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Old 06-06-2012, 22:51
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Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

AFOAF (SWIM) is prescribed 30mg Adderall IR + 30mg Adderall XR monthly.
  • XR: He loves the high, and how the 30mg XR lasts a good 5 hours (longer would be better).
  • IR: He doesn't care much for the IR, which he only uses for snorting.
  • He doesn't care much about the dietary effects (lack of hunger).
Upon research, he thinks vyvanse is the new and improved, but still doesn't know weather it's better than Adderall.
  1. Is vyvanse like Adderall IR (no beads, just a solid powder)?
  2. What XXmg Vyvanse dosage would approx. be the strength of a 30mg Adderall IR?
  3. What are the differences (duration & max high) in snorting Adderall IR vs Vyvanse?
  4. Should SWIM switch the 30mg Adderall IR for XXmg Vyvanse?
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Old 06-06-2012, 23:42
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Adderall is a mixed isomers amphetamine. I think it is 75% D-Amphetamine and 25% L-Amphetamine. It is okay, but I don't like the L isomer because of the tweaky side effects.

Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine. Lisdexamfetamine is a prodrug. The only effective way to take it is orally. It turns into D-Amphetamine(Dexedrine) after it goes through the stomach I believe. It is VERY nice in my opinion.

70mg of Lisdexamfetamine(Vyvanse) is = to 40mg D-Amphetamine roughly. The thing is with Vyvanse is how it hits you and the length of effects. It starts to take effect 30-60 minutes after taking. After first effects you come up for 4 hours or so. Then plateau for 4 more. Then gently comedown for 2-4 more hours. It is a wonderful thing if not abused.

I would say that a 70mg Vyvanse is equal to 2-30mg Adderall taken 4 hours apart IMO. I prefer Vyvanse because of the lack of the L isomer. To each their own though.

So if 30mg of Adderall XR is nice for you, then 40-50mg Vyvanse once daily might bee better. If you like the effects but they aren't strong enough, just let the doctor know and they can bump you up to 70mg. BTW, don't take more than once per day, unless you need to bee up for overnight through the next day.
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Old 06-06-2012, 23:57
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

In a nutshell, many would prefer Adderall in many ways. Vyvanse is 100% D-amphetamine salts, and Adderall is a mixture of different types of amphetamine salts along with some D-amphetamine salts too. The main difference is basically a trade-off: Adderall is stronger with higher chance of bad side effects, and Vyvanse is weaker but has a smaller chance of bad side effects. Also, Vyvanse lasts longer (up to 14 hours), but usually doesn't produce the same level of high. The main purpose of Vyvanse was to create a very close ADHD drug to Adderall for people who experience too many bad side effects with Adderall. So all in all, you get much more bang for your buck keeping Adderall, as Adderall is more powerful and costs less; while Vyvanse is less powerful and costs more (since its a new drug).

Source:http://www.healthresource4u.com/adhd...e-effects.html
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Old 16-06-2012, 22:42
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Vyvanse is smoother. A more gradual onset, more gradual come-down, and in my experience less pronounced side-effects. It is not possible to snort Vyvanse. Well, it is, but it won't do anything different than when you eat it, because it is a pro-drug that turns into amphetamine when it is metabolized during ingestion, there is really no way to abuse it any other route of admininstration will either have little effect or the same as ingestion.

It last long, about as long as addie XR but with a much smoother come-down. Its not as strong a buzz, especially regarding physical aspects. Its powder in a capsule. I started it recently and I love it, as I daily medication I find it superior to adderall. Equally effective, smoother, less side-effects. That has been my experience.
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Old 25-07-2012, 18:28
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

SWIM was just recently prescribed 30mg Adderall (IR) for his ADHD. He had taken Vyvanse in the past, and experienced extreme irritability along with insomnia. Plus he thought the price for the Vyvanse was outrageous. The IR Adderral felt better when sniffed, and orally wasn't as much of a euphoric rush, but it did alleviate his attention issues. SWIM is experiencing very relaxing effects, and he notices he is talking more than average, but not to the point of grandiose nonsense which he experienced with the Vyvanse. He is experiencing minor teeth grinding along with a little jaw clenching, but he will have Artane tomorrow which may lessen the severity of these side effects. The buxism like side-effects he has with the Adderall is by far less agonizing than when he used MDPV. Vyvanse did not cause these effects in him.

