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AM-2201 Combinations Thread is to please remain on the topic of AM-2201 being combined with other drugs to achive synergistic effects or to potenate the positive effects of another drug, and what was the experience like?
SWIM has mild tolerance to store bought AM-2201 blends (which makes JWH blends moderatly tolerable). Every night SWIM smokes 1.5g of decently potant spice on average, occasionaly more. Effects of AM-2201 on SWIM are still strong, not the same as having just started but not enough tolerance to cause concern. SWIM is considerably knowledgable and experienced with light, mild, moderate, and heavy Cannabinoid use/abuse over short and long terms.
SWIM purchased a 3 gram bag of his favorite blend, and went to a friend's appartment where he was offered to vaporize crystal Methamphetamine and optionaly take GHB for a swirl. Since SWIM only does things like this a couple times a year, he was being open minded.
Methamphetamine, which I 'smoked' first, has always been one of SWIM's favorite party/social/sex-enhancing stimulants. SWIM is also prescribed Vyvanse (LisDexamfetamine) but finds Methamphetamine to be far stronger and euphoric than ADHD medication. SWIM thinks AM-2201 makes Dextroamphetamines more euphoric, and D-amps make AM-2201 more trippy. SWIM expected Methamphetamine to also have safe, positive synergistic effects in combination.
SWIM's plateaued Meth high couldn't get better. He was feeling a nice euphoric rush at peek affects and enjoyed the plateau, having forgetton all about the Herbal Incense. Probably because SWIM felt pleasant, hightened sences and stiumulation of all types. SWIM was somewhat chatty and felt close to his two other friends he was with.
Once AM-2201 Spice was introduced to Methamphetamine after smoking again, SWIM was unable to forget about spice again. AM-2201 effects take twice as long to reach peek, but are immediatly noticable. SWIM's heart remained steadily beating as fast as it was from Meth with no noted disturbances or alters. It made SWIM feel like he rolling on MDMA for comparison. Everything took on a soft glow, but super focused/crisp edges and surfaces. SWIMs forhead felt full of helium, and his chest felt on fire with euphoric elation and exaggerated well-being. SWIM litterally could stop talking for 2 minutes, it was impossible. His thoughts jumped from one thing to another, everything was interesting and SWIM couldn't stop asking questions. Every thought SWIM had left his head through his mouth with or without realizing. His thoughts were expanded and it was some what of a spiritual trip, but not at all dissociating.
SWIM liked the effects together, and wouldn't crave a hit for hours at a time. Effects were gone within 40 minutes. Every time SWIM mixed AM-2201 with his meth high he noticed different effects. Sometimes he would find himself super focused and super horny, even though meth alone does this, it's effects were synergisticly enhanced and potenated. Because of AM-2201 SWIM didn't want to mix GHB with Meth to get Swirly/liquid ecstafied. SWIM found using AM-2201 to reduce the redoing of Meth by extending the peek plateau effect of Meth and keeps it exciting and pleasurable. AM-2201 reduces the amphetamine stimulant crash and helps promote relaxation and hunger when used during/after. AM-2201 definitly can aid in amp-anxiody and reduce edgy feelings.
I've combined MDPV (Or mephedrone, it's unknown and I don't know what the strong distinction is) - with AM-2201 to have similar effects to Meth. I can second your experience of not feeling the urge to re-dose as often when combining these types of stimulants with AM-2201, but it's much harsher on the body.
Adderall and herbal incense is also surprisingly euphoric. Like Adderall and Cannabis, munchies and burnt out feelings are eliminated. Both highs complement eachother and make positive, sout-out effects more pronounced. Alcohol and AM-2201 makes Buster too high and drowsy with spinning vision, even when buster has only 1 or 2 drinks!
When I feel that tolerance is getting a little high and I'm going through a lot of spice, I drink around 4 beers through out the night to intensify the dopey couch lock and chatty effects of getting stoned.
Also mixing Clonidine with cannabinoids increases the sedative effects; reducing the amount I take by half. Slightly opiate type euphoria is achieve, like codine. Nodding out and stuff.
I haven't tried many combinations with AM-2201, but one that I have, codeine, was very pleasurable. However, it also made me nauseous from time to time, but the puking didn't really matter, everything was more than fine after the job was done
AM-2201 combined with ~1mg Lorazepam (Ativan) has been interesting. Less desire to re-dose if taken in conjunction because the benzos reach peak effect when the AM-2201 peters out. Fantastic way to relax.
first moment your fucking on m, but after on hat of 2201 you get hungry, very hungry like painfull hungry, get lazy and you could go sleep now. After half hour to hour meth is slowly coming back to it's fully here. A new hat after that gets same effect
AM-2201 combines well with just about any other RC cannabinoid and real pot in user-appropriate doses IMO.
With stimulants and psychedelics, more so phenethylamine than tryptamine compounds, a little bit (like one normal to smallish "session") is ok but more can create paranoia and increased body load more so than regular mj I find.
For example, from experience, 2C-I plus mj is nice but 2C-I with more than a few hits of AM-2201 just makes everything more "synthetic" and stimulating and nauseating.
Just recently, I had a wicked mad panic attack from combining unknown amount [my rough guestimation based on previously having had an mg scale and legitimate academic lab training would be 30-60 mg] of pentlyone and a big bowl of AM-2201 [again, sorry, no scale, don't be dumb like me and these things won't happen to you, though I am usually pretty safe.]
Back to the panic attack, I had just finished smoking in the attic. All the windows are actually rectangular vents backed in mesh, so I can see and hear the surrounding neighborhood pretty well for being indoors.
Right after my hit, I could have sworn I heard someone near the house left of me say "oh shit... cops pulling up," then some muffled, panicked-sonding talking, then "we could just break this glass and go in here" [my house as all glass doors]. I flipped a shit, grabbed my air rifle, and sat at the top of my attic stairs with the phone ready to dial 911 and the gun trained on the door opening for about 10 minutes before I realized I was just being fully of stoney-baloney.
So be careful kiddies, don't eyeball RC stims, and take air guns instead of real guns with you when you go to investigate the voices... that last one was a joke, lol. Anything dangerous doesn't mix well with drugs, especially guns of any sort.
According to my experiences, benzos are an excellent way to make AM-2201 a lot more enjoyable. At least if the benzo dose is rather high (without tolerance like 30-50mg diazepam or 5-8mg etizolam (yeah, etizolam is a thienobenzo tho')).
It can even completely block the anxious and other negative side effects (if one is prone to them) from AM-2201. But one has still be careful with the AM-2201 doses, it can go overboard if you do od-doses. If one were to try it, try at lowest dose like ~0.5mg first and gradually add 0.5-1mg, you might get a pretty smooth experience by doing it like this