Originally Posted by DustWarden
I don't think it's a matter of one being better, but it seems some people are affected differently by the different types of kratom
. A friend of mine is unaffected by anything but Bali, while another seems to experience greater effects from everything but
Bali. So it may be a matter of luck.
There is definitely a lot of variety between different accounts of Kratom experiences, and the herb does affect different people in different ways (and I need to think of a different word for "different" in different applications for the sakes of some differences here!).
The Good Knight, for what it's worth, finds Bali to be sedating and highly euphoric. However, it does have the side effect
of causing strong nausea. He needs about 12-15 grams or so to get nicely spacey, but at that does it is simply guaranteed that he'll be puking his guts out for 5 hours straight. In fact, even at a 5 gram threshold dose there is considerable nausea. That, unfortunately, makes Bali completely useless to him.
Red Vein Indo is very different. It's almost completely devoid of euphoria
. It is stimulating rather than sedating, and packs a nice case of the jitters - sort of like downing one too many cups of very strong coffee
. It still has the opioid
painkilling effect, which, for our brave knight, is worth the price of admission alone, and unlike Bali it doesn't cause much nausea.
Maeng Da has been the clear winner though, at least in his experience. It's stimulating like Red Vein Indo but without the jitters, and it is euphoric like Bali but without the nausea. It's not as strong as it's made out to be - it's about 1.5X the potency of Bali at most. However, it's cleaner, less drowsy, faster acting though also shorter lasting, and just generally all-around nicer. Of course, it's also much more expensive, but as the wise man said: "Cheap, no good! Good, no cheap!"
But then, you have a lot of SWIMs that didn't get pretty much any euphoria from Maeng Da at all and consider it a waste of money.