So in SWIM's case, he would rather have his mind straight with the Adderall, and experience minor discomfort with facial tics rather than to endure the psychological harm to him caused by Vyvanse.

eric.a.lynch added 11 Minutes and 36 Seconds later...

Bruxism I mean, typo.

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Old 25-07-2012, 18:40
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Adderall definitely, as (non-Desoxyn) pharmaceutical amphetamines go Dexedrine/Dextrostat are the best by far, but between lisdexamfetamine and mixed amphetamine salts I would rather take the MAS any day of the week. I've been prescribed both and due to my tolerance vyvanse might as well have been a placebo.
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Old 25-07-2012, 19:53
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

1. Yes, Vyvanse is a solid powder. It's not a pill, though. It's solid powder in a capsule. It's slightly difficult to open without spilling it - unlike Adderall XR.
2. Vyvanse's high dosage numbers (max dosage is 70 mg) are so high compared to Adderall XR because it is a prodrug and thus has lysine attached to the d-amphetamine molecules. The body must cleave the lysine off before metabolizing the d-amphetamine; thus resulting in a longer, smoother, and more potent effect. The conversion between Vyvanse to amphetamine is 0.2948, meaning that 70 mg of Vyvanse is 20.636 mg of d-amphetamine.

Note: Vyvanse works significantly differently than Adderall IR. Not only is it not released immediately, but when it is finally released, it is extremely slow and much smoother. I personally have been prescribed Adderall XR/IR and now am on Vyvanse - I don't like the way Vyvanse feels. You can't tell when it's working anymore. Some people enjoy this - others don't.

3. The duration is miniscule in comparison to Vyvanse. On the other hand, the high is much more attainable and more potent. Vyvanse was created solely to be unabusable - and it is. The only way to use it recreationally would be to take more or to use a relatively complex chemical process to remove the lysine/prodrug effect, but then you might as well be taking Dexedrine.

4. It depends if SWIM wants to use it recreationally or academically. Academically, Vyvanse will probably be the best option; however, I don't think it'd be a good idea to take 70 mg Vyvanse and 30 mg Adderall XR daily. Anyone would deplete neurotransmitters very quickly that way, not to mention be wired for at least 12 hours.
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Old 26-07-2012, 08:14
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Wow, I feel kinda dumb for just quickly skimming the OP before posting, had I read it well I would have answered the questions asked. Luckily thecomedown's post below mine takes care of that nearly perfectly.

I would just clarify (since thecomedown alternately says both are in #2 and #3) that in general Adderall is the more potent of the two Also according to Shire pharmaceuticals (the company that makes brand-name Adderall) the duration of Adderall XR is 12 hours, which I believe is only 2 hours below their claims for the duration of Vyvanse. Which you must take into account as Vyvanse can take up to 2 hours for it's effects to being in some people which is between 3-4 times that of Adderall.

Finally about your #3 greenpanther, Vyvanse is only active after it reaches the bloodstream, and it's designed to not be very soluable in water, and since good soluablility in water is required for insufflation to work, Vyvanse is really only good for


(Just a little aside I noticed while doing some research earlier today. I read the study they did to determine lisdexamfetamine was less addictive than normal d-amphetamine, and something caught my eye. In the study they administered I.V. d-amp in 10mg and 20mg doses as well as I.V. vyvanse in 25mg and 50mg (equivalent to 7.37mg and 14.74mg of d-amp respectively) doses compared to placebo. And this was part of their conclusion, "20 mg of d-amphetamine showed significantly increased abuse-related liking scores compared with placebo (P < 0.05), whereas the liking effects of 50 mg LDX did not significantly differ from placebo. " With a difference of over 5mg between the two, it isn't surprising they got scores at least .05 points higher on average on their scale.)

