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Old 30-03-2005, 20:48
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Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

Some ppl say that there's a difference but i didnt think so...anyone care to explain?

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i believe that there both just smokeable forms but just made with different substances..but im not a crack user so iunno...
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Old 31-03-2005, 05:00
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freebase is a more pure form of crack and is made with either and othere things while crack is impure because there is alot of baking soda left in it when you cook it but i also heard if you clean it well enough you cant tell them apart
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Technically both are the same, crack has the connotation of being dirty and impure. If freebasing is done right no baking soda would be left in the product and it would be just as expensive as coke if not slightly more.
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freebase is better.... i use ammonia instead of baking soda (the italian way)
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:55
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technically there is no difference. I am quite amazed at the stupidity of the average drug user, they'll take a slang term like crack and try to create a distinction between that and the term freebase, which is what crack is. crack is freebase cocaine. coke that is no longer a hcl salt (or whatever else you want to use).
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Old 02-04-2005, 19:10
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i have to agree with moldie above both are exsactly the same people in the uk generaly use the term crack on the street but people whom are beter off will call it freebase its all the same. but there is diffirent results from how well its been washed up as to the purity of final product.
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Old 13-04-2005, 06:29
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The are the same, but normally "crack" is impure. They call it
crack because the left over impurities make a crackling sound. So
really, crack and freebase are different IMO. Crack is the word
used for the shit that is impure and freebase is the top of the line
shit. If you clean the product of all impurities then they are
esentially the same. Although crack and freebase are both
freebase cocaine, the term crack is normally used for the shit that
crackles and is impure. Why do you think it is sold on the
street, because it is so easy to make. Freebase is a little
harder and a lot more dangerous. So IMO crack and freebase are
two different things. You could not call freebase coke crack, but
I guess you could call crack freebase. Crack and freebase CAN be
the same thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean they ARE ALWAYS the
same thing.
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Old 13-04-2005, 18:36
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it is the same thing yes it makes a crack sound if it has not been washed up properly, and some inpuritys still remain where as if its done right it should just gently fizz. its generly middle class people and those beter off that use the term freebase insted of crack. and the term crack is used on the streets by homeless or common people or working girls and boys, and in the general population mostpeople think crack is a dirty nastydrug that onlycommon and homeless people use. i have gottern crack of the street that has been in your defination would be freebase clean and pure with no amonia, bicarb or any other shit. and have gotern of delers higher up the ladder so to speack and gottern crack, that makes cracking sound and tastes of amonia or bicarb. it just depends on how well the person has washed it up. even people who do it well can have off days where they miss judge what they are doing and end up with shit still in it. also freebase sounds beter to say then crack, crack head is used as a derogertoy term in the uk meening that your scum, thief, tramp ect. so its beter to say when asked that you have been freebaseing rather than doing crack. also alot of the time in the uk you can only realy be garentyed of scorering freebase/crack if you go on the streets. due to this me and friends have lernt to wash up our selfs as we dont fit into the doggie scene that goes with scorering on the streets and also dont want to put our selfs in dangerious situwations with delers and adicts that will try and rob you and carry knifes and stuff. some times we get it great with a good amount coming back and no shit. but now and then we have not managed to get all the crap out, generaly when we use amonia to wash up for speed. but i would not say one lot was one thing and one lot was another. it's all just freebase coke.
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

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technically there is no difference. I am quite amazed at the stupidity of the average drug user, they'll take a slang term like crack and try to create a distinction between that and the term freebase, which is what crack is. crack is freebase cocaine. coke that is no longer a hcl salt (or whatever else you want to use).
it is even unbelievevable the high average of people who are still thinking that there is a difference after having explained them that it is the same.

The most sadly are all the user which doesn't understand that the reason to transform the base cocain in the hydrochloride salt form is due to the fact that cocain is then water soluble which permit to be sniffed or injected.
This isn't the case anymore after having transformed the cocain back to his base form, by freebasing it with baking soda or ammonia.
All user should wash the freebase just by heating it with water which removes the hole excess of baking soda, giving a clean freebase taste or removing the ammonia trapped in the stone which is really harmfull to smoke.
Most user are scared to do that operation thinking they are gonna loose a part of their cooked freebase but they should understand that the base form of cocain isn't watersoluble and the evaporation temperature is higher enough to avoid any loss.

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Old 20-06-2016, 14:30
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

freebase and crack SHOULD be the same if you have done it correctly but the baking soda method is usually left with so many impurities that people don't take the time and the effort to get rid of that it means that there is IN REAL TERMS a difference.

Freebase is likely to leave you with less impurities. As I said, chemically - crack is freebase cocaine but due to makeshift method it end up being bad freebase cocaine. The other tek (method) of making freebase via ammonia and ether is much better and so it's about a difference in quality rather than actual difference in substance.
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

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freebase and crack SHOULD be the same if you have done it correctly but the baking soda method is usually left with so many impurities that people don't take the time and the effort to get rid of that it means that there is IN REAL TERMS a difference.

Freebase is likely to leave you with less impurities. As I said, chemically - crack is freebase cocaine but due to makeshift method it end up being bad freebase cocaine. The other tek (method) of making freebase via ammonia and ether is much better and so it's about a difference in quality rather than actual difference in substance.
the only impurity in crack..should be the baking soda

crack was designed to bring the addictive power of freebase, along with the cutting ability of cocaine, to the mass population...

...through a safe way to mass produce and cut it!
the proper production of base cocaine requires alot of patience and a bit more knowledge, than that of crack cocaine.

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Old 20-06-2016, 22:47
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

^ yes, that's what I meant. The impurities of the baking soda get left behind.

Crack has more impurities (i.e. baking soda) because it is a less efficient way to base the cocaine HCL...
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

Hi, yes the difference is crack is wack and coke aint no joke but if you already poke meth dont hold your breath you aint missin much. Good luck with everything

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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

^Guacamole - I love this. Everyone is going on and on about the difference between them and waffling on (myself included) and you just said it in one go! I couldn't agree more: crack is whack, coke is a joke, meth is the best.

Then again - harm reduction wise: they are all fricking dangerous...
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

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^ yes, that's what I meant. The impurities of the baking soda get left behind.

Crack has more impurities (i.e. baking soda) because it is a less efficient way to base the cocaine HCL...

Base = basic (alkaline, opposite of acidic) freebase means free of base. The Base would be the sodium bicarbonate aka baking soda. Unless the baking soda is whipped into the coke its freebase.. At least this is my understanding.
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Re: Differences between freebase and Crack cocaine

Freebase refers to the conjugate base form, i.e. the deprotonated form of an amine. A conjugate base is merely what is left after an acid has donated a proton in a chemical reaction. Hence, a conjugate base is a species formed by the removal of a proton from an acid.

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