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what am i to expect from pure mdma powder? how much do i take in a night? what are the effects like compared to pills? does the powder's color mean a change in quality ?
you can get different coulours here
It's much more a pure feeling, you feel clear, it hit's your faster but it's much better. When I have a gram pure mdma cristal I toke about 700-800mg -oh and you hardly have a comedown, much better than pills for me !
I got 2 grams of problably pure MDMA crystals a while ago. I have tried it once and I was on for a looong time.
I still have have over 1,5 grams left so i guess it was pretty pure, i am very very used to ecstacy. This beats pills(unless they accually contain only good quality MDMA, which they rarely do). Oh, and one more thing: I would recommend snorting it, itŽs too fucking strong. Worse than snorting 2C-B. So if you can snort your "pure MDMA" crystals without feeling a lot of pain, itŽs not pure or you got a fucking nose of steel. Peace and love!!
I can type really sensibly when discussing any form of drugs. Except MDMA powder. The stuff is amazing (when you can get it).
Original Poster: Take 100mg to begin with, and see how you get on. Play it by ear from then. Remember the effects of MDMA are not linear should you want to start with a higher does to start with next time
Last edited by Nnizzle; 04-12-2010 at 21:18.
Pure powder is better than pressed pills by a factor of like 5, in my opinion. Unless I miss my guess converting from U.S. to British currency, xx pounds is rather cheap, so the quality may be suspect. My first roll was 137 mg pure mdma powder. I believe my source. The powder was whitish (lighting was not particularly good, and I got the powder already in a gelcap. PiHKAL seems to agree that mdma crystals are white, so I don't think brown or black powder is pure. But that was a damn good night. My only complaint: mdma is too short. I only rolled for like, 3 hours.
Later, I tried a pressed pill I got (white with a sun on one side and a spiral on the other). I certainly rolled, but my jaw spasmed for days and I had a wicked hangover the next day. Pure powder is the way to go, if you have access to it, but make sure you're getting what you think you're getting. (if that's really possible) As a side note: I hate sketchy drug dealers who don't know shit. It's irresponsible, and makes everyone's drug experiences worse.
Last edited by Nnizzle; 04-12-2010 at 21:19.
Snorting MDMA is not the way to go, it just gets u completely fu(k'd for about 1/2 an hour..... It's best to put it into cap's at 100-150ish(mg)... this will give you a nice buz 4 a few hours, just like E's back in the day..
Done it myself load's n it's such more enjoyable when doin it in cap's, even though i admit i do a little line now n again... just to top me up..
Stay safe n have n good n.....
Last edited by Nnizzle; 04-12-2010 at 21:21.
Hi , I'm new here but I'd just like to state something:
Pure MDMA powder is white and no other color. Any color in the mix is impurity and nothing else.
So 125 mg of a brown powder will always be less then 125 mg of the white stuff. Color impurities come from an improper preparation, from a chemist thats IMHO is lazy and more focused on making E and money as fast as possible then making pure powder.
This comes from the fact that the freebase, before beeing transformed into the salt, is not distilled. For those who know chemistry, a simple Acid/Base extraction is not sufficient even with recrystalization to obtain a totally white product. A Pinkish powder comes from overgassing an impure solution and not recrystalizing it. Dont know about black MDMA but I would be kind of scared to take it. This is trully dirty
Overgassing only applies to unpure solution. Distilling the freebase, which is totally clear before making it into a salt gives a white powder that gives I feel a much cleaner and better buzz. The other advantage is that you know exactly how much u take is pure compared to unpure into which you dont know the exact MDMA content.
Last edited by Nnizzle; 04-12-2010 at 21:22.
SWIM had MDMA powder for the first time recently, having realised that the last batch of pillsshe got were rubbish. Pricewise it was Łxx a gram, colourwise is looked like demerara sugar (yellow/pale brown) with a smallish crystal size.