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Old 26-07-2012, 09:29
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

First of all, if you enjoy the high from the XR Adderrall, (which is best in the morning after a good night's sleep and a good meal), then you definitely will not like Vyvanse.

I tried Vyannsse once, at large enough dosages to be able to tell a difference. I did feel like I could concentrate on the Vyvanse, but I never felt any kind of high. I mean I noticed that my pulse was a bit faster, but other than that nothing.

Adderrall gives a "high" that is fairly intense and almost euphoric. There is a reason Adderrall is very addictive- it's good stuff. Personally, I haven't met anyone who prefers Vyvanse over Adderrall. In my opinion, there is nothing better than a 30mgXR and a 30 instant release addy right after waking up. You definitely feel ready to take on the world!

I was under the impression that doctors began prescribing Vyvanse partly because of the wide-spread abuse of adderrall. Also, Vyvanse was presented as a safer alternative. I definitely would not want my Adderrall changed, for sure.
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Old 06-08-2012, 20:48
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

My pet hamster has tried both (his PA is easy on him) and he would say that Vyvanse at doses 60-70mg (70 is the highest) gets his vote big time! His one friend is also prescribed it and somehow gets 90mg a day, anything above that needs monthly heart scans or some BS. Vyvanse lasts all day, is not up and down like most amps, and is a lot less known! Which for some reason my pet hamster likes. Of course if you'd rather abuse it than Vyvanse is (almost) out of the question.
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Old 17-08-2012, 18:34
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

All chemistry aside, from pure experience my cat would vote on adderall. More of a rush, and a much more elevated feeling. Vyvanse didn't do much for my cat when he was prescribed it; in fact, it actually made him angry! 50mg or 100mg of vyvanse, neither do much for my cat besides give him the body buzz. 40mg - 80mg of Addy XR though, that's where the party is - get the best of both worlds.
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Old 21-08-2012, 21:52
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Swim agrees and he agrees their are some perks to the new Vvyanse however for all intensive purposes he will have to vote adderall.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

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for all intensive purposes
Nice word play. (I know "useless quote")

Anyway after doing 100mg of vyvanse today and having a long history with recreational adderall and, -amines in general, I would have to lean for the adderall for recreational use for most users because it is a more intense high especially since you can shoot it. (I'm not suggesting you shoot any drug just personal experience ect ect.) However to be honest if the recreational based dosage were comparable I'd pick the Vyvanse for a couple reasons. Here they are.

The crash is first foremost a crash so it blows. It is a more gradual comedown vs adderall though and as a stimulant freak this is a major selling point for me. (Probably why I liked meth so much, you can put off he crash for a week at a time)

The high has a much longer onset for full effects but when it finally hit it was suprisingly strong for that dose. (I really didn't expect much though) It also lasted longer and plateued for a good 3-4 hours instead of a quick peak then drop, which I found appealing.

It was altogether a more relaxed pleasent high if that makes any sense for a stimulant. (I think my fellow stim fans will get this.) It did overall great job at avoiding the anxiety and tension that I feel on adderall. A little bit for the last couple hours of a 10 hour high isn't bad in my opinion.

It didn't make me all jittery and shit like adds. The reasons for this are stated in posts above I don't understand enough to talk about it and I'm far too lazy to quote. All you really need to know is there is mostly no jittery tweaker nonsense. (I did clench my jaw a bit.)

I dunno I just find the gentle-by-comparison Vyvanse more suited to my taste so far but I have only done a small amount this once so that's all I'm going on. Like I said I did 100mg and to me personally it felt about equal to 60-70 mg of adderalll XR snorted. I know you have your formulas and shit I'm just giving my personal opinion, what it felt like to me, and what I've been comparing it to. However I would like to point out they are two different highs allbeit similar and no matter how much the apple looks like the orange it really comes down to taste.

I am really excited to try Vyvanse in higher dosages and experiment a little. I am a recovering meth addict and personally I believe this brought me closer to that same high. Certainly not in intensity but in the way the high progressed and felt after onset. I would be very interested to hear from any other current or recovering tweakers who have tried Vyvanse with thoughts or opinions on this.

