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SWIM has always been curious about the process of cutting black tar. Do people warm it up and mix in a bunch of crap? Can't tell you how many odd/weird things SWIM has encountered on the bottom of his spoon after a cookup. hair, thread, gelatinous black crap, hard black crap, oily stuff, ground coffee type stuff.... etc.... and that's just the stuff SWIM has SEEN. Anything to make more out of less I guess. But really, how do they do it?
also, with the bagging up, do they warm it up and then sorta drip it into bags or do they just cut it while it's hard?
I absolutely hate the tar, but where SWIM lives in Northern Cali there is NOTHING else. I sure do miss the dope I used to get in Beantown.
SWIM seems to have this problem time and time again, SWIM has seen similar things at the bottom of the spoon after cooking, very nasty stuff sometimes, wish someone could elaborate, does not seem like much Swimmers on this forum are not from the west coast of the US
Man that sounds really fucked up, swim is really glad that they don't get that shit around here. What makes the most sense to swim about bagging it up, is that it would be hard as hell and then they cut it into blocks and then put it in the balloon or whatever, and the reason that it gets so soft would be because of it being in some swindlers mouth or pocket in the heat. As for what they cut it with, swim has heard of glass shards, coffee, lactose, mollassas, and burnt sugar.
dear god, they're trying to kill us? Shooting glass into our veins! this is outrageous, its already hard enough trying to stay alive with the addiction. SWIM really wishes he can try some stuff from the UK, SWIM hears about better quality out there... All we get is the Mexican Black Tar straight from the fucking border, and as for the info above sounds exactly right. thanks..
Dont know HOW it is cut, but I live in Minneapolis, and just last nite they had a thing on the news about how cheap and pure our mexican dope is...according to the DEA and street level buys, minneapolis has the cheapest per MG tar heroin in the country, and the purest.
Was crazy, didn't expect it one bit, cause we are sooo far away from mexico, but I guess I35 runs str8 down, so they run it str8 up here, and set up shop.
Swim is on the east coast and has never even seen tar but knows a few people in Philly who had it before out west and said that even the shit we think is crappy in Philly is still better then the tar on the west coast. Swim cant say that though has never had it and probably never will, it also seems to fuck up veins real fast.
Swim lives in Seattle and everything he gets is tar. More often then not swim won't shot as he can't imagine it being healthy(healthy, right!). So he resorts to smoking. He says sometimes it tastes very acidic, so much so it burns his mouth and throat. Other times it has a overly sweet taste, or just melts a little weird. The char it leaves varies in consistency from hard black lumps to shiny black sheets to barely anything at all.
The tough thing about tar is it ranges from VERY good to shit and swiy can't tell with any amount of insurance if it's good or bad.
The tar swim is getting right now is fuckin terrible. He bought a gram of it the other day and it was sitting in a drawer in his hotel room. It must have gotten hot or something and when swim came back to do a shot the dope had literally turned into a big pile of goo!!! Swim was very pissed. Things have never been that bad for him but swim would much rather be out on the east coast. Supposedly the dope is alot better out there. Maybe swim will buy a plane ticket!
Tar isn't supposed to be injected at all! It's tar because of poor manufacturin methods that leave plant fats, oils, and all the other shit in it. Jit's got the right idea. smoke it. If you're worried about all the cutting bullshit, smoking would be the wisest method
that looks like the type that's really soft, that's what swim gets now and it can get really melty and messy if it gets too hot like swiswinehart was saying.
it's weird though, swim used to get tar from somewhere else and it was hard as a rock and more like black crystal in places.
they were about the same, quality wise, but swim prefers the softer stuff shown above, the harder stuff she used to get would shoot off in every direction if she wasn't careful when cutting a piece off.
Jesus, what the hell is that crap? Look's like the H3 swimmers here in the UK after it's been burnt out on the foil. They sell it like that out in the US? Damn!
Well, monoacetylmorphine ( black tar heroin ) is actually known to hit faster and harder than regular diacetylmorphine. The tar is made by using vinegar to acetylize the morphine instead of using acetic acid. Meaning that uncut tar is actually quite a bit stronger than powder.
from a reliable source, tar is very potent and very clean. it's made from morphine, not opium. if it was only an acetylated opium, we wouldn't see such high potency. in swim's experience, the product is more or less the same. some hard, some soft, but all sweet and sour, and consistent. anyone who has threads, glass, or any other garbage in their dope is getting it from an unreliable, shitty source. swim has never found anything in his tar that was sketchy. sugar is just fine with swim.
i love the ignorant east coast people talking shit on something they don't understand.
the only real downside to the tar is the high presence of the catalyst, Acetic Anhydride or acetic acid in the final product, which makes it hard on the veins, throat, lungs, etc.
besides that, it's incredibly potent, clean, and has a tasty sugar based cut. what's in your white powder?
Very potent does not always equal very clean. Virtually all bootleg herion, white, tan, or tar, is contaminated with acetylated codeine. As a drug more toxic than herion, some researchers believe it is the main cause of O.D.'s.
To get a front seat at a methadone clinic, have both codeine/morphine metabolites in your urine. The knee jerk reaction is your using herion. With about a 100 alkaloids in opium, if you acetylate the whole soup, ...
from a reliable source, tar is very potent and very clean. it's made from morphine, not opium. if it was only an acetylated opium, we wouldn't see such high potency.
Eh, I'm not totally sure about this, but I'm pretty positive it's accurate enough. The difference in heroin from being tar or powder is about where it comes from. Heroin from mexico (mostly tar) is created from extracting morphine from opium, but crudely, leaving leftover gunk in there. Then it's acetated into 6MAM. This isn't quite diecetylmorphine, but the difference is negligible. Now in the middle east, they do things a little more thoroughly since they have a larger market established, and they gather the opium and extract the morphine with the end product being a powder, like the legit medicine. Then Acetic Acid is added, creating legit diecetylmorphine. So tar is simply made from impure morphine, which is pretty much opium being that morphine is the primary ingredient. As far as potency, I'm not totally sure. I've heard 6MAM is potent by some routes, and powder is more potent by the others.
Like I said my info might be a little skewed. I'd appriciate being corrected. I don't wanna be spreading false info!