SWIMbombed 150mg in a rizla, and was absolutely flying within 40 mins. It felt really clean, and very euphoric: Just like pills used to in fact! didn't top herself up (with another 150mg) for almost 4 hours, which kept her in a completely blissful state for another 6 hours or so.
Her mate snorted 100mg: Screamed in pain, became incapable for about 40mins and didn't really get any euphoria at all.
The thingSWIM loved was that there wasn't any jitteriness/anxiety, very little body load, no teeth-grinding (didn't even need any chewing gum) and thatSWIMhad glorious hallucinations from a single spliff!
Comedown wise: No ill effects at all, and, interestingly: No midweek low, which has always been a problem for SWIM
She heartily recommends it!
Last edited by Nnizzle; 04-12-2010 at 21:23.
It's like taking a really clean pill, basically. And if you've never had a clean pill: the mellow,magical feeling of warmth andempathy toward everything around you without the speed rush or slightlytrippy visuals you get from "dirtier" pills. You can gum it or snort it, which shortens the duration and significantly lessens the comedown IMO. Otherwise you can wrap it up in a smallpiece of rizla and swallow it (a "bomb") which will produce similar duration to a pill. Comedown is much lighter and more gradual. Weed goes brilliantly with it.
normal dose for an average person with averga body is - 125mg (as stated by shulgin) - this means you cut up 1 gram in a line and seperate it in 8 exact smaller lines ... this was the way swim did it.
iv'e seen white powder - orange like crystals - and grey mdma ... with big chunky crystals - almost sugar ... the grey one was most pure ... .
the feeling is smoother - warmer - not so "fake" like with xtc (or is this in my head) ... and when you respect doses - you won't have a hard come down ... even a very pleasant one ... . like snoozing the day after ... not the cold reality busting in on you on a sunday morning like you can have with xtc.
the up and the downside about pillz is the suprise. Each pill seems to have its own character , it can suprise you or disappoint you. From what i read about molly (havent had the pleasure of finding me some) , it seems like a more uniform experience, be it a very good one.
Somehow i think that if swim was to find a steady source he'de still take pillz on occation just cause he likes the anticipation.
SWIM has a lot of experience with pure MDMA
For the record:
Brown MDMA crystals are brown do to impurites such polymerized product and excess reactants. The manufacturers sometimes skimp on the refining processes, for they don't really care and it only adds weight.
When pure, MDMA DOES NOT BURN when you snort it, granted that the manufacturer has an end product that was pure (ie. >98%), and was acidified to a salt with careful precision. Thus being white or just slightly off-white/ tan.
But just because you have a clean looking collection of MDMA crystals doesn't mean that they are near perfect or will not burn, for a 99.99% product will still burn like hell if it was over acidified to a salt, like to pH 1. Manufacturers usually don't care about this, for it will ensure all or as much as possible MDMA freebase oil will be converted into the crystalline salt.
SWIB gets MDMA crystals that are green tinted, completely transparant but tinted green non the less, more of a green colour when as a larger grouping of crystals (less see through). SWIB was lead to belive that chemists add colouring as a kind of stamp for their product, which swib can understand as this is some of the cleanest, strongest MDMA SWIB has had. All explanations for colour impurities due to lazy chemists point to brown/pink colouring but this stuff is definatly green!
SWIB was lead to belive that chemists add colouring as a kind of stamp for their product, which swib can understand as this is some of the cleanest, strongest MDMA SWIB has had. All explanations for colour impurities due to lazy chemists point to brown/pink colouring but this stuff is definatly green!
Yes SWIM is familiar with chemists adding colorants to distinguish there product, SWIM would never recommend one to color their product or make it strikingly identifiable. Also could be due to the traffickers keeping tabs on where its going, or maybe even law enforcement...
Regardless of who did it, it isn't a too terribly rare thing to see,colored MDMA, to SWIM it says it comes from some large scale opp. IMHO.