Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world. We serve over 3 million readers per month, and have costs like all popular websites: servers, hosting, licenses and software. To protect our independence we do not run ads. We take no government funds. We run on donations which average $25. If everyone reading this would donate $5 then this fund raiser would be done in an hour. If Drugs-Forum is useful to you, take one minute to keep it online another year by donating whatever you can today. Donations are currently not sufficient to pay our bills and keep the site up. Your help is most welcome. Thank you.
SWIM is very scared of having bad trips on shrooms or lsd. If SWIM does E for his first time (which will be soon) is there much of a chance he will be frightened by how powerful it is? SWIM hears how the first few minutes can be really intense. SWIM just wants to relax at home and wait for it to take effect. By the way, SWIM is only taking one.
Last edited by Nnizzle; 24-11-2010 at 05:11.
Reason: title change to be more obvious
Not really.You won't "trip" of E unless you take high doses or there is a other pschydelic substance in it, for example LSD.
The substance in E tables is mdma, which isn't really a pschydelic, though it changes your perception somewhat, it isn't really like mushrooms or LSD.
The only thing that can happen is that SWIY takes a too high dose which can make you go too ''fast'', making the world spin, and things flashing by and stuff like that which might be scary.
Just start with half on one, and if it's okey, take the other half an hour later.
Oh, well yeah. I know you don't hallucinate most of the time unless you take a lot. I kinda meant to ask just how intense it can be for the first time taking one. SWIM's not going to take a half since he heard it doesn't give the same experience, plus it's costing SWIM a decent ammount of money
Think there's much chance I can freak out my first time? Doesn't sound like it.
There is a chance swiy may feel a bit "overloaded" for a short while on the come up, a bit nervous and slightly nauseous maybe which would pass very quickly, but I very much doubt there would be any freaking out.
Swiy should ensure they have a good selection of their favourite tunes at hand if done at home. Relaxing and waiting for it to take effect would result in a less enjoyable time than having the correct lighting and music.
Taking 1 pill will most likely not send SWIY into a terrible overlaoded state of mind. If your worried about it take 1/2 the pill then wait 30mins and take the other 1/2. This will keep you from being overwhelmed with the come up. besides the come up i cant see how an MDMA experience could be a bad one.
Like with all drugs, the set and setting of an XTC "trip" is vital for a good experience. You wont have a bad trip like you would have off of lsd, but you can experience some negative feelings and wish you had never taken ecstasy. SWIM experienced this once.
He was missing someone very much and he dropped an e. He plugged 120mg which was an excellent dose, but he just did not enjoy it. He kept thinking about that someone the whole time he was rolling. XTC is a very emotional drug, so during a roll you can experience high levels of happiness or even depression. Just like with lsd, shrooms, 2c-e or any psychadelic, your state of mind during the trip will make a big difference in the way you are going to feel. SWIM felt lonely and slightly depressed during his roll. If he would have been with his good friend, he would have had the best roll of his life.
SWIM thinks there would be more of a possibility of having a bad trip from MDA, which is often found in pills, and is much more "psychadelic" than regular ecstasy (MDMA). Still though, an MDA trip is not comparable in intensity to a strong lsd or shroom trip. To maxamize the effects of ecstasy, just be in a relaxed state of mind and have a good enviroment to chill in. The setting of a trip is most important with strong phenethylamines and tryptamines, but it still should not be overlooked when taking a drug like mdma or even marijuana. SWIM has had "bad trips"from smoking weed because he was paraniod that he would get caught. How do you avoid such an occurance? Just trip/roll/get stoned/get fucked up in the right place at the right time. Get it? Got it? haha okay then.......have a good trip~
SWIM would say that if you have good MDMA and you don't take too much SWIY will have a wonderfull time. MDMA is really a very easy drug when it comes to emotions and bad experiences. Sure , it is possible to have unpleasant feelings but not very likely. However I understand your anxiety because SWIM also has problems with that. As soon as the X kicks in he gets a rush though and just plain loves it!
However , one suggestion of SWIM. Never take MDMA or any other drug when you feel sad. SWIM does not think that is a good way to go about MDMA or any drug. Use them when you are happy , use them to enhance your life , not to make reality foggy because you don't like to see the "real" world. Always remember that and most of SWIY's problems will be gone. Most trips and drug experiences go bad because of a bad mood and a bad setting.
So be with nice people and have fun! SWIM is sure SWIY will!
Psychedelics like LSD can cause bad trips that can include a temporary psychosis (rare). The flip-side to an MDMA trip, even cut with meth, is an anxiety attack. Not pleasant - but not bad enough to require medical intervention.
Just always be sure to have your monkey do his/her exploring in safe and calm surroundings - at least until the monkey is knowledgable regards what to expect.
swim had once gotten an anxiety attack while on e..he felt like something really bad was going to happen...felt dizzy, felt weak in the knees, shallow breathing (perhaphs why then swim felt dizzy and got blurry vision)..couldnt think straight...there was a weird sinking feeling present...closing eyes would be horrible as it felt like you were being sucked into a sad negative like place.....really strange..first half an hour was really really intense and as time passed the feeling wore off...took about 5hrs in total though...then swim boogied down for about an hour or so lol
anyway, that was swim's only 2nd time on e and only 3/4 was taken..first a 1/2 then 1/4 about an hour and a half later...
swim probably found it too intense..
Swim remembers the first 3 or 4 times he took Ecstasy. All of them were with medium sized groups of people (friends for the most part), and all of them were with different sets of people.
In each one of those times one person had the MDMA equivalent of a "bad trip". It wasn't as painful as a hallucinogenic bad trip, but the person in each case was definately anti-social and became easily irritable. They couldn't be around the music and commotion and had to sit outside and relax or just smoke a few spliffs and stare out into the ocean. One person afterwards said it was because the feeling overwhelmed him, and another said that he didn't know what happened but he just felt really confused and wasn't necessarily depressed, but just didn't have the clarity of mind MDMA usually gives.
Since these incidents Swim hasn't seen anyone else get a "bad trip" from MDMA though he would like to let you know that it is possible to have a less than great experience, even though it may be rare.
With SWIM's many experiences on E, SWIM can say that you will be fine, as long as you think about what you are about to do before you do it.
Like stated before, make sure you are in a safe enviroment, preferably one that you have been in before, and is not new to you. It also helps to have a sober friend with you for your first experience.
Hope this helps, and SWIM hopes your friend has fun.
Bad E's can amount to bad experiences, and also there are a few people who just generally have negative reactions to mdma which can cause them to feel crappy, or if the person has some serious things going through his/her head at the time that can amount to feeling bad.
However if the quality is assured and said person goes into it with the right state of mind, and stays within a reasonable dosage limit in a good setting, they're likely to have a good time.
SwiM once knew a blue dolphin. SwiM's blue dolphin took an orange something or another once upon a time (the dolphin doesn't do them anymore) which caused it to feel intense moments of euphoria followed by intense anxiety...over and over again. It did that for 6 hours. The dolphin was miserable and there was a gnarly crash afterwards. But out of the many stories the dolphin has, that is one of the very few negative ones regarding said empathogen .