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Leanbaby, coke shouldn't hurt. I don't think it does since it never bothered me and my cohorts. Worse I got was a nose bleed. I think the nose pain is from something else. Sometimes when the weather gets hot and the air gets dry, my sinuses starts to get all raw. Same thing when the weather gets cold cold cold. Saw a specialist many years back and all he suggested was saline solution. It works fine for me.
The Combined Cocaine Related Nose Problems and Nose Care Thread
Need to keep the inside of your nose moist? swim's tried everything, EVERYTHING... even vaseline dries up after about 15 min, or if you blow your nose a little. Saline spray is worse than useless, in 3 minutes it's dry again.
Finally found THE SOLUTION... mineral oil (the kind used for a laxative). Keeps it moist a long time under all conceivable conditions, really helps prevent that end of party nasal pain. Wet a finger good & apply liberally (it's harmless), sniff a little up into your lower sinuses. Just don't do it until swiyyou're finished up for the night, unless you want a gooey mess in the lower part of your nose...
Last edited by Benga; 24-06-2007 at 19:36.
Reason: self incrimination
WTF!?! Prominent veins around nostrils after cocaine use?
My bro has noticed that when he starts using coke a few nights a week that the veins surrounding his nostrils get all pronounced and red - no discomfort but kinda like spider veins in peoples legs but in the tissue surrounding his nostrils . . . it goes away in a few days one he stops using . . .
Has anyone else experiened this and if so what did you do to treat it?
Does he drink? If the capillaries around his nose are getting red, isnt that known as a "gin blossom"? Could be that due to constant irritation from coke that the nose is becomming irritated causing the capillaries to become inflamed.
Maybe he should try smoking it instead of snorting it.
1) Has anyone here had a collapsed septum or known someone who has? How about some serious deterioration?
2) Where in the septum does this usually occur? (i.e. where you can pinch between the nostrils or further up near the sinuses)
3) Are there any warning signs that the sore-nose has progressed beyond dry-sinus-stuff to real damage? Sensations, changes, etc.
I've, for instance, never had a bloody nose, but I have these strange cold rushes in between my eyes that I didn't use to have. Don't know if that means I'm getting a cold or I've started to cause erosion or what.
I believe it. I met some girl whose septum collapsed. Strangely enough, after the reconstructive plastic surgery she was out looking for more blow. As far as my research has gone, I'm pretty sure that's the definition of addiction - suffering severe negative consequences from drug use and pursuing the drug despite them. Yuck.
Yea, I have a question about this too. I have been doin coke for about a month, not more than like 3 lines a day really, and I dont do them at once, but my nose is really really messed up. Do any of you guys have the same problems??
It feels like after I come down, my nose just like has hella mucus in it, its hurts, gets all crusty, and if I lie down and go to bed, both nostrils get clogged so I cant breathe in or out its really bad....then in the morning when I wake up my mouth is all sticky....I dont have bloody nose at all, and I take sudafed and use a lot of sprays with zinc and stuff to moisturize it. Could it be from a sort of sticky cocaine, the one that you can never chop up right? I didnt know I was supposed to put it in the micorwave....Whatever it is my nose is really bad and its annoying, I'm not even doing a lot of coke.
help!! swim's nose has been bleeding really bad for the past few days. its like the lining in swim's nose is completely worn down. swim used quite a bit daily for 7 months but hasnt used like that since march.swim's only done it like 3 times since then. does anybody know whats wrong or how to fix it??? thanks!!
Last edited by Benga; 24-06-2007 at 19:37.
Reason: self incrimination
You have already identified what's wrong - the lining in your nose is completely worn down. Here are my suggestions:
1) if swiyou snorts anything again (which obviously you shouldn't) make SURE to rinse swiyou's nose afterwards. they make nasal sprays for it, as well as particular douching systems designed to clean the nostrils. this will keep any residue from sitting in your nasal membrane and eating away at it, and since you'll already have absorbed whatever you're going to, it's not going to waste the coke that's left over.
2) for now, since swiyou's nose is bleeding a lot, make sure to keep a humidifier in your room when you sleep so it doesn't get dried out even more. I encourage you to buy a "non-drug" (that's how they're labeled) nasal moisturizing spray - it's not a decongestant, it's just a moisturizer and will help to soothe it at the very least. Also, when I was having a terrible time with my nose (it wasn't bleeding all the time, but it was all torn up and not healing) I found coating the inside of it with aloe vera gel (yeah it smells bad, but oh well) helped a TON with making it better.
If you truly have worn down your membrane to the point of no return, there's not much more you can do. I would reccomend finding a homeopath, personally. Western medicine insists your nose can't heal itself, but my homeopath gave me a remedy which seems to have helped close up the hole in my septum entirely. It's a thought, anyways. Good luck.
Last edited by Benga; 24-06-2007 at 19:38.
