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Swim has some 10x Blue Lotus Dry Extract, but doesn't want to use it with wine as most would do. He knows it can be smoked, which he has done once, without great effect, but wonders if there is a more effective way of doing so, perhaps by making tea or even just swallowing with water like he does with kratom powder say. AnySWIM have experience with this extract? He knows it also comes in resin form but has never got his hands on it.
Swim hasn't had much luck with blue lotus himself. A utfse isn't even warranted, there's a sticky thread right on top of this forum. Its sort of just... not that psychoactive on its own.
He will say it can enhance the effects of certain psychedelic drugs, and in his opinion is probably best saved for this purpose. Most of the good report's he's heard involve a wine or other alchohol infusion.
SWIM still has a couple of grams of the 10x stuff. Maybe he'll just try chasing it back with some water one day.
A poater in another thread recommended trying nuciferine isolate, which is an alkaloid contained in blue lotus. This sounds interesting to SWIM, but has heard of no-one else with experience of it.
How did SWISnowman consume his/hers?
swim has experienced it without alcohol. It was made into tea and was like 25gs gave swim a good mellow euphoria. swim liked it on its own but seems like once you do it a few times it loses its magic quick like kratom(which both i think go great with or without the wine or other alcohol. not like a jump outa your seat but it was enough when Swim did it to not be able to drive.maybe alkaloids in it are not strong against heat or goes stale easy cause swim did a bunch from other place and ended up givin it away. swim has tried MANY herbs and the only good ones to swim ink or blue lotus,kratom ,kanna,kava, and dagga .few more worked but not a desirable effect .kanna goes well with it just make sure it doesnt get in the way if ur on meds that involve seretonin at all as kanna is an SSRI.
How would SWIchukbzle recommend SWIM uses his extract? Just swallow it, or try making a tea?
Off topic, but what form of Dagga did SWIY find effective, and what was the method of consumption? SWIM's smoked it in joints with tobacco before, and once got a pleasant buzz from it, but most people tend to look down on it as a plant with psychoactive potential (a bit like Blue/Pink Lotus).
swim would say the best way swim has tried was makin a tea as it hits u harder on a pretty empty stomach sometimes if dose is good swim saw trails/tracers and light visuals closed eyed and open .swim chopped up flowers and stamens as good as possible ,heated in water and strained with a cloth. even in large doses it still gave no ill feeling at all just relaxing goodness. hope it works well. oh and it was just 25gs of the non extract form(ie 10x extracts etc..)
and for wild dagga swim just smoked the orange flowers in a joint and also when swim had the leaves he chewed it like dip and brought swim outa a panic attack. seems like a lite anxiety free MJ (no paranoia) hope this helps if swim can help anymore feel free to ask here or PM me
Trouble is SWIM wonders whether making a tea from BL extract might in some way be a waste (because the alkaloids have already been extracted). Given that standard BL can theoretically be eaten/swallowed maybe SWIM should attempt this route (as he has successfully managed with all varieties of Kratom extract). Another problem is that SWIM takes 45mg Methadone everyday which will probably dilute any opiate-like relaxation from the BL. Might go well with it however.
SWIM also has some 3 year old Wild Dagga flowers, which he should use. He's been using quite a few of the "incense" blends available (although not MJ itself) which might take away some of the novelty of a cannabis-like buzz. Are WD flowers better than the leaves and is smoking them pure (in a joint or bong) the best way?
Good to hear some positive reviews of these ethnos anyway.
yea swim guesses if its already been drained of the alkaloids that wouldnt work ,but u could still use the extract in a drink and prob easier than making the tea,or eat but if ya do drink plenty and maybe even vitamins so it hits good. swim has tried it on suboxone and it made it better and since methadone is for the same thing might make it better.highly doubt it could make it worse since theres no blocker.the best way would probably be to wait as long as u can to take the BL and methadone so that ur receptors are craving attention more.just an idea.all this talk makes swim want more BL lol.
now dagga.swim think the flowers are the only part fun to smoke because leaves arent that enjoyable because its harsh.The orange flowers are smooth,smell,and taste good.another form that worked was the 25x extract mixed with kanna (beware if on SSRIs as it can cause seretonin syndrome if you take too much kanna) but the extract swim mentioned isnt overly strong and as far as the herbal mixes ,swim hasnt had much luck even with things like Spice or in the US theres stuff called spike99 which is basically the same.they were okay,but sounds like u are gettin enough knowledge to make a better one outa things u like.and those mixes with like hops use so much filler u almost gotta extract the mix.hope some of this helped
Yeah, SWIM would like to try many of the extracts/isolates obtained from the many "relaxants", and thinks this is the way to go really, especially as he's not one for spending an hour or two making foul-tasting ethnobotanical teas.
It's a shame he'll have to try the BL while he's on methadone, but he rarely feels any intoxication from it. It still tends to cloud other drugs that SWIM takes though.
Would SWIY think that smoking BL extract could be effective? SWIM has tried it once before, but maybe he should give it another try. Would SWIY recommend trying a Dagga extract over the flowers (which he has already)?
SWIM does get a buzz from Spice/Sence etc, but would like to try more individual herbs as an alternative to these.
flowers or extract are good for the Dagga .swim wud use watever swiy has .and Spice types are ok they are just so harsh and like a unique unfamiliar almost sick feeling harsh sometimes.the mix just felt cancerous.and a lot of those things are not even tested like MJ and tobacco so it worries me plus if someone got sick and died the company can say "well it wasnt for human consumption ,it was plant food or inscence and a NEW one lol (body scrub)"
also on the comment on smoking lotus swim has heard some people say it works but theyre stories werent too beleivable.swim tried it and did nothin maybe a lil but NOT werth it at all.maybe a way higher potency would have worked but sounds like the alkaloid mix swiy mentioned would be best.