In closing I would just like to say what an awesome place this is that I can come and research a drug before I try it and then come back and share my experience and swap knowledge.

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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

This.

Good post, man. You nailed it exactly.

For me, the magic dose is around 80 - 100mg. Anything more than that is trouble. i.e. insomnia, anxiety, headaches, irritability, etc.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Vyvanse. It's safer, longer, and less tweaky.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

This has probably been answered already but
Adderall IR is straight up d-amphetamine salts compressed into a tablet
Adderall XR is beads inside a capsule where some are IR and some are designed to metabolize slower but you can crush the beads and bypass that method.

Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine and is in the form of a powder in a capsule. You can't bypass this method of extended release because it's not a function of a wrapper but the body has to break down the Lisdexamfetamine into dexamphetamine. Efficacy of vyvanse to adderall is 1:3 adderall:vyvanse So a 30mg vyvanse is equiv to about 10mg adderall efficacy. Taking a lot of vyvanse at once may make you high but it will fuck up your sleep even if you took it early in the morning(in my experience)

As far as how it feels I can't say as i don't get any effect from amphetamines, but according to my friend vyvanse is a lot smoother vs adderall being a high peak to start then an eventual crash when its reached its effectiveness halflife.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

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This has probably been answered already but
Adderall IR is straight up d-amphetamine salts compressed into a tablet
Adderall XR is beads inside a capsule where some are IR and some are designed to metabolize slower but you can crush the beads and bypass that method.

Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine and is in the form of a powder in a capsule. You can't bypass this method of extended release because it's not a function of a wrapper but the body has to break down the Lisdexamfetamine into dexamphetamine. Efficacy of vyvanse to adderall is 1:3 adderall:vyvanse So a 30mg vyvanse is equiv to about 10mg adderall efficacy. Taking a lot of vyvanse at once may make you high but it will fuck up your sleep even if you took it early in the morning(in my experience)
Adderall in any form is approximately 25 percent levoamphetamine and 75 percent dextroamphetamine.
IR or XR it's the same proportions of the two. Levoamphetamine is more noradrenergic than dex. Dex is smoother and not as tweaky, or what have you. You're generally right about everything else though. Dose conversion of Vyvanse to Dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) would be 100 mg of Vyvanse is roughly 30mg of Dexedrine, although I've seen it estimated more like 100 = 27.5 or something, but you get the picture.

I'm on 100, 50 BID of Vyvanse. I've been on Vyvanse and abused it mostly since September of last year so by now at my weight of 210 lbs (6 feet tall) thanks to Zyprexa it's less effective than I'd like. I also have to come slowly off Suboxone 12mg over the next 6 months because of my Doc not renewing his license, so I'm probably going to want to lower the amphetamine, and hopefully it's more effective in a *good* way after Sub w/d is done. I like the combination of opi and amp + benzo that I'm prescribed now though, it's smooth and keeps me chilled out but focused for many hours of the day and in a better mood than I'd be without the amp. The Suboxone added though does also enhance my mood quite a bit, so unfortunately I can't totally comment on Vyvanse alone. I also have Dex IR 10mg tabs and I found the comedown with those to be rougher, taking 30mg which is about = to 100 of Vyvanse as I said. Eh, I'd go with Vyvanse over Adderall but say Vyvanse dosed equally is *about* the same as Dex, just FYI. Be safe, guys and gals.

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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Vyvanse saved my life.
I snorted every formulation of methylphenidate including concerta and daytrana extraction, adderall ir and xr. for 20 years. spent a week high as a kite and then 3 weeks of paralytic despondency...refill and repeat for twenty years. I have add and cannot function without meds but was clever/stupid enough to defeat each abuse prevention system. It is smooth and effective at 60 mg. The delayed response forced me to rise early and go for a run letting the exercise endorphins hold me together for the 2 hours before it began working.
Thank-god for Vyvanse
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

Vyvanse, both for therapeutic and recreational purposes. I'd even take it over Dexedrine or meth. It's much smoother and gentler feeling than all of those but amps me up just as much.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