Reason: self incrimination
What kind of homeopathic remedies would you guys recommend? I find that allium cepa does wonders, you get it at Whole Foods in like these little viles..its basically onion which is hella good for the nose.
<blockquote>Originally posted by mad69fan on 17 September 2004<hr>
I find that allium cepa does wonders, you get it at Whole Foods .its basically onion which is hella good for the nose. ... <hr></blockquote>
Your nose shouldn't be congested like that, when you blow out is it yellow or white? If it's yellow that's all cut.
Try this to get the gunk out, get a straw and a cup of warm water or maybe some Flonase liquid, put a couple drops in the straw, drop them in your nose and let it loosen up the gunk. If you don't know what gunk I refer to, go to the mirror hold your nostrils up so you look like a piggy (have GOOD light) and look at the round polyp-y things in the back of your nostril, probably has some white chunks stuck to it and no visible hole?
After it's loose, with your nostrils held back and up with your finger, blow out. Sometimes you can get the stuff all the way out, or at least loosen it from the polyp-y thing.
You may want to try blowing your nose bending your face forward.
Another thing, really, really good coke will make your nose bleed. Not huge amounts of dark red blood, but doing a line of really good blow can cause a drips of blood. Personally, I would rather do a line and see a little blood then do a line and get congested .. the former tells me I have some good shit.
I can't vouch for mad69fan, but most places only sell remedies in 30C dosages (30K if you're in Europe). They come in small sugar pellets which you hold under your tongue until they dissolve. For best results with any homeopathic remedy you should have nothing in your mouth besides water for 15 minutes before and after taking it. Also because it is not "medication" if you take "too much" or the "wrong" one there will not be side effects, and you do not have to worry about combining them with other drugs like you do when you take supplements and vitamins and such.
So I have been reading A LOT about coke issues...I mean my nose is really fucked up, and I have not been doing it for a very long time at all, I dont know if what I have is good or not, but I do it every day and the withdrawal is not ok at all...I mean the come down.
I dont do a lot, but I do it every day and at the end of the day the mucus arrives....and I have to take nyquil, and nose sprays, nasonex, and other things in order to be ok the next day.
The first time I really douched my nose with sniffing warm water it worked. Got rid of all the mucus. It felt so great. Although I still cannot smell anything anymore, and that's not ok.
Hot showers get the mucus out too, but the same thing, it leaves your nose dry and painful. I have not bled from my nose yet, only when I blow at it excessively.
I am still sorta convinced I have a sinus infection or someting, and because I snort c every day, it is not giving it a chance to recover.
Sorry if this is too long but I think its important for others to know, and if anyone has any info...PLEASE DO LET ME and others know about it...
Anyways, some people suggested like sudafed, benadryll, and and type of like nyquil/dayquil type antihistamine over the counter medicines....doesnt really do the trick.
And as for pot, I have to be able to function the next day, and it just makes me dumb and paranoid....I mean I have a job, and I go to an ivy league, speak 6 languages fluently......no more pot for me thanks.
Withdrawal sucks, beause you snort 2 fat liines, go sit down, have some coffee and call all of the people in your cell agenda, and when it wears off you dont want to be outside, you dont want to drive anywhere but home so you can do some more and make yourself feel better although you know that on like a couple of hours...well...you will not be able to breathe through your nose for the rest of the night, and your eyes will tear up, and you cant do work, talk to anyone, and must absolutely be near a large box of tissues.
The douching of the nose with hot water doesnt really work too well, neither do all the nasal sprays with aloe, neither does sticking aloe in your nose,.
I mean for temporary relief I do all of those things: hot water douche, saline nasal spray, aloe nasal gel, nasonex (its expired but its not gonna kill me or damage anything hopefully), Q-Tip with aloe in the nostril, then vaseline, then what someone else said, Baby Oil....totally lubricates for a long time. All this is pretty effective I think in healing the damage of the coke, but the fucking think still starts stuffing up, you cant breathe, or you cant stop blowing your nose.
Then there are those wierd head ache, pressure type things. Thats adds to the annoyance.
But the next morning, you wake up, with crusties all on the inside of your nose, your mouth is fucked up and dry as all hell, and god knows how much you snored the whole nite.
I dont really have trouble sleeping.
Recently tho: IMPORTANAT:!!!!!!!!!!!! I read somewhere that you pop a vitamin E pill with a pin or a knife and squeeze all the fishy-smellyjuice onto a q tip (this is after you are done snorting for the nite and cleaning your nose with water and salt as much as you can) and lubricate the inside of your nostrils with it. In the morning I feel much bettter, no more crusties, no more dryed nose and no more pain inside the nose. I had prettty good results WITH VITAMIN E.
Another thing I tried, is after I finished doing my last lines, I would eventually sit in bed watching TV and my heart would be racing, and I would feel so damn hot....it was insane....i mean i was calm and breathed as deep as I could, but still its not fun to be like I have to breathe I have to breathe!!!
