mg pill, ground into a blue powder. Up the nose it went. And what followed was the most massive sneezing fit ever witnessed by Bongo's schoolmates and faculty. He lost count after 25 forceful AHHHCHOOOO's!!!
For the next 48 hours, Bongo suffered all the symptoms of a bad head cold with sore throat. The ritalin had some effect so, aside from the head cold, Bongo also had a delightful quasi-anxiety attack for a couple of hours.
The young lady continued to visit the croaker. And became more and more strung out on the crap. She got to a point where everyone was out to get her - or so she complained. Then she started pulling knives on her friends. That was the end of her friendships. Last known location: She was a heroin addict who had spent considerable time in prison for prostitution. And she has AIDS as well. She calls Bongo once in a blue moon looking for money.
The croaker was eventually arrested by the DEA. But not for illegally prescribing controlled substances. They busted him for income-tax evasion. Just like Al Cappone.
SWIM mainlines ritalin when he does them. He'll do 30 - 40 mg ritalin mixed with about 70 - 80 units of water. Each different brand/type of pill cooks up a bit differently. Some get waxy, some need more water, etc.
Do I have to insert here that I'm not advocating, blah, blah, blah.
Shooting ritalin is fairly new for SWIM and he's been keeping an eye on any posts dealing with the subject. So far the reading he's done has left him with the general impression that shooting pills is somewhat dangerous and shooting ritalin doesn't seem to be any more dangerous than most other pills. The rush is over so fast it may not seem worth it.
Before IV, SWIM would snort ritalin, which he did on the few rare occasions when he happened upon them.
SWIM has noted that most anyone who has a lengthy relationship with ritalin (like a couple years or more) almost never has anything good to say about it. Kinda like methadone.
SWIM suggests crushing them up and parchuting them. In his opinion that is the best and easiest way. It takes way too much work to clean them up for enjoyable insufflation, especially since its really not that great of a "high".
SWIM had 10mg novartis brand rits...used to crush them into a fine powder and snort them, 20mg at a time, 10mg in each nostril. great initial rush was found but did not last long at all. 20mg snorted required SWIM to do that every hour after that till crash time but each one never quite hit the level of that very first line.
SWIM found ingestion of the pills made them less potent and required 50-60mg orally to hit 20mg snorted. however, oral ingestion allowed for a longer duration experience, something SWIM would recommend if you are going into a social situation for a period of time. snorting also increased the chance of becoming very irritable after that first high peaked.
Swim his dose scale:
10-20 mg: A very low dose with slight effects, if one is not familiar with the effects its almost not noticeable.
20-30 mg: The effects are present but still not strong. On this dose its clear that the drug has been used.
30-40 mg: The effect are medium to strong and it starts to feel like amphetamine sulfate. This was for swim the best recreational dose. The side effects are getting noticeable (chewing, dilated pupils)
40-50 mg: This dose is a strong ritalin dose with full effects witch will last long, with this dose the side effects are also very noticeable. Especially the cotton mouth feeling.
50-60 mg: This dose is actually to high for recreation. The positive but also the negative effects are strong. But the problem with such a high dose is that it doesn’t add to the experience it rather prolongs it. This kind of dose will be rough on the heart.
All of these dosis where taken by means of insuflation. (assuming swim snorted once a night and no redoses)
Low dose: effects are slightly noticeable. It works stimulating but not for to long, euphoria is also felt but on the background.
Medium dose: effects are present and feel very nice, stimulation and euphoria.
High dose: with a too high dose the effects are strong but the side effect are stronger. Dehydration and heart problems are risks.
SWIM has found that 20 and 30XR ritalin and focalin give him way more of a speedy / jittery high as opposed to adderall
for SWIM to feel a decent high he usually will snort 60-90mg over the course of a few hours. SWIM uses cola often, so his stimulant tolerance is reasonably high. SWIM very much enjoys snorting ritalin / focalin... but he makes sure to inhale a tad of water in each nostrel to clear out the clumped up binding agents. about a minute before his next 30mg line SWIM administers 2 sprays of a saline nasal decongestant to prep his nose.
if the local cola supply is low SWIM can enjoy the recreational effects after taking 90-150mg over the course of the night (9pm - 9am).
Someone up there mentioned that Ritalin & friends are harder on the nose...but SWIM has found that to be untrue from her experience. Coke rips her nose up; she likes the stuff but can only do it for a few days (spreading 1/2 8ball out for 4-5 days), and then she has to take a couple weeks to recover. With Ritalin, the damage is not even close to that. SWIM won't bore with the icky details.
It could simply be that SWIM gets crappy coke, she knows she's had some truly horrid stuff (when it's bad enough to flush, y'know?), but recently she knew what sh had was fair, yet it still caused symptoms of sinus infection. Ritalin doesn't cause anything like this for her...in fact the difference is night and day.
SWIM isn't calling anyone out, just voicing her completely opposite viewpoint from experience. She knows Ritalin is full of filler (why can't coke dealers/cutters use the same thing? hehe), and would clean it if she knew how and found it worthwhile (still looking for more info on that).