A couple of things to get out of the way before actually responding to your question: First, please don't use "SWIM
" any more. It's a flimsy cover up and the powers that be here on DF are now actively trying to phase out its use. Pretty much any other method you'd like to use to avoid self-incrimination is OK; however, it is not necessary to avoid it when discussing drug
use (just production, extraction, synthesis and the like).
Second, please consider breaking a longer post into paragraphs next time. It wouldn't have been a wall of text if you had used some line breaks, and would have been much easier to read.
I digress, though. As for your actual question, I hate to tell you that there are simply too many variables here to give you a reliable answer, namely if hydromorphone
will be tested for, how fast it will get out of your system, lowest detectable amount, etc. I tried looking for things to cite what I'm going to tell you, but you're right that there isn't much available on this topic and what information does exist is frequently conflicting.
Just to answer your question in the bolded text, assuming that hydromorphone does
show up on a test, then no
you cannot snort 4mg of hydromorphone on a Friday and "not worry at all" about a drug test the following Monday. Seeing as hydromorphone is so short acting, you probably don't have to worry much
, but in no way is testing clean a guarantee using that kind of time frame. Hydromorphone, like almost all short-acting opiates
, is detectable in urine from 2-5 days depending on individual metabolism. As I said, though, it's probably not too much of a worry (especially given your clean test 18 hours after doing some) but not a sure thing. Either way, I'm just trying to give you some cold hard facts.
To be honest, I think the assumption that hydromorphone isn't tested for is a bit optimistic. A lot of tests nowadays test for "Opiates," and many different drugs
will cause a positive read. It's a bit complicated as to how that works from a scientific standpoint and I simply don't know it well enough to explain it (I think it has something to do with chemical structure instead of the metabolites), but all I can say is that I'm quite certain it's possible to be tested for hydromorphone without needing a specific, specialized test. Yet again, however, it depends on what kind of test is being used and other factors. For tests that would only show up positive for "opiates" without discerning which, the results are often sent to a lab for further analysis... usually GC-MS.
Where did you get the 300ng/mL figure from? Some tests can accurately read amounts lower than that. The most important question in that same vein is what the threshold is for a positive reading.
On the plus side, I'm not sure how you did the math to figure out the decay after 65 hours, but I believe the amount left in your system would be much lower than that. Starting with 4mg and decaying by half 13 times, you'd be left with .0005mg in your system. This number would likely be even lower, seeing as by insufflating you're only getting about half of those 4mg in your system on a good day. Granted, those are theoretical numbers and unlikely to be exact as a drug's rate of decay also varies some by metabolism, but it gives you an idea.
Anyway, that's all I have for now. Sorry that my answer all sort of boils down to "can't say for sure," but maybe it's at least some food for thought.