SO....I started taking diazepam (valium) I have a bunch of 10mgpills from europe without an expiration date....I did some research online and it said nothing about dangers of taking it if its expired or something...unless you are using like old people medications....
So I took 3 of those, and drank my nightly Detox tea (helps the liver cope with the coke, you can find it at Whole Foods, and any of those types of places, the brand is Yogi Detox tea)....anyways when I woke up the next morning the first thing on my mind was not coke, and I didn't even have the urge to smoke a cigarette all day, it just made it taste gross. I was actually really ok, no more headaches, got my appetite back, food tasted good, I began to smell again....
I would not suggest taking valium every nite cuz then u get accustomed to doing all those things.. but it helped me and for 2 days now, I have done like a couple of lines a day, I dont crave more when it wears off, and there is no mucus, there is no stuffy nose...
Maybe it's just that I had a cold-flu-sinus infection and it got better.
Maybe the vitamin E is helping the nose.
Maybe the valium helps your body not want more and more....and it surely calms your racing heart..
Im not a doctor, I consider myself a prettyintelligent guy, I have a highly addictive personality, but never like this and its not worth it, its not fun anymore, I want to make it be a fun experience, without smoking 2 packs a day and being all hypochondriac -like after 10pm with the nose sprays and the tissues, and tha valium and the vitamin e and the racing hearts and the sweats, etc.
I mean I just started doing it a month and a half ago and I go through like 1 gram in 2 days...its not a lot but its not fun anymore....only for like maybe an hour of the day, then you spend anothr 6 or so fixing yourself up.
Maybe it is the coke, maybe its bad, although I dont think its that bad no one else seems to have that problem, really....Even when I microwaved it for like 35 seconds to suck up all the moisturre, my nose was ok for a day then the stuffyness/mucus came back.
Any thoughts or comments on all of this???? It would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the long ass posting, but hopefully it will help some of you.
Valium you can get from your doctor for fear of flying....just in case you might want to try and see how that works out..
There's been some dispute over the corrosive power that cocaine has on body tissue, but make no mistake, regular cocaine use WILL eventually result in corrosion of epithelial tissue and subsequent cell layers in septum, larynx, duodenum, etc.
For all of the doubters that claim it's just a matter of quality of cut, try getting some duct tape and strap 1/16 oz rock of coke under a 3/4 inch area of your skin. See how long it takes before you end up ripping the tape off your arm with a chemical burn where the coke used to be.
... or better yet, try the search engine & just see how many others have come here with this same issue.
Iíve had the same problem. The straight truth is that you canít snort any more so you might consider a different means of intake, or just quiting altogether.
Iím sorry that I dont have better news, but it doesnít get much simpler than that.
Hi everyone. I just happened to stumble across this forum and it's SO interesting how I can relate to SO much of what's being said---ie: coming down, controlling usage, music, etc. I've read posts from Nicaine, Woodman, and others, and your experiences seem so familiar that I feel like I've partied with you guys before!!
I've been a user for about 2 years now, and have found that I'm very good at controlling my usage. The one factor that does it most of the time is how crappy I feel after a big binge. I sometimes feel destroyed for 2-3 days after a binge, and after that I'm like "shit, I'm never doing that again". But as most ofyou know, as soon as you start to feel better, the urges come back.
I find my urges directly associated to alcohol. Get a couple drinks in me, and all I can THINK about is blow. I get agitated if I can't get it when I'm drinking. If I don't drink, I can usually avoid it.
One question I do have is this: Does anyone have problems with serious sinusitis after a night of blow? I just spent 2 fucking weeks getting over a sinus infection from it!! It was brutal. I just told all my friends that it was allergies, but christ, I could barely breath through my nose. Any advice on this? How to avoid it, cure it?
I think it's good to have a forum like this so we can share experiences and advice, and even warnings. I've learned alot already. What was the final verdict on ingesting blow with liquid? I have always thought about dropping a line into a shot of tequila or something and doing it that way to give my nose a break, but I'm not sure if that's dangerous.
My opinions on the whole deal is USE COMMON SENSE AND AWARENESS (like my signature says). If you see coke for what it is, just a stimulant, and recognize the fact that you're craving it because of that, and see the bigger picture, that life is SO much bigger than the line you're about to do, then you can control it I think. I can go for weeks at a time without it. Then I go for 3 weeks doing it 3 times a week, and so on. It's fun, but it has it's downside too. I can lose an EASY ten pounds in a few weeks if I binge for a while. I don't have any psycho effects yet---hallucinations, depression, anxiety, etc---however, I've had nights where I get close to my maximum and felt some pretty fucked up feelings, mostly panicky stuff though.
By the way, I'm tweeking right now, so that's why I'm talking so frickin much!!
Okay, I'll stop here, I think I've said enough for my first post. Again, I'm glad this forum is here. Up until now, I've had ZERO outlet for my feelings on this whole deal, as most of my friends are off it now, or never were on it.