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Okay so the only H swim can get his hands on is black tar. Not wanting to shoot this swim read the various ways toward insuflation of the stuff. Swm first dissolved H in water and then let crushed up sleeping pills absorb the H water before evaporating the water to snort up heroin-laced-sleeping-pill-powder. BURNED LIKE HELL!!!!! These lines were very small but singed Swim's nose unlike much that has gone up it before (and Swim has put quite a few things up swim's nose). Swim then dissolved a gram of H in water in a nasal spray bottle. The smallest squirt up his nose burns SOOOO bad and makes swim all teary eyed but the H is SOOO good Swim doesn't know what to do! Does the acetalization of the opium tar or whatever make it HELLA ACIDIC in water or something?? Can adding a little bit of say baking soda or something make the burn not so harsh?? Is there anything swim can do to stop it from eating away at swim's nose???? PLEASE HELP!
first off, H is usually a base, all opioids are, but SWIY may be right in that the end solution could be acidic. but keep in mind strong bases would eat away at the nose just as well. the obvious solution is to stop using H, but if swiy is going to anyway, maybe try reacting a small amount of baking soda with a bit of H, and a small amount of vinegar with another part. this would at least allow you to see if a strong pH is whats hurting the nose, and if so, what to react it with (a weak base-baking soda or a weak acid-vinegar). also, if it is black tar swiy has, swiy could always smoke it on a piece of foil and chase the dragon...
Answers to this are simple
1) stop using Heroin
2) Use via a differant administration route like IV, IM, SC, SL, Oral.
3) Try a differant dealer - some H has damaging impurities
Remember that alot of risks come with using drugs, whatever the way heroin is administered with it being illegal and therefore by causality impure nearly all methods of administration are going to be harmful. It comes down to weighing the negatives against the posatives. Also i think that frequency plays a big part to this.
Well the tar has the acetalic acid vinegar smell so swim's pretty sure it's more acidic. Swim's gunna try adding a bit of baking soda to toss in the mix. Any other solutions would be great... If swim's typical oxycontin dosage is insuflating 80 mg then what would be around the proper amount to eat? Any suggestions?
Most opiates orally are much less effective as alot get cleaned out in the 1st pass absorbtion.
Oxycodone - for the non-opiate tolerated a 10-15mg dose should be sufficient
^^ from Mr Jim's post.
So if SWIY can think back to his first opiate dose insuffalated then he can probably work it out.
My advice on this one is the same with anything, start small and work up. You can get pissed off with underdosing but you can die with overdosing.
Might be worth for SWIY to try 80mg orally and work up from there.
Remember that orally it will take some time for the substance to reach the bloodstream 30-60 minutes. But the duration will be somewhat longer.
Ahh im sorry swim got his wisdom teeth taken out today and isn't speaking affluently. Swim's typical snorting dosage for oxy's are 80 mgs. Swim was trying to feel for a base of heroin to start eating based on the oxy dosage. Mah bad
Black tar is black tar. It all comes from Mexico and most of it is produced the exact same way. It is all very impure and a pain inthe ass to inject or snort. I'm not sure how effective smoking it is. Some of the impurities might creates problems for that.
A lot of people think brown is better than black tar but it's almost always black tar cut with some white substance. You can make your own brown by crushing black tar and mixing it with sugar, but there really is no benefit. Try to find someone who sells white. It can be hard to come by on the west coast, but it can be done.
If you have some knowledge of chemistry you can always try an A/B extraction on the black tar.
Everyone remember, advice on this board is subjective (like advice you would hear from any stranger on the street). 788.4's advice is probably quite pertinent where he lives. However, in SWIX's locality, tar (aka Mexican Diesel) is primo. China White is cut shit for novice preppies.
h burns swim nose and baking soda seems not to help swim tried mixing h with sleeping pills it was good but still burns swim nose ive heard if u let pills sit out for a while it cools them down any truth to that and if so how long?
First, baking soda is caustic, so it would probaply make the burn even worse.
Second, combining heroine with other CNS(central nervous system) depressants is extremely risky unless you are very experienced with both and have build up reasonable tolerance, otherwise it could dangerously supress SWIY's breathing. SWIM suggests to do some kind of extraction on it to purify the heroin, soaking it in a solvent, filtering, and discarding the liquid should leave cleaner heroin on the filter, there's a whole thread about purifying heroin, here.
dont eat it, swim knows sleeping pills burn ya nose like hell.
dissolve it in a tiny tiny bit of warm but not hot water its easy to do it in a 2 liter bottle cap and then sniff that through a straw it will make you gag like a motherfucka but it works best (swim thinks) with tar