I'm lazy as hell. On Vyvanse, I get focused, but I can't apply that focus to anything. I end up sitting in a chair the whole day getting nothing done, feeling like a complete zombie. I HATE vyvanse. I've tried it at
40mg (noticeable focus but wore off in a matter of 3 hrs)
70mg (llasted slightly longer than 40)
140mg (not what I expected at all. Not hyper, just a 100% zombie state. Could not do anything and felt horrible)

While adderall on the other hand works wonders for me because the levoamphetamine fights my laziness, gets me up and going. I don't know why, but adderall gives me a euphoria unlike any other stimulant. Perfect mental clarity, confidence, appreciation for things around me,and gives me a sense of ambition. - None of which I felt on Vyvanse.

If it's not obvious already, I'd choose adderall any day.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

I've written myself that Vyvanse versus Adderall taken as is reigns supreme as far as the end result being only dextroampetamine and its bioavailability being higher because lisdexamfetamine via l-lysine is only hydrolyzed into dextroampetamine in the gastrointestinal tract and does not become active until it reaches the blood stream allowing for less biological interruption.

Personally, though, I have been taking Adderall for quite some time and I find that I benefit from the mixture it provides with dextroamphetamine sulfate, amphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharate and amphetamine aspartate monohydrate. I have ADHD passive type; also known as ADD. I find that the addition of extra norepinephrine is necessary for me to maintain a productive lifestyle; to begin tasks and follow them through to completion and adds an additional level of energy that Vyvanse lacks.

If I were to want the ideal drug to get high on then I would choose good old fashioned Dexedrine (dextroapmetamine sulfate) over Vyvanse and its fancy prodrug any day of the week. I have been on Dexedrine in the past and I just find it to be a better means of achieving that instant release of dextroamphetamine compared to Vyanse.

Besides, I don't just take my Adderall as is; just by limiting you consumption of acidic foods and utilizing these magical tablets, shrouded in mystery known as Tums (calcium carbonate) you can avoid the primarily downfall associated with IR Dexedrine and Adderall bioavailability. When I take Adderall, I regularly test my saliva and my urine with litmus paper to gauge the pH and adjust my diet accordingly. Every since I started utilizing the this testing combined with a low acid diet and calcium carbonate I have experienced a surge in efficacy from my Adderall that far exceeds expectations and is anything but placebo.

So yeah...Adderall.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

I find that even if the same equivalent dose is taken, so that in terms of "potency" you are on a level playing field, vyvanse is the better recreational drug out of Adderall and Vyvanse. If you can be patient and wait for the two hour onset, it is a more enjoyable and smoother high. The longer duration does make it better aswell, if getting little sleep isnt an issue.
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

For some reason, recently the memory of reading this specific (part of this) post popped into my head and it has finally bothered me enough to respond:

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Besides, I don't just take my Adderall as is; just by limiting you consumption of acidic foods and utilizing these magical tablets, shrouded in mystery known as Tums (calcium carbonate) you can avoid the primarily downfall associated with IR Dexedrine and Adderall bioavailability. When I take Adderall, I regularly test my saliva and my urine with litmus paper to gauge the pH and adjust my diet accordingly. Every since I started utilizing the this testing combined with a low acid diet and calcium carbonate I have experienced a surge in efficacy from my Adderall that far exceeds expectations and is anything but placebo.
I'm uncertain about how the pH of one's saliva at a particular moment correlates with the oral bioavailability of amphetamines, and I would guess that obsessing enough to test your own urine with litmus paper would more than likely have the inadvertent effect of increasing fluid intake and thus increase urine flow which would negate (at least to some degree) the effect where more alkaline urine lowers the rate of elimination of amphetamine.

I'm sorry to divert the topic but here comes the point I've been feeling compelled to raise: Theory aside, taking an antacid to help augment the effects of stimulant medication is all well and good and even doctors will mention this effect to the patient if it seems appropriate. Where it becomes a little silly, I think, is when the patient is buying litmus paper alongside their Adderall prescription for the purpose of testing not only one bodily fluid, but two (although even one would still seem silly).

