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I think opium will never really come close to heroin. Its main opiate is morphine and that just hits different from heroin. Although there is the combination. If you had used it before heroin maybe ...
Last edited by Smeg; 02-04-2016 at 22:58.
Reason: Full drug names rather than an abbreviations.
Opium and Heroin are definitely different, but I think Opium is SO much better. Though the feel-good effect of heroin may be stronger, there's so much going on with Opium - psychedelic dreams while you're still awake, the feeling that time, your brain, and in fact the whole world has stopped, subtle but very strange and unique hallucinations,the list goes on.
All I will say is that I smoked Opium in Thailand with the Hill Tribes, and the quality was absolutely guaranteed. I've never smoked it in the West, but I suspect the quality could be an issue, leading to disappointing experiences.
Last edited by Smeg; 02-04-2016 at 23:02.
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Heroin is a smaller opiate molecule. That means that it gets absorbed alot quicker (i think about 10 times quicker, but im not sure) by the brain. Thats what gives you that big rush, and it can't ever be topped by a different opiate because their chemical molecules are phisiclly larger, and take longer for the brain to absorb. No matter how much you take you can't get the rush, you'll just get killed.
SWIM took opium in India. It was black, and very sticky. He took it orally and tripped for about 8 hours. Although the trip experience was quite good, he was throwing up quitea lot throughout. As is typical of opiate experiences the throwing-up wasn't terribly bad but still unpleasant all the same.
Afterwards some-one told him that 'black' opium is usually impure and that the best stuff is red and won't cause so much throwing-up. Smoking was also recommended rather than eating it.
its the exact same feeling. the only difference is that heroin enters the brain quicker and easier. as I understand it its in no way smaller, in fact its got more atoms....it just has a carrier structure that better allows it access to the brain.Edited by: allyourbase
Not true. Heroin is diamorphine, which almost certainly converts to morphine on entering the brain. Opium is morphine PLUS codeine, papaverine, thebaine and a whole host of other minor psychedelics. It's those other psychedelics which makethe opium experience different from heroin.
Ive done them all....I see no difference (except with different potentiators), the only real difference Ive noted between plant latex vs say morphine sulfate is that a good dose (oral) of latex can keep me lifted for as many as 36 hours, whereas with straight morphine Im down in about 10.
Acetomorphine is 2 acetylstructures larger than the morphine molecule.
Well, if you experience no difference than that must be the case - we do all react differently to these things. Shame though 'cause for me opium is a fantastically eye-opening experience in a way that heroin can never be.