Through my pet bunny "jumper's" personal experience with opiates
and opiods, which is quite extensive at this point
, I'd like to offer his $0.02 for him as he can't use a computer. With jumper's experience with tramadol
, it doesn't seem to provide him with any sort of opiate
or nodding or warm fuzzy electric blanket type feeling whatsoever. It seems to make jumper feel honestly more "drunk-like" in a way. Similar to how he would feel on particular benzo
As far as hydrocodone
, before jumpers tolerance landed at about 200mg to 250mg a day, it would certainly give him much more euphoria and opiate buzz when compared to the effects of the tramadol on him. Jumper certainly prefers the high of hydrocodone over the high of tramadol. However, like mentioned previously, the tolerance to hydro that jumper accumulated makes him more likely now to do about 250mg of tramadol over the amount of hydro that would be needed to get him going.
It's interesting to both me and jumper that one would prefer tramadol over hydrocodone when simply referring to the high of the drug
alone and not considering tolerance or ROA of the pills.
All in all, jumper concludes that hydrocodone high > tramadol high. But neither are enough to keep him satisfied anymore. Roxi, dillies, OC, Opana all seem to be his new fav.
And I find it a necessity to mention...
Please not that no one should ever take 200mg to 250mg of hydrocodone without doing a CWE. Tylenol, aka acetaminophen
is killer on your liver.