Okay guys.. thanks everyone for the advice!! Greatly appreciated!
Here is the situation. I tapered from EXTREMELY high doses to around 200mg daily in a month then down to 80mg daily in another month. The past 3 or 4 days I have been set on quitting.
4 days ago I used: 15mg
3 days ago: 19mg
2 days ago: 5mg
today at 9am: VERY small amount.. 1 hit of an extremely weak blend I made for this purpose..1mg-2mg at most.
So I made a significant reduction the past 4 days.. and today I felt the worst (which is the 1st day I feel anything note worthy). Honestly.. it feels like minor opiate
withdrawal (which I am positive it is not). I have acute depression..how you feel in full blown withdrawal
except only a fraction as bad. But the same type of 'world closing in on you' & 'up and down unpredictable
' feeling. Most annoying thing is chills.. but they are not bad (yet! 'fingers crossed
'). I felt this level of chills about 30 days after quitting dope/weed
a long time ago.. they are manageable at that point but annoying.
I can't say for sure if the withdrawals have peaked or not, since I did have a small amount of JWH in me today. But I did drastically reduce the past 4 days.. if I did the same with dope or benzos
I would be HURTING right now.. so I am keeping my fingers crossed that things don't get worse and I dodged a bullet!
THANKS EVERYONE! SUPER NICE FORUM..!
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But anyway.. thanks for the help everyone, antizero, twin gat, overwatch, miss katie, fatal, addie, all greatly appreciated
Wish me luck.
Best regards to you all.
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Originally Posted by Addie Daddy
A taper sounds like a good idea.
Weed isn't like the RC Cannabinoids
. They can be more potent and have worse withdrawal effects. I was never quite up to the point you're at, hell not anything close to that, but it was daily use. And when I stopped it was a markedly different 'withdrawal' than with marijuana
. I actually felt depressed and shitty, weed never did that even when I stopped daily use. Many threads on the Cannabinoids blends show that the withdrawals can be much different.
I know it's not quite the same as heroin
perhaps, but for the amount he's doing, i would have a hard time too. I absolutely hate RC withdrawals when you smoke all day every day. Hopefully the taper will reduce any chance of psychiatric problems like friends situation, right?
About my friend.. yeah he is doing fine now after being in ICU for 5 days supposodly hallucinating and trying to tear the IV's out.. they had to tie him down. I have no reason to not beleive him...
I think I am out of the forest as far as that goes.. got my use WAY down from what we were both using together (we smoked the same blends). I had already reduced my blend by 50% at the time of his hospitalization, but only recently. It's sick in the head.. but tolerance can build like a bitch. You may not beleive me, or think it's possible, but it is. I was using 1g a day some days pure jwh the same batch even I am smoking now at mg levels. I just kept making stronger blends to get that really strong high.. topping out at 250mg jwh-210
It's just a practical warning...do not increase your dose.. I have been getting high the whole time I have been tapering (even the past 4 days I feel a slight buzz when smoking the really small amounts).
Personally, I will never smoke it again, and if I smoke anything, it will be weed, but if you do, the side effects
seem minimal at 80mg daily or less IMO.
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Damn I can't figure out how to edit.. I jus twanted to add, the drug
probably isn't so addictive for a lot of people. I have an addictive personality, and like I said, have had probs with other drugs
mainly dope and weed but also benzos.
So that in combination with an ultra cheap essentially free drug when you compare the cost to weed, can be bad LOL. But I will tell you, as I am wrigint htis, while I feel some chills and depression, I also feel a little positive because I am actually going through with it for once!
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Also wanted to add..my anxiety level is up but no worse than the times I quit weed. No panic attack
yet or anything like people describe in the 13 months thread (which is really what scared me, reading personal accounts from this board).
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Okay so 12 hours later.. I am a little worse but not much. I am getting pretty bad headaches, which seem pretty common quitting this stuff.
Never had that problem before.. RARELY ever got a headache. I almost feel like perma-stoned/headache..but I know it will dissipate.
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Hey guys!! Here is an update.. I have been truckin through it goin to NA for extra support..because I still have JWH around (scared the withdrawals would get too bad, but I should chuck it at this point lol), and I didn't want to take a chance using.
So the symptoms never really got worse since my last post..they have consistantly stayed the same. It's more annoying than anything.. I don't find my self breaking down and stuff like in opiate withdrawal.
I have the cold sweats (moderately...). While they are not bad..this is very annoying and the worst symptom. Makes it hard to sleep, hard to excersizem, etc... because your cannabinoid receptors (whatever they are called) apparently play some role in body temp regulation..atleast that is something I read. Mainly what happens is I will be outside in cold weather and sweat for no reason and get cold..or inside in hot heat and sweat and get cold.. theres no way to just be nice and warm.
It really feels like the tail end of opiate withdrawals.. and isn't extreme to the point its breaking me.. so I am going to be able to get through it.
The next worst thing is headaches.. diahreah (today for the 1st time) after having soome days of weird shits. And depression which has already gotten better than 2 days ago. So you can see, I am moving forward.
It's def worse than weed withdrawal, but I was a heavy user. I am REALLY glad I tapered. Some of the store bought blends are extremely potent...you might be smokin 600mg daily just smokin 4g's of that. Head trip blend was pretty comparible IMO to 150ish mg jwh per gram of incense. Maybe even more.. because I used that blend quite a few times when I was smoking my 250mg/g blend because I ran out or something.
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also, a positive thing which makes me feel like I am actually moving forward. I have more of an appetite now than i have the past 6 months no joke. It got to the point where it was seriously a mission to get a sandwich down before or after smoking. I ahve no idea what JWH210 was doing to my appetite (primary usage was 210 but also 2201), but it was really doin something negative.
This has started to go away already!