First of all, the pH level of your urine doesn't provide any predictive or preemptive power--by the time you can test it, you can't really make adjustments which would affect the elimination of any amphetamines taken earlier, and testing even just before taking amphetamines wouldn't necessarily provide a relevant reading insofar as amphetamine elimination is concerned. Second of all, if you're peeing on litmus paper regularly with a passion that might match that of a woman using an at-home pregnancy test and hoping to have a child someday (or perhaps not to have one), at what point do you ask questions like: Am I reading too far into "better living through chemistry"? Is the practice of modern medicine in my case really improving my quality of life? Why am I spending money on these litmus tests? What's the goal? Is it a healthy one? Why is it necessary to go to such lengths beyond what my physician has directed in order to achieve the appropriate efficacy for my treatment?

If you're doing all of this to achieve a higher level of systemic amphetamine concentration and for a longer duration and there's a noticeable advantage, then why shouldn't your physician consider increasing perhaps your dose and/or your frequency of doses so you can achieve the same benefits on a normal diet without monitoring your bodily fluids so abnormally closely? Have you researched, or even thought of how a diet designed to be as alkaline as possible (even supplementing said diet with antacids!) could have negative consequences for your overall health and wellbeing? You're already taking a psychoactive medication to treat a neurological (component of a) condition, is it really a great idea to try to fine tune other major organs in your body around the properties of that medication? If your physician is not willing to do adjust your dose, then perhaps it's not healthy for you to be achieving equivalent effects on your own accord?

I certainly hope that not many people do things like this, but I'm very interested to hear from others if they do anything similar or comparable, particularly where it doesn't seem like the reason is necessarily rooted in abuse/the desire to get high. If this is common, perhaps there is a sociological issue here (are people not being prescribed sensible doses of these medications for their own particular treatment? If not, why is that? are doctors afraid to prescribe? are patients afraid to ask? do patients feel--or have they even been told--that they have been "flagged" for drug abuse?). I think it would warrant a separate thread for discussion, but it just seems too odd to me that this is very common/widespread (or else I would've just went ahead and started a new thread). Am I wrong? Is this, in fact, common?
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Re: Adderall vs Vyvanse (Pick one)

I think this thread would have benefitted from a clear distinction in the op's title.

We are a community of drug addicts, users, counsellors, researchers, enthusiasts, and to sum up everyone else unfairly but in the failed interest of brevity - - drug curious.

From these very different perspectives we can assume a broad range of responses based on the responders particular angle.
WHICH GETS YOU THE MOST HIGH
WHICH HAS FEWER SIDE EFFECTS
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TRIED BOTH
WHY DID YOU SWITCH
WHICH CONTROLS YOUR ADD/ADHD BETTER

furthermore the answers would be more relevant if the Op had asked responders to include their
diagnosois - if any
lenght of time using each drug
have both drug actually been taken
what does were they taken at..
I don't mean to be critical of the OP because I think it is an excellent question and clearly so does the DF community.
I don't want to suggest that i know how to write a thread question better than anyone else.
I am not trying to write a primer on what should be done . And furthermore It will not take anyone long to find that I have failed to take my own advice on more than a few occasions

I just thought I would add my humble 2 cents because as I was reading through the thread with interest I found it difficult to draw a conclusion or at least a sense of consensus about the thread title from the members who replied to this thread.

I don't know if the OP has POLL privilegeS yet but it seems to me this would make an excellent POLL and as I do not want to plagiarize, if the OP is interested in making a POLL and would like to collaborate on one with me Id be happy to be party to such an endeavour. I just think it might reveal some excellent information in a way that each persons desired question is answered by the people who have the best experience for that particular question.

To wrap up. I have used both and find that I like the high from adderall but as an addict with add - i feel vyvanse does a better job at controlling my symptoms (even when taken as directed).
With vyvanse i feel no desire to take more than directed, i do not use it to get high and likely due to the aforementioned find it treats my add effectively and inobtrusively.

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